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JD McGee
08-30-2009, 06:00 PM
I just applied for a mobile catering license and it was approved...lord have mercy...what have I just gotten myself in to?...:eek: Everyone (family and freinds) asks "when are you going to start your own business"?...well...I guess I just did.

I plan on it being a part time gig in the off season as a way for Brian (Swamprb) and I to raise some extra $ for all the summer comps...:-P

I'm just now delving in to all the legal chit involved and haven't even hit the HD page yet...:shock:

Advice is most welcome...

JD

NorthwestBBQ
08-30-2009, 06:09 PM
I just applied for a mobile catering license and it was approved...lord have mercy...what have I just gotten myself in to?...:eek: Everyone (family and freinds) asks "when are you going to start your own business"?...well...I guess I just did.

I plan on it being a part time gig in the off season as a way for Brian (Swamprb) and I to raise some extra $ for all the summer comps...:-P

I'm just now delving in to all the legal chit involved and haven't even hit the HD page yet...:shock:

Advice is most welcome...

JD

Can I have a job with your catering business?

smoke it if ya got it
08-30-2009, 06:11 PM
alright get those feet wet

big brother smoke
08-30-2009, 06:16 PM
Congrats! And so it begins http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51391

Willard
08-30-2009, 06:25 PM
Start drinking,,,,,,,,Heavily!:biggrin: It's alot of work, but does come with some rewards. Try to start out small, work your way up into the larger jobs, you don't wan't to overwhelm yourself in the begining.

Read lots, ask lots of questions, be a good friend with you HD dept.

Good luck.

C Rocke
08-30-2009, 07:00 PM
I just applied for a mobile catering license and it was approved...lord have mercy...what have I just gotten myself in to?...:eek: Everyone (family and freinds) asks "when are you going to start your own business"?...well...I guess I just did.

I plan on it being a part time gig in the off season as a way for Brian (Swamprb) and I to raise some extra $ for all the summer comps...:-P

I'm just now delving in to all the legal chit involved and haven't even hit the HD page yet...:shock:

Advice is most welcome...

JD

I say HD first, as they determine a lot of the "legal chit". Plan, stick to it, know your costs, and don't be afraid to say no.

JD McGee
08-30-2009, 09:32 PM
Can I have a job with your catering business?

Yes...you can take the pics for the website I do not have yet...:twisted:

Congrats! And so it begins http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51391

...and it's all YOUR fault...my wife took one look at your website and said "That's what I want us to do"...:roll: She forgets we do not live in California anymore...:lol::lol::lol:

I say HD first, as they determine a lot of the "legal chit". Plan, stick to it, know your costs, and don't be afraid to say no.

Noted...thanks!

Chuckwagonbbqco
08-30-2009, 11:02 PM
The best way to make a small fortune in catering is to start out with a large fortune.

The key to a successful catering business is to have a spouse with a good job

blues_n_cues
08-31-2009, 06:15 AM
The best way to make a small fortune in catering is to start out with a large fortune.

The key to a successful catering business is to have a spouse with a good job


thats what i did.:icon_blush:

JD McGee
08-31-2009, 01:27 PM
Congrats! And so it begins http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51391

Thanks for the link bro...I've got some serious homework to do! :icon_shy

smokinit
08-31-2009, 02:09 PM
Good luck bro lots of help here!!!

Bbq Bubba
08-31-2009, 02:10 PM
What do you mean by a mobile catering license?
Do you already have a mobil unit?
What did you do to get this license?
Is it just an expensive piece of paper to get you going?

:lol: :lol:

tmcmaster
09-29-2009, 02:07 AM
Congrats! And so it begins http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51391

This has been an INVALUABLE thread...

And congrats... starting mine was the best move ever (don't tell the Mrs. i said that...)

grillfella
09-29-2009, 02:22 AM
Start drinking,,,,,,,,Heavily!:biggrin: It's alot of work, but does come with some rewards. Try to start out small, work your way up into the larger jobs, you don't wan't to overwhelm yourself in the begining.

Read lots, ask lots of questions, be a good friend with you HD dept.

Good luck.

Nice Willard works for us:grin:

JD McGee
09-29-2009, 07:51 PM
What do you mean by a mobile catering license? On-site catering...
Do you already have a mobil unit? Nope...
What did you do to get this license? Just applied on line...
Is it just an expensive piece of paper to get you going?
:lol: :lol:

Is it just an expensive piece of paper to get you going? Yep...pretty much...but ya gotta have it to do things legally. It was not that much...less than 50.00 bucks. The biggest problem is finding an approved kitchen to do my prep work...:roll:...I may have a line on a local church though...keep your fingers crossed! :grin:

Garth57
09-29-2009, 08:09 PM
I just went to the local American Legion and they sounded pretty positive about letting me use their kitchen. If you join, it improves your chances I think. It has to be approved at their meeting next week though. Might want to try that out JD. Good luck.

Cabntmkr1
10-05-2009, 10:33 AM
Bump:
How are things going? Any new info to report?
Steve

JD McGee
10-06-2009, 06:37 PM
Bump:
How are things going? Any new info to report?
Steve

Not lookin' good here in Duvall. :sad: All the churches said no thanks...I'm gonna start hittin' up the local bakeries, grocery stores, and restaurants next.

JD McGee
10-06-2009, 06:38 PM
I just went to the local American Legion and they sounded pretty positive about letting me use their kitchen. If you join, it improves your chances I think. It has to be approved at their meeting next week though. Might want to try that out JD. Good luck.

Thanks bro...good idea...I'm retired Navy and a Gulf War Vet...maybe I can check out the local VFW as well...:rolleyes:

big brother smoke
10-06-2009, 06:52 PM
Not lookin' good here in Duvall. :sad: All the churches said no thanks...I'm gonna start hittin' up the local bakeries, grocery stores, and restaurants next.


Why do you need a catering license. Can you not do personal chef work in WA? :confused:

tmcmaster
10-06-2009, 08:22 PM
Not lookin' good here in Duvall. :sad: All the churches said no thanks...I'm gonna start hittin' up the local bakeries, grocery stores, and restaurants next.

See if there is a cooking school close by. Community College, etc... I am in talks with the local CC's culinary school to use thier kitchen for a nominal fee.

JD McGee
10-06-2009, 09:28 PM
Why do you need a catering license. Can you not do personal chef work in WA? :confused:

Hmmm...that's a very good question. I do not have a "catering" license though...it's a general business license from the City of Duvall. In order to do catering of any kind in King County you need an approved prep kitchen.

http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/ehs/foodsafety/FoodBusiness.aspx

http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/ehs/foodsafety/FoodBusiness/catering.aspx

Can I prepare food from my kitchen at home?


No food service can be approved in a home kitchen, unless there are two separate kitchens. A commercial kitchen must be totally separate from the kitchen used by the people who live there. An approved kitchen in a home would have to meet all of the requirements for any commercial food service. These requirements are detailed in the Food Service Plan Guide.
As an alternative to constructing your own kitchen, the catering business could be operated out of an already approved kitchen. All food preparation would take place in the approved food service. Restaurant kitchens that are not open all the time or that have extra work space could possibly be utilized. Some church, school or community center kitchens may also be acceptable. The "shared" kitchen situations are evaluated on an individual basis.

NorthwestBBQ
10-06-2009, 10:30 PM
John your house is spotless. Build a separate kitchen in the back yard. The whole catering license thing is about the government getting their hands in your pockets and controlling you. :twisted:

Dr_KY
10-07-2009, 04:59 AM
Not lookin' good here in Duvall. :sad: All the churches said no thanks...I'm gonna start hittin' up the local bakeries, grocery stores, and restaurants next.


When my HD rep asked where I was going to do prep work I told her it all happens on site just like any BBQ. She said, " I get it you buy the burgers, pork, sausages,ribs, chicken etc. from the butcher or cash and carry then season it on the grill as you cook ...right!?" I said yup thats exactly what we do. She checked of the box and went to the next part of the questioning. Now I know things are not the same over here but can you try something going that route?

The next part was transport and refigeration-
At the time I was using ice chest to transport my raw goods and that's not a problem with them, the only thing needed it a way to check and keep record of temps. I'l look and see if I stil have a PDF copy of the log sheets.


Hi Alvin

Good to meet you at the weekend.

I promised you I would send you electronic copies of the temperature log sheets I gave you. I have revised them slightly to reflect event catering. Please give them a whirl...I would be interested in feedback on the forms - good and bad!

I must stress that these forms are not a legally prescribed format ...you do not have to use them. They are offered as help only as they cover the recording of information EHO's tend to request!

The photos attached are of the sink and wash hand basin rigs that we talked about.
www.clickonstore.co.uk (http://www.clickonstore.co.uk)

Something along these lines should keep you serve you well and make life easier to boot!

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=4ffec76193&view=att&th=122c135e9ef1ece0&attid=0.1&disp=vah&zw

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=4ffec76193&view=att&th=122c135e9ef1ece0&attid=0.2&disp=vah&zw

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=4ffec76193&view=att&th=122c135e9ef1ece0&attid=0.3&disp=vah&zw




I don't mess much with coleslaw but it's easy enough to buy in if needed.

JD McGee
10-07-2009, 08:13 AM
When my HD rep asked where I was going to do prep work I told her it all happens on site just like any BBQ. She said, " I get it you buy the burgers, pork, sausages,ribs, chicken etc. from the butcher or cash and carry then season it on the grill as you cook ...right!?" I said yup thats exactly what we do. She checked of the box and went to the next part of the questioning. Now I know things are not the same over here but can you try something going that route?

The next part was transport and refigeration-
At the time I was using ice chest to transport my raw goods and that's not a problem with them, the only thing needed it a way to check and keep record of temps. I'l look and see if I stil have a PDF copy of the log sheets.




I don't mess much with coleslaw but it's easy enough to buy in if needed.

Thanks Doc...I'll give my local HD rep a call and see what he has to say.

big brother smoke
10-07-2009, 09:27 AM
Hmmm...that's a very good question. I do not have a "catering" license though...it's a general business license from the City of Duvall. In order to do catering of any kind in King County you need an approved prep kitchen.

http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/ehs/foodsafety/FoodBusiness.aspx

http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/ehs/foodsafety/FoodBusiness/catering.aspx

Can I prepare food from my kitchen at home?


No food service can be approved in a home kitchen, unless there are two separate kitchens. A commercial kitchen must be totally separate from the kitchen used by the people who live there. An approved kitchen in a home would have to meet all of the requirements for any commercial food service. These requirements are detailed in the Food Service Plan Guide.
As an alternative to constructing your own kitchen, the catering business could be operated out of an already approved kitchen. All food preparation would take place in the approved food service. Restaurant kitchens that are not open all the time or that have extra work space could possibly be utilized. Some church, school or community center kitchens may also be acceptable. The "shared" kitchen situations are evaluated on an individual basis.


That is standard language for most, I believe. When doing personal chef work, you are cooking on-site by contract for private functions. Next month when you are here, we will discuss in full detail or call me, info is on the website.

JD McGee
10-07-2009, 01:26 PM
That is standard language for most, I believe. When doing personal chef work, you are cooking on-site by contract for private functions. Next month when you are here, we will discuss in full detail or call me, info is on the website.

Cool...now you've got my gears turning in a whole different direction...thanks bro...(I think). :lol::lol::lol: We'll have a good chat next month...we're really looking forward to it! :-P

JD McGee
11-16-2009, 01:33 PM
Got a line on a prep kitchen...I've got a meet-n-greet Wednesday morning with the manager of the local VFW in Redmond (10 miles away)...wish me luck! :-P

NorthwestBBQ
11-16-2009, 03:59 PM
Luck.

big brother smoke
11-16-2009, 05:12 PM
Much luck, bro!

Smokin Mike
11-16-2009, 05:17 PM
good luck brother!

JD McGee
11-18-2009, 09:50 PM
Had a good meeting with Don at the local VFW...he is taking my request to his BOD for approval. :-P Also got a line on a future comp and possibly 25-30 catering gigs...:eek: The last guy he recommended turned out some pretty bad Q and left a bad taste in the locals mouths...his loss...our gain...me and the Swamprb don't turn out bad Q...period! :cool:

big brother smoke
11-18-2009, 10:57 PM
Nice, knock em dead, guys!

C Rocke
11-19-2009, 09:36 AM
Just do it guys!

JD McGee
11-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Got our business cards today and opened up a small business account with the local bank...holy carp...we're almost legit! :lol::lol::lol:

Bbq Bubba
11-19-2009, 09:43 PM
Got our business cards today and opened up a small business account with the local bank...holy carp...we're almost legit! :lol::lol::lol:

Tax ID #.
Insurance.
Corp. papers.

Your getting close. :biggrin:

PCDoctor_1979
11-19-2009, 11:03 PM
Tax ID #.
Insurance.
Corp. papers.

