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Jeff_in_KC
10-05-2009, 10:34 PM
OK so all week last week, we saw ads for the American Royal BBQ on TV and heard them on the radio. Then you get live broadcasts from the Royal with reporters hanging out with the big crowds of drunken partiers and telling everyone within range of their signal how great the Royal is. Then... NOTHING! Two teams from the farking Kansas City area win both contests and I failed to see anyone reporting that. Nothing at all against non-KC teams but come on! These huge contests that featured outstanding competition from all over the United States and beyond goes off here in town and one team from Blue Springs and another from Lee's Summit win them all and no mention of that on the local news. But boy, those parties and smells coming from the West Bottoms sure were newsworthy... :roll:

Plowboy
10-05-2009, 10:48 PM
We are working on that, Jeff.

Jeff_in_KC
10-05-2009, 10:56 PM
I would have thought they'd be onhand with their cameras rolling at the awards. I just think it would have been nice to get a chance to let all of your families and friends see you on TV Saturday and Sunday nights.

PatioDaddio
10-05-2009, 11:10 PM
I would have thought they'd be onhand with their cameras rolling at the awards. I just think it would have been nice to get a chance to let all of your families and friends see you on TV Saturday and Sunday nights.Nah! You gotta wear a t-shirt like this, or something similar, to get that kind of coverage. :-D

http://rlv.zcache.com/basic_tshirt-p235350452966295632tdq8_525.jpg

John

Just Pulin' Pork
10-05-2009, 11:31 PM
Jeff you make a great point! The sad part is the MC for the awards was Brad Stevens on the CBS affiliate http://www.kctv5.com out of Kansas City. No knock on him personally I thought he did a great job, but the network he works for is pathetic! KC media step up and support the Royal and realize you have a contest in Kansas City that is the biggest in the world!

Cabntmkr1
10-06-2009, 12:12 AM
Glad I don't live there anymore.:wink:

Scottie
10-06-2009, 07:20 AM
Just a crazy thought.... But maybe the Royal folks have burnt some bridges? Not that I could see that happening. But it is a possibility....

Ashmont
10-06-2009, 07:28 AM
I know when the STL Cardinals win their next World Series this year that news reports will go on weeks after the last pitch has been made. You Make a great point..

Podge
10-06-2009, 08:03 AM
That is B.S. !!!. what the hell ??? Local boys did great.. needs to be reported..

rweller
10-06-2009, 08:13 AM
I got back to my Hotel room in time for the 10 o clock news Saturday night and I don't know what station I was watching but the did talk about the Royal and Did Mention that Pork Pullin Plowboys was the Grand Champion of the Invitational.

They probably should have done interviews of both terams that won.

Great Job Todd, I was going to stop and say Hi and congratulations but you were pretty busy.
Great job to you also Boondoggle.

I had a list of teams I wanted to meet and didn't get to as many as I wanted. Maybe next time.

musicmanryann
10-06-2009, 08:19 AM
I know when the STL Cardinals win their next World Series this year that news reports will go on weeks after the last pitch has been made. You Make a great point..

I like the way you think!:wink:

~Ryan (a die-hard Cardinals fan)

Scottie
10-06-2009, 08:28 AM
Maybe next year.... Again for us...

I like the way you think!:wink:

~Ryan (a die-hard Cardinals fan)

Buster Dog BBQ
10-06-2009, 08:32 AM
From looking at the KC Star it seemed the site was flush with other events. Between college football with K-State at Arrowhead, the Chiefs, Nascar and dare I mention the Royals, the Royal didnt get the attention it deserved.

bigabyte
10-06-2009, 08:40 AM
At first from the thread title I was thinking this was going to be about the Chiefs (I'm so miffed), but you make a good point. I never heard anything. It was a very, very busy weekend in KC though, so it may have just got lost in all the other noise.

musicmanryann
10-06-2009, 08:54 AM
Is is perhaps that people just don't get it? What I mean is that I am wondering if people get an idea of the party side of things, but don't quite grasp what the competition is all about, and how big it is and it is getting. To a certain extent I have found that you really have to experience a bbq competition i.e. turn-ins, awards ceremony etc., to understand what it is all about and appreciate the grand-scale of the event. I have many family and friends who have been to competitions and many who have not. When I post on our website or Facebook how we did a given weekend, I always get an ethusiastic response from the family and friends who have been there, and a less than enthusiastic response if at all from those who have not. Could it be that something similar is happening from the editors and producers who decide what news they post through their media?

Scottie
10-06-2009, 09:35 AM
Or in reality guys. The fact of the matter is , we as cooks think it is bigger and more important than it really is. For the rest of the nation, it don't mean a thing. You get a lot of "Oh, that's nice." But no one outside of the freaks in the BBQ World get what it really means...

I've had a few years of experience with this and that is the reality of it all. :icon_blush:

While BBQ is huge in KC... Let's face it, it's about the party on Friday night. Do you really trhink that the masses are more turned in for the BBQ contest, NASCAR or college football? Most years, I would include the Chiefs in there, as I know that it's red Friday for the Royal.. But they stink worse than the Royals....

Just Pulin' Pork
10-06-2009, 11:35 AM
Is is perhaps that people just don't get it? What I mean is that I am wondering if people get an idea of the party side of things, but don't quite grasp what the competition is all about, and how big it is and it is getting. To a certain extent I have found that you really have to experience a bbq competition i.e. turn-ins, awards ceremony etc., to understand what it is all about and appreciate the grand-scale of the event. I have many family and friends who have been to competitions and many who have not. When I post on our website or Facebook how we did a given weekend, I always get an ethusiastic response from the family and friends who have been there, and a less than enthusiastic response if at all from those who have not. Could it be that something similar is happening from the editors and producers who decide what news they post through their media?

I think you hit the nail on the head. What kills me is there are SO MANY stories the news agencies can get from this great event. Its not only the fact that the GC and RGC from the Invitational and the Open but its the fact you have so many teams come from all over the country to compete at this great event. Why would anyone travel across the country to compete in any BBQ contest. They do it because its the American Royal.

The Royal did not become to Royal over night. They braged about how it is 30 years old this year. Why can't they help themselves and use the fact that there are so many TEAMS that come here to compete. I personally find it intersting how there are several teams from other states that qualify for the invitational, and have to reach out and ask others in the area if they have stuff they can borrow in order to compete. We are not just talking about chair and tables, we are talking about smokers, canopies etc they need just to cook. Sorry to rant and rave about this but the many of the friends and family members that came and hung out with us this weekend, when you start walking around and start telling them stories about this team and that team and how they got here and where they are from everyone could not believe it. Each team brings there own story to the Royal, and I think it would be nice if the local media would share some of these stories with rest of Kansas City. Just my 2 cents!

Jon

Exe-que-tioner
10-06-2009, 12:25 PM
Friday night during the party there were several camera crews roaming about filming bits and pieces, and maybe they were around Saturday as well, and maybe they even did a few interviews with some teams, I don't know?
We judged the Open meat contest on Sunday and the film crew was also there filming as well. A guy introduced himself (and I forget his name) as a cook with the "Big Bob Gibson" team. He explained before the judging started that he was involved with producing a documentary of the sorts with The Learning Channel (TLC). He said that the show will give a closer view and understanding so the general public can see what we all go through and what it is all about. I believe he said they have footage from 4 or 5 other contests across the country with interviews and behind the scenes footage as well. I think that is pretty cool. He said the program is scheduled to air around Dec. 4th of this year. (didn't catch the name of the program).
They had a table picked out to film the majority of the judging process beforehand. After all judges were seated they pointed out which table was the TLC table. I missed it by one. I was one table off. Oh well, had fun! Congrats again to everyone who got a call last weekend!

Plowboy
10-06-2009, 12:31 PM
Or in reality guys. The fact of the matter is , we as cooks think it is bigger and more important than it really is. For the rest of the nation, it don't mean a thing. You get a lot of "Oh, that's nice." But no one outside of the freaks in the BBQ World get what it really means...

I've had a few years of experience with this and that is the reality of it all. :icon_blush:

While BBQ is huge in KC... Let's face it, it's about the party on Friday night. Do you really trhink that the masses are more turned in for the BBQ contest, NASCAR or college football? Most years, I would include the Chiefs in there, as I know that it's red Friday for the Royal.. But they stink worse than the Royals....

Scottie speaks the truth. It is best suited for a Saturday morning fluff spot to sip your coffee to. That's what we are working on. I'm taking the lead, but am including Boondoggle once we get something with one of the four local news stations.

