PDA

View Full Version : Commercial Smokers


Tweedle
01-18-2010, 12:48 PM
Im working on a business plan for a small takeout joint and am trying to gather info. Those of you with indoor comercial smokers what kinds do you use? does anyone know aprox pricing? Thanks a bunch guys.

Jacked UP BBQ
01-18-2010, 01:15 PM
I use a FEC 750, maybe a little too big for your take out, but you can get a 500 or 300 in the 12k area. They put out a much better product then any of the other gas or electric smokers. You can search for a used one, but they are very hard to come by. If you have anymore questions, give me a call. Thanks

smokinit
01-18-2010, 01:20 PM
Well you have Ole Hickory Southern Pride and FEC these I believe are the top three there are a few others. when I was considering it I was leaning towards the FEC you have one fuel source instead of two with the others which need wood and propane. There is a Brethren who is a FEC dealer who can hook you up if you decide that way just pm me.

Bbq Bubba
01-18-2010, 01:52 PM
I'm running a Southern Pride 300. Perfect for a carry out joint!
Set it and forget it and u control the wood flavor.

landarc
01-18-2010, 02:00 PM
I don't have a BBQ jooint, but, just about every morning I am talking with my buddy who does. We spoke often when he was starting up, he chose a Southern Pride for two reasons. First was the ease of regulation, he did not need the extensive scrubber and exhaust requirements for his 'oven' as it was not going to be putting out a lot of smoke. Second, it used very small amount of wood to get the cooking done, and he can take it out for catering, which an electric unit was going to be more problematic here in CA. He has since noted that he really appreciates the ability to set it and forget it, although he pays a pitmaster, so it is not like he ever did the cooking.

TN_BBQ
01-18-2010, 02:49 PM
Any chance you can put the smoker out back? If so, your choices will be unlimited.

Backwoods can be used inside, so long as you get the butterfly valve and run the chimney to the outside using some ducts.

Lastly, some folks build their own pits.

Rest assured, the commercial smokers are pretty pricey...several to $10's of thousands of dollars.

There's a used SOUTHERN PRIDE BMJ-1000 on Ebay for about $10,000 and a trailer mounted one for about $7K

smokinit
01-18-2010, 03:24 PM
I asked about putting my Backwoods inside no go but it can be used outside under cover and then it would allow you do bring it catering also.

bbqpitstop
01-18-2010, 05:31 PM
If you want to survive in this business AND have a life, get a used Friedrich smoker oven off ebay....Anyone that thinks the FEC cranks out better que than an electric smoker, just hasn't tried a friedrich.....how's self cleaning sound ? how's set it and forget it sound ? true convection rather than one fan blowing around air ?

Here in Buffalo we have several bbq restaurants and caterers that have either borrowed mine or bought one from me and that's after they've owned southern prides.....you don't see them around much nor do you hear a lot about them in the bbq world because the units were made as a one time contract with Winn Dixie grocery stores back in the late eighties and nineties.....other than a few bbq shows and restaurant shows that I've done with them in the last five years, they are not actively marketed due to their core business being for large smokehouses for the meat packing industry. Ask anyone that owns one, they are the best for providing absolutely foolproof consistent results as well as the juiciest bbq out there.

Tweedle
01-18-2010, 06:04 PM
Ok we are looking at the SPK-500 Souther Pride or a FEC-500 and a Ole Hickory Model SSL. ANy one use these pros/cons?

Bbq Bubba
01-18-2010, 06:19 PM
Are you going to be installing the smoker inside or on a trailer to stay mobile?

getyourrubonbbq
01-18-2010, 06:20 PM
I've been a stick burner/backwoods primarily, I've got an FEC 100 on the way I'm goin g to try out. If I' like the results then I'm going to put it and more than likely the FEC 300 in my trailer. I do like the thought of not have the expense of wood and charcoal VS just a few pounds of pellets, not to mention less ash to clean out.

I can't speak for eveyone, but the majority of those I've spoke with are running their SP & OH on gas as well. They all need electricity to rotate, but gas is their main source and the wood is for flavor.

bbqpitstop
01-18-2010, 08:36 PM
Tweedle,

Whatever you settle on be sure and check Craigslist to get a good price. There is a Southern Pride for sale on the Buffalo Craigslist under the business section just in case you want to check out that one.

Ford
01-18-2010, 08:41 PM
I've been a stick burner/backwoods primarily, I've got an FEC 100 on the way I'm goin g to try out. If I' like the results then I'm going to put it and more than likely the FEC 300 in my trailer. I do like the thought of not have the expense of wood and charcoal VS just a few pounds of pellets, not to mention less ash to clean out.

I can't speak for eveyone, but the majority of those I've spoke with are running their SP & OH on gas as well. They all need electricity to rotate, but gas is their main source and the wood is for flavor.
Drop by my new rig :biggrin: at Mobile or Little Roxk or Hammond. Apps going in tomorrow as I have a firm delivery date of 2/19. I'll show you just what you can do with FE's. Will even have one not in use for comp ir you just want to cook something.

I'd suggest the 500 over the 300 for the price difference. Not sure how well all that weight will fit on a back porch. Maybe want a side ramp trailer instead. Even know where you can see one :icon_devil

Ford
01-18-2010, 08:45 PM
Make sure if you buy used it still has that NSF and UL sticker on it and make sure you get the documentation for it. The HD Loves it. I'll bet the HD's in NH are big on documentation. Also I've seen a lot of commercial pits on the back porch because of the cost of smoke extraction. You need to ask lots of questions before buying to make sure your plan will work. Not good to have all the equipment and can't get a permit from HD or FD to open.

NorthwestBBQ
01-18-2010, 08:49 PM
In my quest for the ultimate commercial smoker it is Southern Pride (http://www.southern-pride.com/) by a mile.

chopshop
01-20-2010, 10:20 PM
cant go wrong with a fast eddy. this is a true set it and forget, not to mention a good product everytime

BigBellyBBQ
02-17-2010, 10:10 PM
Tweedle,

Whatever you settle on be sure and check Craigslist to get a good price. There is a Southern Pride for sale on the Buffalo Craigslist under the business section just in case you want to check out that one.
For indoor use, pay attention to bbqpitstop on the FE, she knows what the cookers can do!

HoDeDo
02-17-2010, 10:25 PM
PM me if you are looking for an FEC 500.... I would think if Matt's 750 is still available, that might be the way to go, though. They are so efficient, that having too much cooker isnt nearly as big an issue as having not enough.
Great cookers!

DCFIREMANN
03-04-2010, 07:55 PM
Wow just found this thread. I hope you got things worked out for buying a Southern Pride. I have 2 and love them both, both are trailer mounted and have made me a lot of money in the past. BTW I have an older BBR 79 and a newer SPK 500. Both produce an excellent product.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

getyourrubonbbq
03-07-2010, 11:05 AM
I have recently come across two used SPK-500's. I'm having them refurbished by SP and will be installing one of them on my trailer. The units will be just like brand new once finished. I'm asking $8,000 for the second one and will install the digital controls for an additional $650. Smoker is not on a trailer, but I can arrange that if needed for an additional fee.

meatpunk
06-05-2011, 10:12 AM
Can any of these cookers operate while in a moving truck? I am thinking of cooking butts and brisket overnight for a food truck operation, then putting that into Cambros in the morning and putting on ribs to be ready for lunch service. So, I would need the cooker to still be cooking or at least holding hot, while in the truck on the way to the vending location. Crazy? (Guessing that the jolting of riding around in a truck would set off an emergency shutdown on any gas/pellet/electric cooker) Also anybody use a BDS for vending? Seems like a couple of those loaded as described above would make a heck of a day's business. They are so airtight that you could plumb the intake and exhaust outside the truck and have no worries about carbon monoxide... I think. Anybody?

Big_Alvin
06-05-2011, 05:53 PM
question for those that use ole hickory pits,southern prides, fecs, friedrich or the like - i 've read they are set and forget and u do use wood for smoke, correct? do they produce a smoke ring on the meats? apologize if this is a stupid question, just curious. thanks

landarc
06-05-2011, 09:35 PM
I can only speak for Southern Prides, they use wood, logs or splits, for smoke. The unit my friend has uses gas for heat. He does get a smoke ring. It is pretty set and forget, as much as any one I have heard of.

Haltech
06-21-2011, 07:09 PM
I would not recommend a FEC-100 indoors in a joint.. They have a history of catching fire... mine did early this yearm fire dept was called out.... thats how bad it was.. Had earlier episodes before, but caught them in time. When i called CS, they even told me the 100s are for competition use... They recommend the 300,500 or 750s for retail indoor cooking, NOT a 100


We are looking at opening a joint here soon and i have settled on a FEC 300 for chicken and the southern pride 500 will take care of everything else.