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Is It Ready Yet?
10-03-2009, 09:08 AM
Ribs have been killing us this year. We can't seem to get it right. The taste and tenderness thing has been the issue. We use St. Louis style, we rub them down and cook on the lang for 4 1/2 - 5 hrs at 225. Not looking for anyones secrets, just a solid foundation on which to start. Any suggestions?

Double D's BBQ
10-03-2009, 09:10 AM
Are you using any foil, butter, brown sugar, or honey. That's a good place to start. What kind of sauce are you using?

Ron_L
10-03-2009, 09:12 AM
As far as tenderness, are they too tender or not tender enough? Do you foil at all?

As far as taste, what kind of rub, how much, what kind of sauce?

Are you cooking for friends and family or competition?

Is It Ready Yet?
10-03-2009, 09:15 AM
We have been cooking 3 hrs unfoiled, then foil for 1 hr, then back off to finish. We have been using Blues Hog on the ribs. No butter or honey. Thanks for the tip.

Is It Ready Yet?
10-03-2009, 09:19 AM
They seem to be not tender enough. For comp we know that "fall off the bone" is not good. We used Home BBQ's rib rub at our last comp. in Grant, FL. But have been using Plowboys in the past. We coat the ribs evenly with the rub not using too much. We foil at least 1 hr.

Ron_L
10-03-2009, 09:19 AM
So are they too tender or not tender enough? The cook time doesn't sound long enough for spares unless they are small. That's about how long I do baby backs for. Since you are foiling take that opportunity to add flavor (honey, brown sugar, juice, etc.).

River City Smokehouse
10-03-2009, 09:22 AM
I think your cook temp should be a minimum of 250*F. My ribs are always better with that temp.

Squeel Appeal
10-03-2009, 09:35 AM
Ribs have been killing us this year. We can't seem to get it right. The taste and tenderness thing has been the issue. We use St. Louis style, we rub them down and cook on the lang for 4 1/2 - 5 hrs at 225. Not looking for anyones secrets, just a solid foundation on which to start. Any suggestions?

Actually we are trying the 321 method using apple juice and grape juice combined for the marinade in the foil when we wrap em , and using a finishing glaze of 2 cups bbq sauce 1 cup honey , will be doing them Sunday for a test run.

Is It Ready Yet?
10-03-2009, 09:54 AM
Actually we are trying the 321 method using apple juice and grape juice combined for the marinade in the foil when we wrap em , and using a finishing glaze of 2 cups bbq sauce 1 cup honey , will be doing them Sunday for a test run.

I guess I need to experiment with honey and brown sugar. Does anyone use a marinade for competition?

Psyco Realm
10-03-2009, 10:39 AM
I had the same problem ....its the meat ..ie the chemicals and what the animal eats.

long live jack lambert...steeler fans!

Tweedle
10-03-2009, 11:17 AM
I would tell you what we do but it would not help...unless your looking to move down a couple points lol

The_Kapn
10-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Bobby,

We used Blues Hog with some success a couple of years ago.
We love it and use it for recreational Que still.
But, not a flavor that judges down here are used to.
Results were inconsistant.
There is one major team that I know of that is using Blues Hog with good results--so go figure! :oops:

FBA judges like the ribs tender--very tender.

They like a really sweet sauce that does not overpower the meat.

Are you coming to Mulberry this weekend or Brooksville the next ???

Look me up if you are.

TIM

Jacked UP BBQ
10-06-2009, 06:25 PM
Fall off the bone is GOOD in comp, I don't care what anyone tells you. They only times we have done bad is when the ribs were cooked perfect. By the time the ribs get the to judges they will firm up and be the perfect finish

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
10-06-2009, 07:00 PM
Fall off the bone is GOOD in comp, I don't care what anyone tells you. They only times we have done bad is when the ribs were cooked perfect. By the time the ribs get the to judges they will firm up and be the perfect finish

my best rib finish I thought was over cooked, the judges didnt..go figure.

Captain Caveman
10-06-2009, 09:11 PM
I think your cook temp should be a minimum of 250*F. My ribs are always better with that temp.

I agree with River City Smokehouse, I cook them even hotter than that.

Meat Burner
10-06-2009, 09:23 PM
Bobby, you got some heavyweight advise on this post when you get Captain Ron, River City Smokehouse, OC Pig, and my MOFO neighbor Chad (Captain Caveman), throwing out some advise. I certainly perked up with their input. Good helpful folk.

Smokin Mike
10-06-2009, 09:55 PM
Fall off the bone is GOOD in comp, I don't care what anyone tells you. They only times we have done bad is when the ribs were cooked perfect. By the time the ribs get the to judges they will firm up and be the perfect finish
dang dude, I thought only I knew that!, try that at home!

Is It Ready Yet?
10-07-2009, 07:18 AM
Going to Brooksville...Will look you up.

Is It Ready Yet?
10-07-2009, 07:20 AM
Thanks everyone! I will let you know how I progress will our worst category....RIBS. Thanks for all of your input and feedback!

Fatback Joe
10-07-2009, 08:21 AM
Up the temps.

I am a 250 guy as well. You know my thoughts on Plowboy's rub already. :mrgreen: