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PatioDaddio
03-22-2009, 12:49 AM
Here is my first 2009 competition practice box. I'd appreciate your appearance scores. My ego has been checked at the door, so let 'er rip. I know it's a little rough and needs more attention to detail.

http://www.patiodaddiobbq.com/images/food/ribs/20090321RibsPractice_3.jpg

Thanks in advance,
John

Garth57
03-22-2009, 12:56 AM
Too much sauce, looks like only 4 ribs, I would give a 6 max.

PatioDaddio
03-22-2009, 01:08 AM
Thanks, Bill. They actually have one very thin coat of a thin sauce, but that's how pictures go sometimes.

I appreciate your input.

John

Puppyboy
03-22-2009, 04:35 AM
Is that four stacked on four?

The greens at the top are covering a small portion of the ribs, which may appear sloppy to a judge.

bbq ron
03-22-2009, 05:32 AM
well just got out of judging school yesterday, and can tell you that there is to muck sauce on the ribs. i must ask though, are all the ribs cut cleanly through so that they aren't stuck together cause is sure doesn't look like it but all around i will give it a 6:-P:-P

Diva Q
03-22-2009, 06:59 AM
I would give it a 7

bottom right hand rib cut on an angle needs to be square up - noticeable against the others.

The greenery could be cleaner.

the color is fantastic.

Chipper
03-22-2009, 07:28 AM
I would go with a 7. Nice color, but it is a little sloppy looking.

HeSmellsLikeSmoke
03-22-2009, 07:52 AM
The ribs themselves have a lot of promise if trimmed more evenly. The garnish looks like it was hasty and has a bit too much in the box to the point of overflowing the sides. 7 with a higher potential with just a few corrections.

WannaBeBBQueen
03-22-2009, 08:06 AM
I agree 7, needs a little clean up, but looks good!

BBQ_Mayor
03-22-2009, 08:08 AM
That's how I stack mine and have done well. Like some here, people say it looks like there are only 4 ribs. I guess that may bite me in the butt sometime. Just an FYI for ya.

Anyway. I'd give it a 7 or 8. I'm guessing the picture is making look like too much sauce.

MilitantSquatter
03-22-2009, 08:13 AM
7. Agree with some of the other comments about general cleanup, and squaring of the cuts.

Shift the ribs down to the front a bit more or make the spread a little bit wider, so they appear slightly larger.. Other option is to cut off a little less when trimming.

IS that green leaf lettuce and parsley mixed together ?

FatBoyz
03-22-2009, 08:14 AM
i like the look nice and jucey but i can only see four i went bake and realy looked i see 6 now... i would give them a 7

Alexa RnQ
03-22-2009, 10:15 AM
I'd give it a 7. I clearly see 8 ribs, but I agree with the comments that an overall attention to tightening up on the evenness and uniformity of the ribs would help, as would reducing the "salad explosion" effect.

Also, when stacking, be sure to check that you can close your box without dinging the top row. I'm overly paranoid about messy box lids.

musicmanryann
03-22-2009, 10:29 AM
I would give it a 7.

I like the color, and they look pretty tasty to me.:-D Like many other peoples' comments, I would try to make more even and square cuts. The meat could also be centered in the box a little more. The meat could be enhanced a little better with more attention paid to the lettuce/parsley placement.

nthole
03-22-2009, 11:03 AM
I'm with everyone else. 7. I like the color of the ribs, don't feel like the sauce is a negative at all. One angle cut rib, but for the most part a good job on them being even. Greenery is just too much and too sloppy.

PatioDaddio
03-22-2009, 01:40 PM
Thanks so much for all of the honest feedback. The picture is definitely not doing me any favors, but my wife took our good camera (Nikon D50) with her to SoCal. I had to make due with our old craptastic 2MP cheap camera.

There are eight ribs stacked four on four. They were cut and easy to see as eight in person.

I typically do putting green boxes, but I was lazy with this one and it shows. It's leaf lettuce around the edges and parsley on top of shredded lettuce for the center.

I had three racks with pretty crooked (angled) bones, so that's what happened with the top right rib.

Thanks again,
John

PatioDaddio
03-22-2009, 01:56 PM
FYI - For comparison, here is a box from last season that was taken with the good camera. This is a better representation of my typical garnish.

The answer to your next question is 9-9-7-9-8-8 :-D

http://www.patiodaddiobbq.com/images/food/ribs/Aug2008_1_1.jpg

Smokin Mike
03-22-2009, 02:04 PM
If it was me I wouldn't stack, and I would lay them on a solid parsley putting greens.

I am no expert, but I do judge, and did my first contest at NKC, got 18th out of 73 on ribs, on apperence I got 1,7 and 3,9 and 2,8, so I'm still learning too, being very green I was rushing and my wife says, aren't you going to take pics of your turnin's, I said FARK that, no need to add another step on my first contest.

judging your's I would give it a 7, maybe in person looking at it still a 7 or maybe a 8

EDIT: I was referring to the first pic.

Jacked UP BBQ
03-22-2009, 08:29 PM
I go with a seven, nice color on the ribs, just a little sloppy on the knife skills.

parrothead
03-22-2009, 08:35 PM
I do like and have turned in the 4 on 4. In this particular batch I would move the top layer down a bit to centralize the whole lot. 5 x 5 may work well with that size rib as well.

I would gobble them up though. Were they tasty?

PatioDaddio
03-22-2009, 09:26 PM
...I would gobble them up though. Were they tasty?Yes, they were. In fact, I think they were the best ribs I've ever cooked, based on taste and tenderness. Ain't that how it always goes? You cook comfortably at home and everything clicks. Then you go to a comp and something else happens.

Thanks for the input,
John

Jeff_in_KC
03-23-2009, 08:27 AM
well just got out of judging school yesterday, and can tell you that there is to muck sauce on the ribs. i must ask though, are all the ribs cut cleanly through so that they aren't stuck together cause is sure doesn't look like it but all around i will give it a 6:-P:-P

What part of the CBJ class made you think there is too much sauce on the ribs? The only rule about quantities of sauce is no puddling of sauce in the box. You can't tell that from this picture. While I don't disagree that thick amounts of sauce is a detriment to the meat and being able to taste it, it is not illegal or wrong. I hope you got more out of the class that will be of benefit to you.

Divemaster
03-23-2009, 09:56 AM
I too would give it a 7, but I also think that it has real potential to move up with some cleanup...

Divemaster
03-23-2009, 10:00 AM
What part of the CBJ class made you think there is too much sauce on the ribs? The only rule about quantities of sauce is no puddling of sauce in the box. You can't tell that from this picture. While I don't disagree that thick amounts of sauce is a detriment to the meat and being able to taste it, it is not illegal or wrong. I hope you got more out of the class that will be of benefit to you.
First let me say that the picture is not a great help and the reflection of light does make it appear that the ribs were over sauced.

Jeff, I actually agree that there is to much sauce and that would cause me to knock down the score a bit... While there is no 'rule' that states what is to much (other than pooling), this is appearance and a bunch of sauce on ribs does not "make me want to grab one" and therefore I would need to score it down a bit...

Big George's BBQ
03-23-2009, 01:41 PM
Agree with the other comments- 7

Bastey Boy
03-23-2009, 02:20 PM
I truly and honestly cannot believe the scores you're getting from some of these posters.

9

They look delicious!

stlgreg
03-23-2009, 02:23 PM
i would give it a 7 most likely - too much sauce.

Chipper
03-23-2009, 02:51 PM
Looks like a 9 to me.

Bentley
03-23-2009, 03:04 PM
Never judged a box looking at it from that angle...an 8.

PatioDaddio
03-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Thanks again folks. I'd probably give it a 7. It was hurried and a little sloppy. It's the little things...

John

Solidkick
03-23-2009, 05:49 PM
Thanks again folks. I'd probably give it a 7. It was hurried and a little sloppy. It's the little things...

John

That's the main thing.......and you got good feedback as well....now go make you a 9er! you can do it!