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WineMaster
05-18-2009, 08:04 AM
Can someone post the New results.

Seems its gonna take time like the results of who won the Senate seat in MN.

KC_Bobby
05-18-2009, 08:38 AM
They're not up on KCBS.

BBQ_Mayor
05-18-2009, 08:51 AM
They need to call everybody and get the money back to pay me. :biggrin:

KC_Bobby
05-18-2009, 09:03 AM
Based on the other thread, it sounds like they found a scoring error. Would that be accurate or speculation?

musicmanryann
05-18-2009, 09:25 AM
Yeah, I was taling to Mark Born on Saturday night and evidently there is some sort of bug in the proprietary KCBS scoring software, where every once in awhile it will score people all zeros even if you entered everything in correctly. They are working to get it fixed. At this comp there were I think twelve teams in pork this happened to, and with the rush to get the results in so everyone could go home, they did not catch it until it was too late. Really sucks for all the people who got there names called, but now have to send their money back, but it was an honest mistake, and now it is important for KCBS to take the time to get things right. Hopefully they will also be able to find that bug in the program sooner than later so this doesn't happen again.

Happy to hear this affected you in a positive way Ray and sorry it affected you in a negative way WineSwine. I'm sorry I wasn't able to make it up to hang out. I was sicker than a dog all weekend, and we were a man down and about a mile away from everyone else. Anyway, next time...

Btw--WineSwine saw you walk for your pork and I have to say I thought your hockey jersey with your logo on it was downright baddass!! :):)

BBQ_Mayor
05-18-2009, 10:01 AM
Happy to hear this affected you in a positive way Ray and sorry it affected you in a negative way WineSwine. I'm sorry I wasn't able to make it up to hang out. I was sicker than a dog all weekend, and we were a man down and about a mile away from everyone else. Anyway, next time...

Btw--WineSwine saw you walk for your pork and I have to say I thought your hockey jersey with your logo on it was downright baddass!! :):)

I'm just joking with ya all. I hope it affected me in a positive way but I'm not holding my breath.
Wine Master still would be walking, just one walk earlier.

Smokin' Joe
05-18-2009, 11:08 AM
Grand Champion: Iowa's Smokey D's
Reserve Champion: A Boy and His BBQ

Overall:
1 Iowa's Smokey D's
2 A Boy and His BBQ
3 The Heat Is On
4 4 Mile Smokin' Crew
5 Bavarian BBQ Boys
6 Bunsen Burners
7 Buster Dog BBQ
8 Big T'z Q Cru
9 Big Daddy's BBQ
10 Full Frontal BBQ
11 Parrothead Smokers
12 Rock River BBQ
13 Prairie Oak Smokers
14 Smokehouse 72
15 Spitfire
16 Rollin Smoke BBQ
17 Tippy Canoe BBQ Crew
18 Iowa Outlaws BBQ
19 Lynch BBQ Company
20 Southland Park BBQ
21 Big Bubba's Roadhouse BB
22 Pork County BBQ
23 Big Time BBQ Buddies
24 Liquor Butt
25 Monkey's Uncles BBQ
26 Shiggin & Grinnin
27 Big Al's Grill Team
28 Subtle Smoke
29 Double D""
30 Hog-N-the Road Authentic
31 Wine and Swine BBQ
32 Ponderosa BBQ
33 Nothing Butt Smoke
34 The Other Outdoor Store
35 The Regulators
36 Freeman Brothers BBQ
37 Doghouse BBQ
38 Cedar Rapids Big Dog
39 Bone Hill BBQ
40 Fire for Effect BBQ
41 Smokin' Moose BBQ Team
42 Quiet Riot
43 Daddio of the Patio
44 Piggy Blues Crew
45 Lermon BBQ
46 Stone Blue BBQ
47 Farm Boy
48 We Be Porken
49 Smok'n Buddies
50 We're Smokin Now
51 Fire Fightin Cookin Crew
52 Grumpy Old Farts BBQ
53 If You've Got-EM Smoke-E
54 Pork N Pirates
55 Capt'n Dano's BBQ
56 Token BBQ
57 Rebel Fire Que 'N Compan
58 Cooks Bay BBQ
59 Roscoe's
60 Aesop's Table Porkers PT
61 The Bones Brothers
62 2 Pigs BBQ
63 Myassis Smokin
64 Z's Smokin Bones
65 Mark's Big Boy Barbeque
66 Big Booty BBQ
67 Pikeman BBQ
68 Danson Hogs
69 marvelous mark's bbq co
70 Buddies BBQ


Chicken:
1 The Heat Is On
2 4 Mile Smokin' Crew
3 Prairie Oak Smokers
4 Pork County BBQ
5 Big T'z Q Cru
6 Bunsen Burners
7 Tippy Canoe BBQ Crew
8 Iowa Outlaws BBQ
9 Spitfire
10 A Boy and His BBQ
11 Full Frontal BBQ
12 Pikeman BBQ
13 Rock River BBQ
14 Lynch BBQ Company
15 Subtle Smoke
16 The Other Outdoor Store
17 Smokin' Moose BBQ Team
18 Buster Dog BBQ
19 Iowa's Smokey D's
20 Grumpy Old Farts BBQ
21 Big Time BBQ Buddies
22 Parrothead Smokers
23 Smokehouse 72
24 Big Al's Grill Team
25 Stone Blue BBQ
26 Big Bubba's Roadhouse BB
27 Ponderosa BBQ
28 Pork N Pirates
29 Quiet Riot
30 Hog-N-the Road Authentic
31 Farm Boy
32 Mark's Big Boy Barbeque
33 The Regulators
34 Rollin Smoke BBQ
35 Shiggin & Grinnin
36 Nothing Butt Smoke
37 Daddio of the Patio
38 Capt'n Dano's BBQ
39 Freeman Brothers BBQ
40 Wine and Swine BBQ
41 We Be Porken
42 Bavarian BBQ Boys
43 Doghouse BBQ
44 Liquor Butt
45 Cedar Rapids Big Dog
46 Big Booty BBQ
47 Double D""
48 Bone Hill BBQ
49 Roscoe's
50 Token BBQ
51 Big Daddy's BBQ
52 Buddies BBQ
53 Danson Hogs
54 Lermon BBQ
55 Southland Park BBQ
56 Myassis Smokin
57 We're Smokin Now
58 Monkey's Uncles BBQ
59 Aesop's Table Porkers PT
60 The Bones Brothers
61 Cooks Bay BBQ
62 Z's Smokin Bones
63 2 Pigs BBQ
64 Fire for Effect BBQ
65 Piggy Blues Crew
66 If You've Got-EM Smoke-E
67 Rebel Fire Que 'N Compan
68 Fire Fightin Cookin Crew
69 Smok'n Buddies
70 marvelous mark's bbq co


Ribs:
1 Southland Park BBQ
2 Bavarian BBQ Boys
3 A Boy and His BBQ
4 Iowa's Smokey D's
5 Big Daddy's BBQ
6 Rollin Smoke BBQ
7 Smokehouse 72
8 Buster Dog BBQ
9 The Other Outdoor Store
10 Bunsen Burners
11 Spitfire
12 Monkey's Uncles BBQ
13 Doghouse BBQ
14 Full Frontal BBQ
15 Shiggin & Grinnin
16 Iowa Outlaws BBQ
17 Liquor Butt
18 Pork N Pirates
19 Fire Fightin Cookin Crew
20 Big Al's Grill Team
21 Prairie Oak Smokers
22 4 Mile Smokin' Crew
23 Parrothead Smokers
24 Bone Hill BBQ
25 Daddio of the Patio
26 Subtle Smoke
27 Smok'n Buddies
28 Piggy Blues Crew
29 Nothing Butt Smoke
30 Big Bubba's Roadhouse BB
31 Token BBQ
32 Big T'z Q Cru
33 Smokin' Moose BBQ Team
34 If You've Got-EM Smoke-E
35 The Heat Is On
36 Fire for Effect BBQ
37 Lynch BBQ Company
38 We Be Porken
39 Capt'n Dano's BBQ
40 Roscoe's
41 Quiet Riot
42 Rock River BBQ
43 Cooks Bay BBQ
44 Tippy Canoe BBQ Crew
45 Big Time BBQ Buddies
46 Hog-N-the Road Authentic
47 Rebel Fire Que 'N Compan
48 Cedar Rapids Big Dog
49 Ponderosa BBQ
50 Double D""
51 Freeman Brothers BBQ
52 Big Booty BBQ
53 Wine and Swine BBQ
54 Aesop's Table Porkers PT
55 The Bones Brothers
56 The Regulators
57 Pork County BBQ
58 Myassis Smokin
59 Stone Blue BBQ
60 Grumpy Old Farts BBQ
61 Lermon BBQ
62 We're Smokin Now
63 Mark's Big Boy Barbeque
64 Farm Boy
65 Pikeman BBQ
66 marvelous mark's bbq co
67 2 Pigs BBQ
68 Buddies BBQ
69 Danson Hogs
70 Z's Smokin Bones