Solidkick
10-06-2009, 01:33 PM
I think there is a very limited group that sees what happens, knows what happens, and cares what happens.........and that is why we are family.......

Plowboy
10-06-2009, 01:51 PM
we are family.......

I got all my sistas with me! You go Sista Sledge.

daedalus
10-06-2009, 02:38 PM
Or in reality guys. The fact of the matter is , we as cooks think it is bigger and more important than it really is. For the rest of the nation, it don't mean a thing.

I agree...who here knows off of the top of their head what the biggest cake decorating competition is in the country...or who won the last national scrabble tournament(yes, there is such a thing). We think the Royal matters because we have decided that competitive bbq what we want to spend out time and money on.

Having said that, I do think it is worth at least a quick mention on the news or blurb in the paper.

The Pickled Pig
10-06-2009, 04:06 PM
A guy introduced himself (and I forget his name) as a cook with the "Big Bob Gibson" team.

Could it be Chris Lilley?

Jorge
10-06-2009, 04:07 PM
Could it be Chris Lilley?

Henceforth ye shall be known as Sherlock:-P:mrgreen:

Plowboy
10-06-2009, 04:08 PM
More people read blogs now anyway.

EDIT: I don't know if that is true. I'm just being silly.

Sawdustguy
10-06-2009, 04:28 PM
I live in a small town in eastern Long Island where if someone farts it gets in the local newspaper. When we won RGC at the Battle of the BBQ Brethren I called the local newspaper to see if they were interested in a story about a local bbq team doing well in a state championship bbq contest. They just about told me to chit in my hat and pull it over my ears. Nobody but us gives a chit about bbq unless they get some sort of free food out of it.

Dustaway
10-06-2009, 04:57 PM
I live in a small town in eastern Long Island where if someone farts it gets in the local newspaper. When we won RGC at the Battle of the BBQ Brethren I called the local newspaper to see if they were interested in a story about a local bbq team doing well in a state championship bbq contest. They just about told me to chit in my hat and pull it over my ears. Nobody but us gives a chit about bbq unless they get some sort of free food out of it.


you are right on the button

ique
10-06-2009, 05:05 PM
I dont agree. People are crazy about Top Chef, Hells Kitchen etc. Comp BBQ hasnt quite got there yet but it will. I recall Podge getting his due after the Jack with the Applebees sauce deal.

Sometimes the local media doesn't get it... but they fark up lots of stories.

It is a BIG deal to win something like the Royal, and not just in our community.

musicmanryann
10-06-2009, 05:10 PM
I dont agree. People are crazy about Top Chef, Hells Kitchen etc. Comp BBQ hasnt quite got there yet but it will. I recall Podge getting his due after the Jack with the Applebees sauce deal.

Sometimes the local media doesn't get it... but they fark up lots of stories.

It is a BIG deal to win something like the Royal, and not just in our community.

Chris I couldn't agree with you more. Well said.

Jeff_in_KC
10-06-2009, 09:34 PM
Jon mentioned all the great stories around the Royal if they just wanted to take the time to dig in and meet people. To me, those reporters who just stood there talking about the wild parties going on behind them are just that... reporters. They report what they see. Masters of the obvious. They're not journalists. They don't dig for the stories behind the stories. How many tales of survival just to get to KC are there? What about Slap Yo Daddy? Those guys who come out of nowhere to find success. Boondoggle's first GC? The handicapped girl (I'm sorry I forgot who it was) who competed in the Kids Q at the 2008 Royal. This was at the Jack, not the Royal but the story Scottie had the year he won it. Those kind of stories are all over. Freakin find them and leave the party stories alone. There's no story there.

Meat Burner
10-06-2009, 09:43 PM
Like the other folk here, I think the coverage is a real disappointment. With that being said, I AM SO PROUD OF PLOWBOY AND CAVEMAN!!!!! We understand the talent that got them there are motivated by their success. I think it is just waaaay cool what they accomplished. Congrats brethren!!!

