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CajunSmoker
03-30-2009, 01:07 PM
If you ever wondered how important it is to nail your appearance points it came home to us this weekend in Hammond. One judge gave us an 8 in appearance.

Our 2nd place ribs scored 172.0000
1st place ribs scored 172.0004

It'll make you pull your hair out if you think about it too long:biggrin:

HeSmellsLikeSmoke
03-30-2009, 01:15 PM
If it was KCBS the lowest score is thrown out isn't it?

KC_Bobby
03-30-2009, 01:20 PM
Lowest judge score is thrown out. The 172.0000 would be the adjusted score out of a perfect 180.0000.

Alexa RnQ
03-30-2009, 01:24 PM
That's one hell of a rib score!

We've lost a numerical tie to all four decimal places, and landed out of the money instead of RGC. On the other hand, we've GC'd by as little as half a point.

You can't think about it too much, it's just part of the crazy way the numbers shake out sometimes -- every table is a roll of the dice.

CajunSmoker
03-30-2009, 01:32 PM
If it was KCBS the lowest score is thrown out isn't it?


It was the lowest score left after the other lowest score was thrown out. If that makes any sense:icon_blush: and I didn't mean to whine or anything, I was just stressing how important a point can be.

Merl
03-30-2009, 01:32 PM
American Royal two years ago.
Grand and RGC decided by .0008
And that is one big check!

Merl

U2CANQUE
03-30-2009, 08:39 PM
last year, Madison, IN, GC, RCG, and third, sick how close.....

tonto1117
03-30-2009, 09:25 PM
Rodger...all I can say is: it's EPIC....:-P:lol::lol::lol:

It was so great to finally meet you. Huge congrats on your 2nd place rib call.....way to go:-D

theresa and walt

The Pickled Pig
03-30-2009, 09:26 PM
The 172.0000 would be the adjusted score out of a perfect 180.0000.


?...36 points possible from every judge...5 judges x 36 points equals perfect 180.

KC_Bobby
03-30-2009, 11:31 PM
Right! Maybe adjusted wasn't the right word. 172 would be the score using the top 5 scores

Plowboy
03-31-2009, 12:39 AM
American Royal two years ago.
Grand and RGC decided by .0008
And that is one big check!

Merl

Ask Andy about missing GC at the AMR 2008 by a half point overall.

ModelMaker
03-31-2009, 10:50 AM
In Mike Lakes judging class a couple weeks ago he mentioned (while trying to impress on the new judges) how important it is to give full attention to their duty, that he had lost a $5000 payout due to being behind by 1/10,000 of a point.
I wouldn't have wanted to be in the trailer with Theresa after awards........
ModelMaker

rbinms33
03-31-2009, 12:36 PM
Our 2nd place ribs scored 172.0000
1st place ribs scored 172.0004

It'll make you pull your hair out if you think about it too long:biggrin:

Dangggggggggg....that is close. That's ok though.....Lula is right around the corner :wink:. Looking forward to seeing ya'll again!

Podge
03-31-2009, 01:07 PM
last year, Madison, IN, GC, RCG, and third, sick how close.....

yes, and i still have nightmares over that one !!:oops: I was .0008 from first and .0006 from second. There's some people on this forum that think appearance isn't that important... for those of you who think that way, please keep doing so.

U2CANQUE
03-31-2009, 01:17 PM
yeah, that was a very close one....after the elation of rgc, the ugh of wow, that was really close to gc.....
and...for those of you who think that way, please keep doing so. I second that motion....:cool:

CaptTable
03-31-2009, 01:36 PM
Dang, Podge, that margin was thinner than the hair on a lot of heads in Madison!!!!! And that's saying a lot!!!:eek:

Look forward to seeing you. Been a long winter. Kathy & I will be making our "Northern trek" before long and hope to see you at some of the stops!

Phillip

Podge
03-31-2009, 02:26 PM
Dang, Podge, that margin was thinner than the hair on a lot of heads in Madison!!!!! And that's saying a lot!!!:eek:

Look forward to seeing you. Been a long winter. Kathy & I will be making our "Northern trek" before long and hope to see you at some of the stops!

Phillip

you'll see me in jeffersonville, in. and kettering for sure !

Bones
03-31-2009, 09:08 PM
I wound up in a tie and lost the coin toss. That would have been my 1st 1st place in a category. The guy that won the coin toss stated it was the first coin toss he had won. I wont menthion who he is but will probably read this. That sucks but not as bad as grand and RSG.

HBMTN
03-31-2009, 09:36 PM
I like to take my score sheets and then put all 9's for appearance ( as if I actually got all 9's) and calculate it to see how far up the ladder it moves me.

Tim H
03-31-2009, 10:00 PM
Yes, a low score on Appearance will affect your total score under the KCBS system.

Low scores on Taste and Texture however have a much greater impact on total score due to the current weighting system... why put so much emphasis on Appearance? Given the choice of receiving a 9 on Appearance and an 8 on Taste versus an 8 on Appearance and 9 on Taste, I'll take the second option every time. I choose to focus on making it Taste good over making it Look good (not always succesfully however!)

Podge
04-01-2009, 08:12 AM
Yes, a low score on Appearance will affect your total score under the KCBS system.

Low scores on Taste and Texture however have a much greater impact on total score due to the current weighting system... why put so much emphasis on Appearance? Given the choice of receiving a 9 on Appearance and an 8 on Taste versus an 8 on Appearance and 9 on Taste, I'll take the second option every time. I choose to focus on making it Taste good over making it Look good (not always succesfully however!)

i would agree, BUT you can make something look better in the box, but you can't change what the texture is and there is very little you can do to affect the taste at the end. Appearace is a much easier point to get. You don't always get that second option !!.. I remember i screwed up chicken really bad in a contest last year, and i took extra time to make sure those damn things looked perfect in the box.. Got 2nd with it... never, ever, underestimate the power of appearance. You've got to have great appearance skills as your ace in the hole, incase you screwed up something else.

HoDeDo
04-01-2009, 08:57 AM
Ask Andy about missing GC at the AMR 2008 by a half point overall.

I wasn't gonna go there :) But hey, always the bridesmaid, never the bride. :razz: RGC was pretty darn sweet... but ohhhh that 1/2 point.:rolleyes:

oceanpigassassins
04-01-2009, 09:51 AM
It is tough to lose buy the low of a difference. Like always it's a crap shoot and someone is going to win. For the most part everyones foods good it just depends on the judges prefernce

Tarheel
04-01-2009, 03:29 PM
I have lost it by a hair and won it by a hair. Even had the same score and won it on the tie breaker. Don't think about it and it won't hurt.
Roy