Your getting close. :biggrin:

... and once you get done with those, a standard form contract, and electronic pricing tools! Best of luck to you, I've had great fun doing catering gigs on the side by sharing kitchen space with a local bakery. In the market for a mobile over the winter, but we shall see....

JD McGee
11-20-2009, 10:29 AM
Tax ID #.
Insurance.
Corp. papers.

Your getting close. :biggrin:

... and once you get done with those, a standard form contract, and electronic pricing tools! Best of luck to you, I've had great fun doing catering gigs on the side by sharing kitchen space with a local bakery. In the market for a mobile over the winter, but we shall see....

Yep...I'm workin' on those exact things...I printed out a dozen local bbq catering menus to see what the competition is charging. Gonna call a few insurance companies to get liability quotes today. Downloaded a few catering contracts to peruse. Downloaded the catering calculator that was floating around in another thread somewhere. Good grief...good thing I don't have a day job for a while! :lol::lol::lol:

JD McGee
11-20-2009, 10:36 AM
Website advice please...

I have our website up and running....I would like your feedback on what to put in...what to leave out. Keep in mind that I am doing this myself with little to no web design experience...:roll: Any and all advice is welcome...:-P

www.southpawbbq.com (http://www.southpawbbq.com)

Thanks folks...

JD

Ford
11-20-2009, 10:59 AM
Yep...I'm workin' on those exact things...I printed out a dozen local bbq catering menus to see what the competition is charging. Gonna call a few insurance companies to get liability quotes today. Downloaded a few catering contracts to peruse. Downloaded the catering calculator that was floating around in another thread somewhere. Good grief...good thing I don't have a day job for a while! :lol::lol::lol:
Auto Owners will cover you. So will a couple of others but many agnts won't know where to look.

JD McGee
11-20-2009, 11:37 AM
Auto Owners will cover you. So will a couple of others but many agnts won't know where to look.

Just got a quote from "The Hartford"...$350.00 per year general liability (1million per occurance, 2 million total occurances)...good...bad...average? More quotes coming...including one from Mrs. JD (State Farm)...:lol::lol::lol:

big brother smoke
11-20-2009, 12:10 PM
Just got a quote from "The Hartford"...$350.00 per year general liability (1million per occurance, 2 million total occurances)...good...bad...average? More quotes coming...including one from Mrs. JD (State Farm)...:lol::lol::lol:

$350 is cheap. I doubt if you find it cheaper.

Your website after you finish will need a touch up by a pro. Mine was done by brother, SOEZZY! PM him and pay him for a day, 1/2 of work or what ever the budget allows. www.soezzy.com (http://www.soezzy.com)


I would not commit to what wood you are using on specific meats. You can say we smoke your meat using pecan, hickory, apple...

JD McGee
11-20-2009, 12:18 PM
$350 is cheap. I doubt if you find it cheaper.

Your website after you finish will need a touch up by a pro. Mine was done by brother, SOEZZY! PM him and pay him for a day, 1/2 of work or what ever the budget allows. www.soezzy.com (http://www.soezzy.com)


I would not commit to what wood you are using on specific meats. You can say we smoke your meat using pecan, hickory, apple...

Thanks Steph...I'm gonna pick your brain clean next week bro! :lol::lol::lol: And your spice cabinet lock too! :twisted:

big brother smoke
11-20-2009, 12:34 PM
Thanks Steph...I'm gonna pick your brain clean next week bro! :lol::lol::lol: And your spice cabinet lock too! :twisted:

You better get to pickin before I get to drinkin :rolleyes:

PCDoctor_1979
11-20-2009, 03:11 PM
Here's my site that I threw together with an old copy of Microsoft FrontPage that I had from a former life. It's nothing fancy, but it gets the job done.

www.sweeneysbarbecue.com

JD McGee
11-20-2009, 09:31 PM
Here's my site that I threw together with an old copy of Microsoft FrontPage that I had from a former life. It's nothing fancy, but it gets the job done.

www.sweeneysbarbecue.com (http://www.sweeneysbarbecue.com)

Thanks Brian...looks good to me! :-P I'm sure we'll get it dialed in before too long...:wink:

JD McGee
11-24-2009, 05:01 PM
Had a good meeting with Don at the local VFW...he is taking my request to his BOD for approval. :-P Also got a line on a future comp and possibly 25-30 catering gigs...:eek: The last guy he recommended turned out some pretty bad Q and left a bad taste in the locals mouths...his loss...our gain...me and the Swamprb don't turn out bad Q...period! :cool:

VFW shot me down...:sad:...back to the drawing board...:roll:

Philly-QueMaster
11-30-2009, 07:20 PM
VFW shot me down...:sad:...back to the drawing board...:roll:

Sorry to hear that the VFW shot you down. There's a guy not too far from me to got setup selling que at a VFW on Friday's and Saturdays. He actually built an outdoor brick pit in the back of their parking lot. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had success approaching VFW's and how do you approach them? What do you say to them, whats the benefits to them for allowing you to cook on their property? I'm just curious because I'd like to do something on the weekends to try and make some extra money.

Patrick

JD McGee
11-30-2009, 08:52 PM
Sorry to hear that the VFW shot you down. There's a guy not too far from me to got setup selling que at a VFW on Friday's and Saturdays. He actually built an outdoor brick pit in the back of their parking lot. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had success approaching VFW's and how do you approach them? What do you say to them, whats the benefits to them for allowing you to cook on their property? I'm just curious because I'd like to do something on the weekends to try and make some extra money.

Patrick

Thanks Patrick...I've got a line on a local Grange Hall and pub that may have a kitchen available...no worries...I'll find something. In the meantime I'll just do private gigs.

JD McGee
12-01-2009, 07:06 PM
The Grange Hall is a go @ $20.00 per hour. :biggrin: Now for the bad news...I have to pay $347.00 for the inspection...and $697.00 per year for the permit! :eek: Dayum...this catering stuff is pricey...initially...:rolleyes:

How does that compare to fees in your areas?

JD

NorthwestBBQ
12-01-2009, 07:18 PM
The Grange Hall is a go @ $20.00 per hour. :biggrin: Now for the bad news...I have to pay $347.00 for the inspection...and $697.00 per year for the permit! :eek: Dayum...this catering stuff is pricey...initially...:rolleyes:

How does that compare to fees in your areas?

JD

Peanuts...:-P

bam
12-01-2009, 07:19 PM
My family has an agreement with local bar.

Philly-QueMaster
12-02-2009, 11:24 AM
My family has an agreement with local bar.

Bam,

Your family is cooking barbecue at a local bar? Is it in Philly? Do you know what kind of arrangement they have with the bar owner? I'm interesting in doing something in Montgomery County on the weekends.

Patrick

JD McGee
12-08-2009, 11:07 AM
I should change the title of this thread to "Headache License"...:lol::lol::lol: Trying to find a catering kitchen that doesn't cost an arm and a leg is getting ridiculous. Most folks that I have talked with do not have a kitchen that is up to code and want me to pay for the certification...ain't happenin'! :icon_bugeyed Most other folks are flaky as hell...they talk a good game but don't back it up with actions.

I'm just gonna stick with the personal chef / private catering for now...if something comes together for a kitchen then I'll start doing public gigs...:cool:

SoEzzy
12-17-2009, 03:25 PM
Here's a place in Seattle 25 miles away from Duvall, they may know of somewhere closer?

Cookspace LLC

501 2nd Avenue West, Seattle, WA
(206) 283-6003‎

And here's a whole slew of them for Washington.

Battle Ground City Grill
360-666-7015
1710 SW 9th Avenue

Commercial Kitchen Rental
509-868-5774

Common Kitchen
778-386-9877
1441 Clark Dr. Vancouver, BC V5L3K9

Creative Kitchen Works LLC
425 251-6963

Farm Kitchen
360-297-6615
24309 Port Gamble Road NE Poulsbo, WA 98370

Freighthouse Square
206 920 2000
430 E 25th st #204M Tacoma WA. 98421

Joys Affordable Catering Plus
425-343-2741
4808 Glenwood Ave Everett, WA 98203

Odd Fellows Hall
360-376-5640
Odd Fellows PO Box 1286 Eastsound, WA 98245

The Culinary Cooperative
206-229-3676

The Easy Entree
360-734-5502
4163 Hannegan Rd Bellingham, WA 98226

Wellspring Gourmet Naturals
206.919.7631
P.O. Box 3614, Bellevue, WA 98009-3614

NorthwestBBQ
12-17-2009, 04:12 PM
Wow! Thanks for the great links, SoEzzy. :-D

JD McGee
12-17-2009, 05:12 PM
Thanks SoEzzy...most of those places want an arm and a leg for hourly use or a monthly contract of at least 800.00 per month. I'll plug along on my own for now...I have another plan of attack that I'm working on for next week. :cool: