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Plowboy
03-22-2009, 07:21 PM
Anyone else get an email on this?

http://www.abaproam.com/newsdetails.php?news_id=137

Plowboy
03-22-2009, 07:30 PM
http://www.americanbassanglers.com/bbq/

Bbq Bubba
03-22-2009, 07:44 PM
No parsley! :lol:

Plowboy
03-22-2009, 07:49 PM
No parsley! :lol:

Where do you read that?

I hope KCBS is involved in this since the ABA is using the KCBS rules almost word for word.

http://www.americanbassanglers.com/bbq/rules.php

G$
03-22-2009, 07:51 PM
No parsley! :lol:

Huh?

"6. Garnish is limited to green leaf (no red tipped) lettuce and common curly
parsley only."

G$
03-22-2009, 07:55 PM
General Comments:

I think this is both interesting and a great idea. FWIW, ABA and bassmmaster are two totally different organizations I think.

Ulcer Acres
03-22-2009, 08:20 PM
I did not get the email Todd, but thanks a bunch. Even if it is not sanctioned it pays better money than some of the KCBS contest. It almost sounds a little like a MBN contest. Thanks again.

Diva Q
03-22-2009, 08:43 PM
I got an email about this yesterday from:

Debra Talley, National Marketing Director
American Bass Anglers
American Fishing Tour
Toyota Tundra Bassmaster Weekend Series
American Couples Series
Military Bass Anglers
ESPN

Vince RnQ
03-22-2009, 09:12 PM
Got an e-mail on it today.

Dustaway
03-22-2009, 09:40 PM
very interesting

Plowboy
03-22-2009, 09:52 PM
I did not get the email Todd, but thanks a bunch. Even if it is not sanctioned it pays better money than some of the KCBS contest. It almost sounds a little like a MBN contest. Thanks again.

Debra Talley

dtalley@americanbassanglers.com

Plowboy
03-22-2009, 09:56 PM
For the record, I'm against any contest using (stealing) the KCBS rules without permission. KCBS is no where on the site, in the application, or in the rules. If KCBS wasn't involved, I won't even consider attending.

I sure hope they were.

DMDon
03-22-2009, 10:14 PM
Question, What is the difference between professional cookers and backyard grillers? I am only familiar with KCBS rules where every team is the same. Thanks

Plowboy
03-22-2009, 10:17 PM
Question, What is the difference between professional cookers and backyard grillers? I am only familiar with KCBS rules where every team is the same. Thanks

About $500 for first place in a category and $200 on the entry fee. :wink:

I've never understood the Pro/Backyard thing. I think it is a Southern thing.

The Pickled Pig
03-22-2009, 10:24 PM
Anyone else get an email on this?

http://www.abaproam.com/newsdetails.php?news_id=137

I received an email asking for my snail mail address so they can send information regarding the event. There wasn't a link to the site in my email.

Plowboy
03-22-2009, 10:32 PM
I received an email asking for my snail mail address so they can send information regarding the event. There wasn't a link to the site in my email.

I got the same. I used Google.

DMDon
03-22-2009, 10:40 PM
About $500 for first place in a category and $200 on the entry fee. :wink:

I've never understood the Pro/Backyard thing. I think it is a Southern thing.


I was under the impression that a team was considered backyard until they had 2 GCs. that could be way off base as I think I picked that up from some BBQ show on the Food Network. Any body with the real answer, please chime in.

Plowboy
03-22-2009, 10:45 PM
Got a response already to my question about KCBS involvement. As a KCBS member, I can't support a contest that wants to use our rules for free without BOD endorsement.

"No, we're just using the best of the rules offered by several different sanctioning bodies. We're an entity unto itself and cannot really go in that direction."

Dustaway
03-23-2009, 07:22 AM
kinda hard to use the best of the rules and then not use the CBJ they have no thank you

ssbbqguy
03-23-2009, 07:43 AM
Thanks for putting this out to consider. I also do not want KCBS to be used without their sanction. I only hope the board will have some way to prevent using bits and pieces of rules without full authority. As mentioned, judges without knowledge sucks. I am all for expansion of competing, but with structure, not just bits and pieces. Hope that this will get enough attention to turn into to something decent. Steve.

Neal
03-23-2009, 09:21 AM
We're an entity unto itself and cannot really go in that direction."

Translation: "We ain't payin' no stinkin' sanctioning fee."

This has potential disaster written all over it. With out a stable sanctioning body in place, these things can go south real quick.

Jorge
03-23-2009, 09:45 AM
Once we have received your entry form, you will receive a list of the



American Bass Anglers Cook-off Rules and Regulations.


I think I'd rather know the rules and details, before handing over $250, plus $15 to join their organization.

The Pickled Pig
03-23-2009, 11:43 AM
I think I'd rather know the rules and details, before handing over $250, plus $15 to join their organization.



The rules are posted on the site. http://www.americanbassanglers.com/bbq/rules.php

G$
03-23-2009, 01:02 PM
I'd like to clarify an earlier statement I made. When saying this is a "great idea", I mean in the cross brand marketing sense. I can think of a lot of other good organizations that already exist in an of themselves, that could certainly take on sponsorship of a defined series of BBQ competitions, either seperate from or in conjunction with their events. They already have much of the required infrastructure (staff/marketing/venue) in place to do so.

So, I like the concept. I won't comment on whether they are stealing rules, formats etc.

willkat98
03-23-2009, 01:21 PM
The rules are posted on the site. http://www.americanbassanglers.com/bbq/rules.php

Wonder if sand is a mandatory garnish for turn in for rule 9.(e)

Plowboy
03-23-2009, 02:52 PM
Wonder if sand is a mandatory garnish for turn in for rule 9.(e)

That is funny!!! Cacti would be considered marking.

Rub
03-23-2009, 03:34 PM
Got it, looking into it.

ulikabbq
03-23-2009, 04:41 PM
one of the big reasons I cook KCBS is because of the consistency. I would be really interested in the Paris, TN event because there are no contest in or around TN during that time. however, spending $250 with too many unknowns does not not sound appealing. If it was a KCBS I would sign up in a hurry.

Rub
03-23-2009, 05:02 PM
When I replied back to her original email, I wasn't aware of the (lack of) sanctioning setup. I suggested to her that she contact us at the FBA. No response yet.

musicmanryann
03-23-2009, 05:02 PM
Got a response already to my question about KCBS involvement. As a KCBS member, I can't support a contest that wants to use our rules for free without BOD endorsement.

I completely agree--they will not get my support either (for what it is worth, which probably isn't a whole lot).

In addition I can understand that an established organization with an established fan-base would feel they can "go it alone", and not have to pay associated fees, but to me this is a situation that I feel a better result would occur if the organizations partnered together. If this happened KCBS, or another sanctioning body could provide the infrastructure and organization to get the comp going such as rules, judging procedure and timeline etc. and Bassmasters can provide the access to the sanctioning body to their fan-base, set schedule, and media exposure. From my perspective, this would be a benefit to both organizations equally and an opportunity for each to grow together.

dhagood
04-12-2009, 09:41 PM
Just an FYI, we are in discussions with KCBS on sanctioning and hopefully that can work out.

Thanks,
David Hagood
American Bass Anglers, Inc
www.americanbassanglers.com (http://www.americanbassanglers.com)
www.ababbq.com (http://www.ababbq.com)

Plowboy
04-13-2009, 12:22 AM
Just an FYI, we are in discussions with KCBS on sanctioning and hopefully that can work out.

Thanks,
David Hagood
American Bass Anglers, Inc
www.americanbassanglers.com (http://www.americanbassanglers.com)
www.ababbq.com (http://www.ababbq.com)

That's great, David. You'll be glad you did. Best to get plugged in early. KCBS can help you so much. Worth the investment, IMHO. As cooks, we love having a sanctioned contest where we know the rules and know how it will be run. A BBQ contest for a team is no small investment in money and time. As with the contest, we need to manage our assets wisely.

Best of luck. If you get sanctioned by KCBS, we might see you in November at the Arkansas contest.

Dustaway
04-13-2009, 09:55 AM
I hope you guy's get it worked out with KCBS Todd is correct it will help you out a bunch

QueTPiesBBQ
04-13-2009, 10:16 AM
looking forward to the possiblity of having a KCBS contest in November in arkansas. Dustaway are you coming to Lula, Ms? If so I will come by and say hello. Your location says Tomball, Texas. My wife has family just up the road in Magnolia, Texas.

dhagood
05-11-2009, 09:56 AM
Update on the Kuttawa, KY event. The community is doing an awesome job promoting and also creating a lot for the public to do at the August 22 event.

Check out their fliers they are putting out locally. http://www.ababbq.com/kuttawa_bbq_flier.pdf (http://www.ababbq.com/kuttawa_bbq_flier.pdf)

getyourrubonbbq
05-11-2009, 06:52 PM
David, I see the KCBS logo on the flyer, is this a KCBS sanctioned event and if so do you know who the reps will be?

Merl
05-11-2009, 10:38 PM
We will review the contest sanctioning request. I believe we will approve the contest to receive sanctioning Tuesday evening, at our board meeting. There are no objections on file. The Rep assignment will be on the website within a few weeks.
The organizer has the first choice as to whom he/she desires as reps.

KCBS should be excited that American Bass Anglers has chosen to have KCBS sanction their events. We hope this to be a great opportunity for both KCBS and ABA.
Merl Whitebook

dhagood
05-12-2009, 01:12 PM
James we have requested Tana Shupe

dhagood
05-13-2009, 01:53 PM
We are now fully sanctioned by KCBS.