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Bentley
03-29-2009, 07:01 PM
pro⋅fes⋅sion⋅al 
–adjective 1.following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder. 2.of, pertaining to, or connected with a profession: professional studies. 3.appropriate to a profession: professional objectivity. 4.engaged in one of the learned professions: A lawyer is a professional person. 5.following as a business an occupation ordinarily engaged in as a pastime: a professional golfer. 6.making a business or constant practice of something not properly to be regarded as a business: “A salesman,” he said, “is a professional optimist.” 7.undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. 8.of or for a professional person or his or her place of business or work: a professional apartment; professional equipment. 9.done by a professional; expert: professional car repairs.


When you compete in a BBQ competition, do you consider yourself a BBQ professional?


Are you just a competitor, a hobbist, a professional...one, some or all?

Just Pulin' Pork
03-29-2009, 07:04 PM
Competitor!

rbsnwngs
03-29-2009, 07:06 PM
same here Competitor

Jacked UP BBQ
03-29-2009, 07:55 PM
A drunk competitor

Big George's BBQ
03-29-2009, 07:58 PM
I view my team as competitors

HeSmellsLikeSmoke
03-29-2009, 08:01 PM
How many teams make their livelihood from competing? Those few might be considered professionals.

Bentley
03-29-2009, 08:05 PM
Yea, 9 was the only one that I thought might apply. I figured if you competed for money you were considered a professional, but I guess this aint the Olympics in the 60's!

Jeff_in_KC
03-29-2009, 08:07 PM
When talking to possible sponsors, "professional"... it has a better ring to it and instills a bit more confidence in their decision to sponsor. I always make the opportunity seem as professional as possible. I think the KCBS refers to it as a professional circuit as opposed to non-sanctioned events which may be considered amateur or something similar. "Undertaken as a means of livelihood or for gain" covers us. We're all trying to win and "gain". I know I am.

txschutte
03-29-2009, 08:12 PM
Jeff nailed it.

71-South
03-29-2009, 09:14 PM
I guess prospective sponsors don't dig the term "Farker" too much, huh?

The Pickled Pig
03-29-2009, 09:24 PM
I consider BBQ Competitions a sport and myself an athlete.:shock:

Just Smokin' Around
03-29-2009, 09:49 PM
I think the term "professional" is used to differentiate from "backyard" cooks at a competition. I don't see it used too much in the mid-Atlantic comps. I feel more of a competitor doing all 4 categories needed to win the overall.

HoDeDo
03-29-2009, 09:55 PM
100% Competitor. (He couldda been a contenda)

Jeff Stehney, Olley Gates, etc. are BBQ Professionals.

Even with Sponsors, I would submit I am an amateur - an Enthusiast -Professional no, but an avid competitor.

Jeff- Just something to think about... But I would usually not use that term in talking with sponsors. My sponsors know I am there with my wife, girls, a dog, and who knows what else. It is a "sport" with lots of eyes on it, it is a marketing play. There are alot of reasons to sponsor me, but not because I'm a professional :)

Kristin Meredith
03-29-2009, 10:03 PM
I don't think of myself as a professional when I enter contests because we don't sell BBQ for money -- we don't cater or vend or have a restaurant etc. -- as a means of supporting ourselves on a daily basis.

I am not even sure I am a competitor. I don't invest a lot of time practicing or trying to develop sauces and brines and rubs. I use to, but it didn't help, so I don't bother any more. :-) I do give it my all when I go to a competition and try to the best of my abilities, but since I don't study and practice am I really that dedicated a competitor? My honest answer to that would have to be "no".

So, I guess that I have begun to conclude that I am a hobbyist. This is an activity that is different from other things which I do in life and so provides a nice break/release from everyday worries and boredom, provides some nice conversation starters with non-BBQ friends, and always has the possibility of providing a thrill if the judges do like what I do and give me a walk!!

Alexa RnQ
03-29-2009, 10:19 PM
Competitor. We'll be professionals when we quit our day jobs, I suppose. *snort*

PatioDaddio
03-29-2009, 10:40 PM
Just a young kid with a dream. :-D

John

KC_Bobby
03-29-2009, 10:41 PM
I consider BBQ Competitions a sport and myself an athlete.:shock:

Exactly. We best meet up early Friday afternoon for a pregame drink so we don't get dehydrated.

Double D's BBQ
03-30-2009, 03:16 AM
Everyone that participates in a BBQ competition is a competitor. Those that compete for money and prizes are professionals.

BBQ_Mayor
03-30-2009, 06:41 AM
Got to be a little of all. Professional for the sponsor side of it, competitor cause it's a competition and it's my nature, and Hobbist cause it's something I love to do and have fun at while not take expenses off taxes.

CivilWarBBQ
03-30-2009, 07:10 AM
When I'm at a cookoff, I consider myself a Happy Man.

:D

Divemaster
03-30-2009, 08:31 AM
pro⋅fes⋅sion⋅al 
–adjective 1.following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder. 2.of, pertaining to, or connected with a profession: professional studies. 3.appropriate to a profession: professional objectivity. 4.engaged in one of the learned professions: A lawyer is a professional person. 5.following as a business an occupation ordinarily engaged in as a pastime: a professional golfer. 6.making a business or constant practice of something not properly to be regarded as a business: “A salesman,” he said, “is a professional optimist.” 7.undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. 8.of or for a professional person or his or her place of business or work: a professional apartment; professional equipment. 9.done by a professional; expert: professional car repairs.


When you compete in a BBQ competition, do you consider yourself a BBQ professional?


Are you just a competitor, a hobbist, a professional...one, some or all?
I don't know... Based on your definition, I guess we would be considered 'Professional' because we sell Q to make money to do the comps even if it isn't my primary income...

Everyone that participates in a BBQ competition is a competitor. Those that compete for money and prizes are professionals.
I don't know many that don't go out to a comp and not at least hope that they would will either win money and/or prizes...

Double D's BBQ
03-30-2009, 10:41 AM
I don't know... Based on your definition, I guess we would be considered 'Professional' because we sell Q to make money to do the comps even if it isn't my primary income...


I don't know many that don't go out to a comp and not at least hope that they would will either win money and/or prizes...

Yes, exactly my point although I'm not sure there is such thing as an amateur in compeititon BBQ and I've never seen anyone turn the money down once they won it, although there are teams that donate their proceeds to charity and I highly commend them for that.

I think of professionals more in sports terms than I do as in a "profession". It used to be you could tell the amateur athletes apart from the professionals though that line has now been blurred considerably especially with the Olympics. Do you think we can get BBQ as an Olympic medal sport?:-D

bbqczar
03-30-2009, 10:49 AM
I see us a "professional competitors":grin:

ammoore
03-30-2009, 10:51 AM
BBQ Olympics....HMMMMM I'm liking the sound of that.

paydabill
03-30-2009, 11:20 AM
I think of myself as an idiot with an expensive hobby - my wife would just say an idiot.

Yakfishingfool
03-30-2009, 11:48 AM
I be an Athlete!!!!

HBMTN
03-30-2009, 07:01 PM
To rephase your question a little, in the world of competing in BBQ, at which stage would you consider an amature bbq or pro? I would say if you are competing in the back yard competitions you would be consider amature and if you are competing on a circuit that is consider a top circuit like KCBS or MIM then you are a pro. Lots of pro's do their deal as hobby. Take Harry Gant when he was in NASCAR he would put up drywall Mon -Thurs and go racing Fri-Sun.

Mike - CSBBBQ
03-30-2009, 07:36 PM
When I grow up I want to be a pro, until then just an addicted competitor:wink: