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jeffostroff
04-07-2009, 12:21 AM
I saw the thread of photos of what not to turn in (very funny some of them), now I want to find a thread of photos of turn in boxes that were actually winners, or highy placed.

I tried the advance search, but system will not allow me to advance search. I tried the simpler Google search at the bottom of the pages, but the threads that mention an online album here on the brethren forums, those links don't work.

Even looking at some of the alleged what not to do photos, there are some which I can't tell what's wrong, never having attended a competition, but most of them are obvious even to my untrained eye.

But I'd like to see some good photos of what turn in box arrangements did work, with commentary of why it worked.

BBQ Grail
04-07-2009, 12:37 AM
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showpost.php?p=764670&postcount=26

jeffostroff
04-07-2009, 02:16 AM
yes, that was a good link. If anyone else spots any other good photos especially of ribs that placed high, please post here.

I have seen photos of ribs in the turn in box where the 6 ribs are separated into a chunck of 4 ribs witn the remaining 2 ribs positioned above and below the group of 4 ribs.

Is that recommended, or is it better to keep the 6 ribs all in one continuous section?

Also, does it matter if you lay the strip of ribs diagonal across the box, should it go straight across?

TexEx
04-07-2009, 06:25 AM
If you are thinking about competing in an FBA event you better read the cook team rules first. Most of the boxes you are looking at now would be DQ'd at an FBA contest. Granted they are good looking boxes but are not valid for FBA. The biggest difference between FBA and KCBS boxes is that FBA boxes have NO GARNISH. Nothing allowed in the box but the meat. No toothpicks, no foil, no garnish, no cups of sauce, etc.... After all It is a meat contest.

Also there needs to be a minimum of 8 portions not 6. Turn-in times are 1 hour apart. Good product will always do well in either organization.
If you are serious about competing in an FBA contest I would advise you to join the FBA and signup for a judges seminar. You will get a lot of good info as to what a box should or should not look like.

Ray

jeffostroff
04-07-2009, 08:55 AM
Hey thanks for watching my six Ray! Just don't stare at it (LOL!). I just might look into that judges trianing. I personally neve runderstood why KSBS requires garnish, or why placement in the box means anything. What if the table captain shifts the box while delivering it to the judge? Then your screwed!

I think it should only be judged on the meat and nothing else. How about a blue toothpick pierced through 3 or 4 pastel colored dinner mints, and all that stuck right on top of your rack of ribs. Now that's a presentation!

Jeff_in_KC
04-07-2009, 09:18 AM
If you're looking for threads on the pros and cons of garnish, there are multiple threads beating that horse to death. No need for more.

thillin
04-07-2009, 12:10 PM
[quote=jeffostroff;896120]... or why placement in the box means anything. What if the table captain shifts the box while delivering it to the judge? Then your screwed![quote]

IBCA you have to have your brisket slices and ribs must match with the box hinge with not sauce puddles. But they check that at turn in, not the table.

Here's my last comp brisket and ribs.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59205

CivilWarBBQ
04-07-2009, 12:15 PM
I personally neve runderstood why KSBS requires garnish, or why placement in the box means anything.

KCBS doesn't require garnish. You really should start by reading the published rules of the sanctioning organization handling the contest you've chosen to enter.

swamprb
04-08-2009, 01:53 AM
I've learned alot by just by viewing a lot of Brethren's team links, blogs etc. Another time consumer is to go to regional BBQ Associations that have team links and check out their sites. I know I've asked the same question before, as have others and the winners have worked hard and invested a ton of time and cash to give up the goods and I don't blame them. I can get decent Appearance scores and will ask for critiques and something a Brethren might point out that I missed or could have done is a good slap to the forehead, and helps me the next time.

big brother smoke
04-08-2009, 05:55 PM
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51099

Smokin Mike
04-08-2009, 09:23 PM
another place to see boxes is at pauls site,,, pickled pig in the forums section,,, he does not mind showing winning boxes (beats the hell out of me why he does it)

google pickled pig,,, great site, look around

Kosmo's Q
04-08-2009, 09:53 PM
KCBS doesn't require garnish. You really should start by reading the published rules of the sanctioning organization handling the contest you've chosen to enter.

Try it I dare you! You will be 1st place donator. KCBS rules should read. No garnished required (if you mind be dead last)!

Balls Casten
04-09-2009, 07:39 AM
I've learned alot by just by viewing a lot of Brethren's team links, blogs etc. Another time consumer is to go to regional BBQ Associations that have team links and check out their sites. I know I've asked the same question before, as have others and the winners have worked hard and invested a ton of time and cash to give up the goods and I don't blame them. I can get decent Appearance scores and will ask for critiques and something a Brethren might point out that I missed or could have done is a good slap to the forehead, and helps me the next time.

I agree, make up a practice box, post the pic here then ask for critiques. You're going to be a lot better off if you put in the time and learn how to cook and garnish. Than just learning how XYZ team does it.