Just Pulin' Pork
10-06-2009, 10:31 PM
Jon mentioned all the great stories around the Royal if they just wanted to take the time to dig in and meet people. To me, those reporters who just stood there talking about the wild parties going on behind them are just that... reporters. They report what they see. Masters of the obvious. They're not journalists. They don't dig for the stories behind the stories. How many tales of survival just to get to KC are there? What about Slap Yo Daddy? Those guys who come out of nowhere to find success. Boondoggle's first GC? The handicapped girl (I'm sorry I forgot who it was) who competed in the Kids Q at the 2008 Royal. This was at the Jack, not the Royal but the story Scottie had the year he won it. Those kind of stories are all over. Freakin find them and leave the party stories alone. There's no story there.

Can anyone answer this. I know that "TLC" was there filming Chris Lilly, Tuffy, and Myron Mixon and others. I also noticed they were filming "Slap Yo Daddy" Saturday morning while they were building there boxes for the Invitational. If a television station that airs nationally and produces many different types of shows is interested in getting "the big picture" of BBQ and showing it to the rest of the world, (2 months after they film it) would you not think the local press would get a clue and beat them to the punch. Film and produce something for the 6pm and 10pm news with the same types of stories? Sorry to kick a dead horse but I still shake my head. I just do not get it!

daedalus
10-06-2009, 11:03 PM
Could it be Chris Lilley?
It wasnt Chris...I was in there too, but I didnt catch the guys name either.
Here is a link to some info on the show...I am looking forward to it.
http://press.discovery.com/us/tlc/programs/bbq-pitmasters/

smknwhlswife
10-07-2009, 08:47 AM
The handicapped girl (I'm sorry I forgot who it was) who competed in the Kids Q at the 2008 Royal.

She is the granddaughter of Mad Hogs and an Englishman.

smknwhlswife
10-07-2009, 08:53 AM
You know 2 local teams didn't do too bad last year either. :wink::grin:

Don't remember hearing about it then either. Like Scottie said....most people don't really care unless they know someone involved in it. Hopefully that will change like Chris said.

The Giggler
10-07-2009, 10:14 AM
I'm certainly not on the inside circle of this, but here's what I do know.

The documentary filmaker is John Markus, who competes in the East as Central Pork West. He is an A List Writer and Producer, and has produced many successful shows, including the BBQ show on Versus a couple years back. He was at Harpoon this year filming Myron (competing with Central Pork West at Harpoon) for a Legends of BBQ Show this summer. Not sure what channel that will be aired on.

I caught his speech talking about the film crews moving around at the Invitational Judge's Meeting this weekend. He had crews filming Cool Smoke, Big Bob Gibson's, Jack's Old South, Smokin' Triggers, and Wood Chicks for sure - and there may have been more TV teams. The seats at awards for those teams were reserved on the floor near the isles so the film crews could follow them up to the stage. Following the awards ceremonies, they were interviewing the tv teams, and also top teams for both contests this past weekend.

Here's a summary of the last BBQ Show produced by John Markus and Chris Lilly.

http://www.kingfisherkookers.com/versus_10-12-06.htm

Sawdustguy
10-07-2009, 01:53 PM
I dont agree. People are crazy about Top Chef, Hells Kitchen etc. Comp BBQ hasnt quite got there yet but it will. I recall Podge getting his due after the Jack with the Applebees sauce deal.

Sometimes the local media doesn't get it... but they fark up lots of stories.

It is a BIG deal to win something like the Royal, and not just in our community.

I think it's an incredibly big deal to win the Royal. I wish I was in Todd's shoes. I just don't think the public and the media see it that way. While food shows have become more popular, I think bbq on TV has waned in recent years. I remember seeing a number of competitions on the Food TV series, Challenge. This year, I remember seeing only one, and it was a rerun of an old MIM Contest. Cake contests are the hot thing on Food TV. Even when Poobah got some teams to cook for the people at Newsday, our big local News Paper, there was a small article written and it was available only online as an extra. It never made the actual paper. I honestly don't know why we don't get more press. I guess the press doesn't see the value in what we do. Your guess is as good as mine.

Jeff_in_KC
10-07-2009, 10:27 PM
You know 2 local teams didn't do too bad last year either. :wink::grin:

Don't remember hearing about it then either. Like Scottie said....most people don't really care unless they know someone involved in it. Hopefully that will change like Chris said.