Pork:
1 The Heat Is On
2 Buster Dog BBQ
3 Iowa's Smokey D's
4 Lermon BBQ
5 Big Daddy's BBQ
6 Cedar Rapids Big Dog
7 Wine and Swine BBQ
8 Subtle Smoke
9 Farm Boy
10 Full Frontal BBQ
11 4 Mile Smokin' Crew
12 Bunsen Burners
13 Nothing Butt Smoke
14 Double D""
15 Fire for Effect BBQ
16 Rollin Smoke BBQ
17 Bavarian BBQ Boys
18 A Boy and His BBQ
19 Pork County BBQ
20 Smok'n Buddies
21 Prairie Oak Smokers
22 Big Al's Grill Team
23 Big Bubba's Roadhouse BB
24 Freeman Brothers BBQ
25 Parrothead Smokers
26 If You've Got-EM Smoke-E
27 We're Smokin Now
28 Big Time BBQ Buddies
29 Lynch BBQ Company
30 Rebel Fire Que 'N Compan
31 Rock River BBQ
32 Doghouse BBQ
33 Grumpy Old Farts BBQ
34 Monkey's Uncles BBQ
35 Liquor Butt
36 Smokehouse 72
37 Quiet Riot
38 Big T'z Q Cru
39 Hog-N-the Road Authentic
40 Iowa Outlaws BBQ
41 Shiggin & Grinnin
42 Bone Hill BBQ
43 Piggy Blues Crew
44 marvelous mark's bbq co
45 Daddio of the Patio
46 Stone Blue BBQ
47 Tippy Canoe BBQ Crew
48 Southland Park BBQ
49 The Regulators
50 Spitfire
51 Z's Smokin Bones
52 Token BBQ
53 Capt'n Dano's BBQ
54 Ponderosa BBQ
55 Fire Fightin Cookin Crew
56 Smokin' Moose BBQ Team
57 2 Pigs BBQ
58 Cooks Bay BBQ
59 Roscoe's
60 Myassis Smokin
61 The Other Outdoor Store
62 We Be Porken
63 Mark's Big Boy Barbeque
64 Aesop's Table Porkers PT
65 Big Booty BBQ
66 Danson Hogs
67 Pork N Pirates
68 Buddies BBQ
69 Pikeman BBQ
70 The Bones Brothers


Brisket:
1 Iowa's Smokey D's
2 Big T'z Q Cru
3 Rock River BBQ
4 Bavarian BBQ Boys
5 The Regulators
6 Ponderosa BBQ
7 A Boy and His BBQ
8 Monkey's Uncles BBQ
9 Tippy Canoe BBQ Crew
10 Big Daddy's BBQ
11 Parrothead Smokers
12 Double D""
13 Southland Park BBQ
14 Liquor Butt
15 4 Mile Smokin' Crew
16 Hog-N-the Road Authentic
17 Shiggin & Grinnin
18 Spitfire
19 Smokehouse 72
20 Big Time BBQ Buddies
21 Lynch BBQ Company
22 Big Bubba's Roadhouse BB
23 Piggy Blues Crew
24 Bunsen Burners
25 We're Smokin Now
26 The Heat Is On
27 Pork County BBQ
28 Fire for Effect BBQ
29 Freeman Brothers BBQ
30 Iowa Outlaws BBQ
31 Wine and Swine BBQ
32 Fire Fightin Cookin Crew
33 Bone Hill BBQ
34 Rollin Smoke BBQ
35 Full Frontal BBQ
36 We Be Porken
37 Z's Smokin Bones
38 Danson Hogs
39 Stone Blue BBQ
40 Prairie Oak Smokers
41 Buster Dog BBQ
42 Big Al's Grill Team
43 2 Pigs BBQ
44 Quiet Riot
45 The Bones Brothers
46 Daddio of the Patio
47 Nothing Butt Smoke
48 Smokin' Moose BBQ Team
49 Lermon BBQ
50 Smok'n Buddies
51 The Other Outdoor Store
52 Cedar Rapids Big Dog
53 Cooks Bay BBQ
54 Doghouse BBQ
55 Aesop's Table Porkers PT
56 Farm Boy
57 Capt'n Dano's BBQ
58 Token BBQ
59 Pork N Pirates
60 If You've Got-EM Smoke-E
61 Rebel Fire Que 'N Compan
62 Subtle Smoke
63 Grumpy Old Farts BBQ
64 Roscoe's
65 Myassis Smokin
66 Mark's Big Boy Barbeque
67 Pikeman BBQ
68 marvelous mark's bbq co
69 Big Booty BBQ
70 Buddies BBQ

Smokin' Joe
05-18-2009, 11:10 AM
I no longer hate Chicken, but I now hate ribs even more:lol:

Merl
05-18-2009, 11:25 AM
I am sorry to hear of the problems at MN in May. From the preliminary reports it appear to be simple human error. The software has been used at over 1000 contests. We have found that each time there is a situation it was as a result of all us being human and under a time constraint to get results done timely. The program has the ability to identify such errors as the errors which appear to have occurred at this contest.

In addition, KCBS does have a audit policy and this contest will be sent to Linda for verification.

It is great to have members who understand we can all make a mistake. We appreciate the support of the contest as well as KCBS.

Our cooks are the best in the land.
Yours in Q
Merl Whitebook

Buster Dog BBQ
05-18-2009, 11:26 AM
I am waiting to hear an official explaination from Perry, BUT from my score sheet, even if the Heat is On got a perfect 36 on their entry that was listed as 0, I still come out .5716 or something like that ahead of them in pork assuming my scores are all correct. I guess until they can tell me my scores and Mark's scores then we have to take their word, but I personally want to know what the scores were, then I will be satisfied.

musicmanryann
05-18-2009, 11:40 AM
Congrats on the fine showing Buster Dog! In addition congrats to all the other brethren who walked!

musicmanryann
05-18-2009, 11:42 AM
I am waiting to hear an official explaination from Perry, BUT from my score sheet, even if the Heat is On got a perfect 36 on their entry that was listed as 0, I still come out .5716 or something like that ahead of them in pork assuming my scores are all correct. I guess until they can tell me my scores and Mark's scores then we have to take their word, but I personally want to know what the scores were, then I will be satisfied.

I think I heard him say that if things got fixed he would move up to second place, but I guess that was wrong...

The Turk
05-18-2009, 02:12 PM
Hey Buster Dog - my math comes up the same as yours. You should contact the KCBS and get an answer either way. Turk - Bavarian BBQ Boys

Buster Dog BBQ
05-18-2009, 02:28 PM
Hey Buster Dog - my math comes up the same as yours. You should contact the KCBS and get an answer either way. Turk - Bavarian BBQ Boys
Thanks Turk. I will do that. Was hoping to stop by and meet up with you and a lot of othr people but the weather had me pretty much confined to my spot.

WineMaster
05-18-2009, 02:35 PM
To everyone that helped me- Gave me advice & Encouragement I thank you. It was a great experience and we had fun. The wife and everyone said they want to go again.
Got a little lucky in the one category that I disliked the most, Congrats to all the others.

Dan

Shotgun
05-18-2009, 05:14 PM
To everyone that helped me- Gave me advice & Encouragement I thank you. It was a great experience and we had fun. The wife and everyone said they want to go again.
Got a little lucky in the one category that I disliked the most, Congrats to all the others.

Dan
Great to meet you Dan, and all the other brothers. Sorry for your score in chicken and I still say your sauce is good enough to run with the big dogs.

FatBoyz
05-19-2009, 05:02 PM
i think it sucks that thay call you at home and say send back your check we farked up! and i think there perfict scoring is bull chit! ok my rant is over

KC_Bobby
05-19-2009, 10:02 PM
Rod, what's the word?

Buster Dog BBQ
05-20-2009, 07:08 AM
Rod, what's the word?
Yesterday the organizer emailed out a copy of the corrected pork and overall score sheets. It did show that the Heat Is On moved into first place pork so congratulations to Mark.

The strange thing though, is the glitch appeared to be putting 0's in for judge 6. However, it appears the glitch was more than that as my score fell by more then 2 points overall and more than one judge score was impacted.

So, based on Turk's suggestion above, I contacted KCBS and they are looking into what the problem was and what is correct. I had called and emailed the contest organizer for more details and still am waiting for a response. So at this point I will just wait to see what KCBS does.

I had alreeady deposited my check on the way home so I didnt lose it, so if I did finish second I will just send the difference.

This contest has the setup for a lot of nice things but they have some major damage control to take care of.

WineMaster
05-20-2009, 09:17 AM
My problem with the whole thing is that you have Merl saying its a Human Error and then we get Perry's description Saying " Thankfully it wasn't a HUMAN Error and it WAS a computer error????????? Come on. It didnt impact me very much, I still got a call out of it. But Buster Dog, wow.

Merl
05-20-2009, 09:35 AM
When our program sends a data entry error report there are usually two issues. From the report provided, it appears only one data entry error was fixed. When the office receives the score cards, the entire contest will be audited and a report to all competitors will be sent out. Please be patient. This will take a few days for mail and data entry. I will contact you when we have examined the entire contest.
Merl

FatBoyz
05-20-2009, 05:49 PM
hay why dontg we just start flippin coins to see who wins ... or maybee the kcbs should stop wasting money on that stupid trailer and sink it into there new scoring program!!! hay i have an idea why not finaly let the members have a real vote? oh what am i thinking just because you pay to be a member does not meen you get to be heard.... stupid me