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The Train
01-18-2009, 11:10 AM
Just getting ready for my first 4 meat compete. I know in some you have to present still in cryovac to keep people from pre-injecting. This one you don't (IBCA).
So, the question: Is it worth going to a butcher & paying $$$$ for meat? I know a lot of folks buy Smart & Final, Costco, etc.
What say you? BTW, can you give me your thoughts on both cryovac & unwrapped? Thanks!

C Rocke
01-18-2009, 11:25 AM
S and F, Costco, Sam's, Stater's for pork butt, Restaurant Depot as well.

MilitantSquatter
01-18-2009, 11:34 AM
I think the butcher is only the ideal option if you are looking for a specifc grade (ex. prime) or type/brand (ex. dry/wet aged,Waygu, Angus, Berkshire, Bell & Evan's) that you couldn't get at another location.

Paying your butcher a premium for basic grade like choice is just a waste of money and you may not get the weight or size you are looking for if you go to pickup right before a contest.

on the other hand, if you and the butcher have a great relationship and the butcher truly understands your needs then it may be worth some bucks extra $ for the time saved not having to do the grunt work yourself.

The Train
01-18-2009, 11:40 AM
I think the butcher is only the ideal option if you are looking for a specifc grade (ex. prime) or type/brand (ex. dry/wet aged,Waygu, Angus, Berkshire, Bell & Evan's) that you couldn't get at another location.

Paying your butcher a premium for basic grade like choice is just a waste of money and you may not get the weight or size you are looking for if you go to pickup right before a contest.

on the other hand, if you and the butcher have a great relationship and the butcher truly understands your needs then it may be worth some bucks extra $ for the time saved not having to do the grunt work yourself.
But let's face it. Is their really such a thing as a "Prime" brisket?

Podge
01-18-2009, 12:01 PM
I buy mine from a C.A.B. distributor, who also sells meat to high-end restaraunts here in town. They can get me whatever meat I want, whenever. Totally happy with them.

The Pigman
01-18-2009, 12:05 PM
Restuaruant Depot and very happy with them. They get what ever I want. They also help out in time of need like a Benefit.

CTSmokehouse
01-18-2009, 12:08 PM
But let's face it. Is their really such a thing as a "Prime" brisket?


Yes there is ... smoked a Prime Gold Packer Brisket at Hudson Valley Rib Fest, New Paltz,NY ...bought it at Vincent's Meat Market, Arthur Avenue, Bronx, NY....

Was it good...UBet!!!

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

Rub
01-18-2009, 12:14 PM
Family owned and run butcher for me. Their prices are very close to the mega marts that have all but killed the family run businesses. And there is no comparing the service I get.
Support the little guy!

CTSmokehouse
01-18-2009, 12:22 PM
I'm smoking a 13.8 lb Packer Corned Beef Brisket (Pastrami mod)at this time that I got at Restaurant Depot....Looks great...

Aging two 16 lb Packers I got at Restaurant Depot...

Some ribs and butts.... and a 4lb wheel of Maytag Blue Cheese(8.45/lb)(was great on the filet of beef last night)

Guess I like Restaurant Depot...

Also like Omaha Beef, Danbury CT and Caraluzzi's, Georgetown, CT(Dave the Butcher rocks...)

Cryovac is the way to go...either from the store or vacu-seal...

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

JD McGee
01-18-2009, 12:38 PM
Costco...

EatonHoggBBQ
01-18-2009, 12:45 PM
Sysco, Sam's Club, and a local butcher shop I've been dealing with for the past 29 years.

Jorge
01-18-2009, 01:15 PM
But let's face it. Is their really such a thing as a "Prime" brisket?

Yes there is, and it's not a bad idea to keep in mind that it's been graded that way for a reason when cooking it:mrgreen:

CTSmokehouse
01-18-2009, 01:47 PM
Yes there is, and it's not a bad idea to keep in mind that it's been graded that way for a reason when cooking it:mrgreen:

Cuts like butter!

Smokin Mike
01-18-2009, 02:09 PM
sam's seems to have better selection than costco around here, any kc guys around here, correct me if I am wrong, costco does not sell packers.

CTSmokehouse
01-18-2009, 02:16 PM
After having line caught King Salmon (full fish, split side with fishmonger)flown in overnight from Alaska and Canada (with certification) and Prime Packer Brisket from Arthur Avenue, Bronx...I'm not sure it is a good investment...granted I've learned alot since and am a CBJ...I think that the quality get's lost in the KCBS presentation etc...what I thought cranked lost to COSTCO etc... We placed very well, but I think that the judges are tuned in to the rules and taste/quality gets lost in the mix...

JMHO

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

The Train
01-18-2009, 02:23 PM
Crud. With all the reference to Restaurant Depot, I went online to check them out. Don't have a business license as we haven't started catering....yet.:mad:

Dr_KY
01-18-2009, 02:26 PM
My neighborhood butcher.

http://i41.tinypic.com/bimm1x.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/solauo.jpg

Jeff_in_KC
01-18-2009, 02:31 PM
I can do briskets from Sam's Club but rarely do I find one with enough marbleing like I want it to have. And I can't do chit with Sam's ribs. Terrible shapes and bones sticking out all over the place on the surfaces of the slabs. I go by my ribs at a local meat market and do well almost every time and the final cooked product is always evident from the Sam's ones when we by both and go to tasting them before turn-in.

MilitantSquatter
01-18-2009, 03:23 PM
Crud. With all the reference to Restaurant Depot, I went online to check them out. Don't have a business license as we haven't started catering....yet.:mad:

ask for a one-day guest/temporary pass.. Many here have used that route successfully.

CTSmokehouse
01-18-2009, 03:24 PM
Crud. With all the reference to Restaurant Depot, I went online to check them out. Don't have a business license as we haven't started catering....yet.:mad:


You can get a free 1 day pass... if you have a Business tax ID number you can do that ... or you can do what I did...I got a letter from the President of the local Rotary Club ..non profit org...I buy supplies for Rotary and BBQ or have a friend with A Restaurant Depot Card ..give you one...or take you along with them...

Good Luck,

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

You beat me to the gun Vinny...

CTSmokehouse
01-18-2009, 03:36 PM
My neighborhood butcher.

http://i41.tinypic.com/bimm1x.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/solauo.jpg

That looks totaly cool... do they have power equipment in the U.K. too?

Been there.. just kiddin...

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

smokinyankees
01-18-2009, 03:42 PM
costco is for some things out here and s-mart is good for others...

Alexa RnQ
01-18-2009, 10:20 PM
We pretty much settled into a meat-buying routine last season -- pork butt, spares and chicken came from Costco, and briskets came from Albertson's. One store in particular had a meat man who was very accommodating once they understood our needs, and would wheel out a trolley full of packers for VQ to paw through.

Gowan
01-19-2009, 01:34 AM
We source all of our meat through our sponsor, Buckhead Beef, with the exception of chicken. (BB doesn't carry premium chicken in parts, only whole birds).

CAB, Prime, Wagyu... whatever we need, Buckhead Beef has got it!

KuyasKitchen
01-19-2009, 07:23 AM
I buy supplies for Rotary and BBQ or have a friend with A Restaurant Depot Card ..

As a member of the local Rotary ... thank you for your support.

Dr_KY
01-19-2009, 08:11 AM
That looks totaly cool... do they have power equipment in the U.K. too?

Been there.. just kiddin...

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff
lol I suppose the large chains do but as advanced as he gets is a little meat slicer, an oven for the pies abd a vacu-sucker.He refuses to take cards of any sort.

Here is a shot from about 4 feet inside the door of the building..

Notice the sign in regards to Christmas? lol
http://i41.tinypic.com/m9vzua.jpg

nthole
01-19-2009, 08:22 AM
We do Sams for brisket, butts and ribs. The local grocery for chicken. If we had a good local butcher I would probably try and support that.

Bigmista
01-19-2009, 09:05 AM
Restaurant Depot unless I catch sale on good meat somewhere else.

Sledneck
01-19-2009, 09:31 AM
Restaurant depot for big meats
Costco for ribs
Supermarket for chicken

Big George's BBQ
01-19-2009, 09:42 AM
I have a pretty good meat market not far from me- Colonial Village Meats. I go to Whole Foods for Chicken

PaPaQ
01-19-2009, 09:52 AM
Crud. With all the reference to Restaurant Depot, I went online to check them out. Don't have a business license as we haven't started catering....yet.:mad:

It doesn't matter what kind of business license you have, I used my Burglar Alarm License and the signed me up, I also signed the Fire Dept where I volunteer. Any other non profit organization will work. Can't wait untill they open up here next month.

michiana mark
01-19-2009, 10:15 AM
Usually Sam's for the big three, and a local grocer for chicken. They also carry choice flats, and may have to try one this year.