Kim, I'm sorry - you're right. I've never understood in the five years since I got my feet wet on comp BBQ at the Royal why the local media only chooses to celebrate the parties but not the real reason the contest is there. I just finally thought to post it! :lol:

Sledneck
10-07-2009, 10:34 PM
Maybe local guys winning a KC contest isnt that interesting to some. I bet if lets say a guy from the northeast or west coast won then that would seem to be big news, shocking etc :tongue:

QansasjayhawQ
10-07-2009, 10:59 PM
OK so all week last week, we saw ads for the American Royal BBQ on TV and heard them on the radio. Then you get live broadcasts from the Royal with reporters hanging out with the big crowds of drunken partiers and telling everyone within range of their signal how great the Royal is. Then... NOTHING! Two teams from the farking Kansas City area win both contests and I failed to see anyone reporting that. Nothing at all against non-KC teams but come on! These huge contests that featured outstanding competition from all over the United States and beyond goes off here in town and one team from Blue Springs and another from Lee's Summit win them all and no mention of that on the local news. But boy, those parties and smells coming from the West Bottoms sure were newsworthy... :roll:

I understand exactly what you're sayin' Jeff . . . the media coverage completely misses the point.

BUT - think of this . . . in the early days of NASCAR, what got the most news coverage? Innovative team strategies? New body work or motors or transmissions by the manufacturers to win? No. NASCAR only got coverage by the media when there was one helluva massive wreck! THAT (sensationalism) is what sells advertising for the media - and that (unfortunate as it may be) is what their viewers want to see.

Same thing here with the Royal. Flaunting the biggest, baddest party of the year that you probably aren't invited to, spread all over the news? . . . how bittersweet!

But you're right - the entire real reason for the event is lost in the glam of what coulda woulda shoulda been the viewer's ultimate party adventure . . . maybe . . . one day . . . that's the price of living where we do . . . where parties are the greatest reward.

QansasjayhawQ
10-07-2009, 11:07 PM
I'm certainly not on the inside circle of this, but here's what I do know.

The documentary filmaker is John Markus, who competes in the East as Central Pork West. He is an A List Writer and Producer, and has produced many successful shows, including the BBQ show on Versus a couple years back. He was at Harpoon this year filming Myron (competing with Central Pork West at Harpoon) for a Legends of BBQ Show this summer. Not sure what channel that will be aired on.

I caught his speech talking about the film crews moving around at the Invitational Judge's Meeting this weekend. He had crews filming Cool Smoke, Big Bob Gibson's, Jack's Old South, Smokin' Triggers, and Wood Chicks for sure - and there may have been more TV teams. The seats at awards for those teams were reserved on the floor near the isles so the film crews could follow them up to the stage. Following the awards ceremonies, they were interviewing the tv teams, and also top teams for both contests this past weekend.

Here's a summary of the last BBQ Show produced by John Markus and Chris Lilly.

http://www.kingfisherkookers.com/versus_10-12-06.htm

Wow! This sounds GREAT! Thanks for the heads up!

Sledneck
10-07-2009, 11:27 PM
No disrespect to the winners but all in all whats so exciting about a bunch of teams cooking privately in a basically private space who then bitch about the public bothering them from 12-130 when all of the "action" is going on then putting it in a white box and then walking it up to a tent?

QansasjayhawQ
10-07-2009, 11:45 PM
No disrespect to the winners but all in all whats so exciting about a bunch of teams cooking privately in a basically private space who then bitch about the public bothering them from 12-130 when all of the "action" is going on then putting it in a white box and then walking it up to a tent?

That's a great question! And one that NASCAR answered in time to make their sport accessible to the masses.

In any event where 'walking it up to a tent' OR 'turning left all the time' is the perceived norm, people need to be educated about the finer points of . . . whichever it is.

All of the financial commitment, the time and preparation and the skill required and the knowledge and experience, the desire to rise above what you and I are willing to endure . . . well, THAT is what makes ANY human competition great.

musicmanryann
10-08-2009, 08:41 AM
All of the financial commitment, the time and preparation and the skill required and the knowledge and experience, the desire to rise above what you and I are willing to endure . . . well, THAT is what makes ANY human competition great.

Hear Hear! Well said brother!

Jeff_in_KC
10-04-2010, 11:47 PM
One year later after TWO seasons of BBQ Pitmasters draws more interest to competitive barbecue... Anyone local see any coverage this year for the Royal besides weathermen giving reports and so forth? I saw the CBS Morning Show was down there Friday morning but locally, I haven't seen much mentioned. Of course, if it has, I've probably slept through it! LOL!

Icon IT Solutions
10-05-2010, 12:08 AM
We would like to respectfully point out that WiredBBQ.com is local to KC and we did cover the event extensivley with interviews with as many teams as we could. While we are not a major network, we feel that we provide a better platform for this type of event then the major networks could ever hope for. We hosted the entire weekend on our own without the advertisement or sponsorship major networks have, and we hope it was enjoyed. We hope to continue to provide this type of coverage, not just at the American Royal, but at other BBQ events around the country. If you really enjoyed it and would like to see more, please let us know...

Jeff_in_KC
10-05-2010, 12:34 AM
We would like to respectfully point out that WiredBBQ.com is local to KC and we did cover the event extensivley with interviews with as many teams as we could. While we are not a major network, we feel that we provide a better platform for this type of event then the major networks could ever hope for. We hosted the entire weekend on our own without the advertisement or sponsorship major networks have, and we hope it was enjoyed. We hope to continue to provide this type of coverage, not just at the American Royal, but at other BBQ events around the country. If you really enjoyed it and would like to see more, please let us know...

You guys absolutely did do a fantastic job! I spent about an hour on your site tonight... great stuff! I would be honored if you would consider covering our event we put on out in Pleasant Hill, MO next April. It would just be nice if the local news media would realize the magnitude of what's right in their own backyard.

dbaldin
10-05-2010, 12:59 AM
I would like to add that we had an absolute blast doing it! Everyone there treated us like we were one of the family, especially Kyle with The Slabs.com and of course The Brethren (who fed us some of the spiciest sausage and peppers I have had, and some great ziti)

Video of the event will be posted soon on WiredBBQ.com, as well as YouTube (under dbaldin, or wiredbbq), and Facebook. I've already posted the Overall Awards segment!

SmokeInDaEye
10-05-2010, 08:27 AM
They need a better PR guy. Too bad I have a full time job.

(Note WiredBBQ's feed were cool but I'm thinking about the not-so-hard to secure mainstream media).

QansasjayhawQ
10-05-2010, 08:57 AM
Well, I just want to say that I really enjoyed the coverage from WiredBBQ and Icon IT Solutions - you all did a great job of coverage and when things went wrong technically you did a great job of recovering.

I am looking forward to your next coverage - and THANK YOU for going to all that trouble to do it. It is appreciated!

KnucklHed BBQ
10-05-2010, 01:28 PM
We would like to respectfully point out that WiredBBQ.com is local to KC and we did cover the event extensivley with interviews with as many teams as we could. While we are not a major network, we feel that we provide a better platform for this type of event then the major networks could ever hope for. We hosted the entire weekend on our own without the advertisement or sponsorship major networks have, and we hope it was enjoyed. We hope to continue to provide this type of coverage, not just at the American Royal, but at other BBQ events around the country. If you really enjoyed it and would like to see more, please let us know...


It was nice to see a crew out there doing live webcast interviews and visiting with everyone they could!

Enjoyed meeting you all too and hope to see you again on the road! (we were the fella's with the open fire pits and Auspits!)

VGuilford
10-05-2010, 02:33 PM
We would like to respectfully point out that WiredBBQ.com is local to KC and we did cover the event extensivley with interviews with as many teams as we could. While we are not a major network, we feel that we provide a better platform for this type of event then the major networks could ever hope for. We hosted the entire weekend on our own without the advertisement or sponsorship major networks have, and we hope it was enjoyed. We hope to continue to provide this type of coverage, not just at the American Royal, but at other BBQ events around the country. If you really enjoyed it and would like to see more, please let us know...

Do you have archives of BBQ events?

ZILLA
10-05-2010, 02:55 PM
I agree with Jeff and Scottie.

Coz
10-05-2010, 06:56 PM
One year later after TWO seasons of BBQ Pitmasters draws more interest to competitive barbecue... Anyone local see any coverage this year for the Royal besides weathermen giving reports and so forth? I saw the CBS Morning Show was down there Friday morning but locally, I haven't seen much mentioned. Of course, if it has, I've probably slept through it! LOL!


We saw a fair amount of coverage on the local news friday before we left the hotel to go set up.