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Buster Dog BBQ
01-06-2009, 08:38 AM
There is a new contest in my state and I just saw the entry form yesterday. $250 entry includes power and water. $10k in prize money but payouts only through the top 5 in each category. This contest is a first year and expects to draw 48 teams. The entry is $250 which is about $50-100 more than all the other contest in the state. Heck, they even have a backyard that is $150 entry and only the first two places pay out more than the entry fee.

Personally I think the entry fee is too high and I was considering contacting the organizer and telling them this. Has anyone ever done that? Just curious. what was the response like? Is it worth it? I would like to see this contest succeed because there are no other ones in the vicinity.

Ashmont
01-06-2009, 08:53 AM
I am sure they will get the picture when they dont reach 15 teams. :twisted: Way to high for me!

HoDeDo
01-06-2009, 09:05 AM
There is a new contest in my state and I just saw the entry form yesterday. $250 entry includes power and water. $10k in prize money but payouts only through the top 5 in each category. This contest is a first year and expects to draw 48 teams. The entry is $250 which is about $50-100 more than all the other contest in the state. Heck, they even have a backyard that is $150 entry and only the first two places pay out more than the entry fee.

Personally I think the entry fee is too high and I was considering contacting the organizer and telling them this. Has anyone ever done that? Just curious. what was the response like? Is it worth it? I would like to see this contest succeed because there are no other ones in the vicinity.

I think you just nailed it... there are no other ones in the vicinity... So a couple things may be going on:
1. He may be testing the supply/demand waters - to see what the market will bear, knowing he is the only game in vicinity.
2. He may need the extra entry money to help boost the prize pot... depends on his sponsors and what they are providing.
3. His venue.... are they donating it? is it given to him at a reduced cost... or is he having to pay full tilt for the location, (folks may be charging him more based on the economy as well)

I think this year will be really interesting in general to see how contests are impacted both in prize $$ and entry costs.

KC_Bobby
01-06-2009, 09:06 AM
Is this cook KCBS sanctioned?

Buster Dog BBQ
01-06-2009, 09:11 AM
Is this cook KCBS sanctioned?
Yes it is sanctioned

HoDeDo
01-06-2009, 09:44 AM
IT doesn't hurt to call him... but I would look for some of his drivers for the price... vs. just telling him to drop it. You might share with him the disparity between his and other Iowa events as well...
AG

Buster Dog BBQ
01-06-2009, 10:05 AM
IT doesn't hurt to call him... but I would look for some of his drivers for the price... vs. just telling him to drop it. You might share with him the disparity between his and other Iowa events as well...
AG

Thanks Andy. I don't want to tell someone how to run a contest but that just jumped out at me. Who knows, the venue could be top notch and worth every penny.

G$
01-06-2009, 10:13 AM
I am not sure I have ever paid less than 250 inclusive. That seems right in line to me.

Dale P
01-06-2009, 10:58 AM
200 is just a real nice round #. JMHO

watertowerbbq
01-06-2009, 05:39 PM
There is a new contest in my state and I just saw the entry form yesterday. $250 entry includes power and water. $10k in prize money but payouts only through the top 5 in each category. This contest is a first year and expects to draw 48 teams. The entry is $250 which is about $50-100 more than all the other contest in the state. Heck, they even have a backyard that is $150 entry and only the first two places pay out more than the entry fee.

Personally I think the entry fee is too high and I was considering contacting the organizer and telling them this. Has anyone ever done that? Just curious. what was the response like? Is it worth it? I would like to see this contest succeed because there are no other ones in the vicinity.

Buster Dog,

I thought the exact same thing when I got the e-mail. $150 to cook ribs in the backyard division! :eek::eek: Will be interesting to see how many teams head down there.

KC_Bobby
01-06-2009, 08:02 PM
Is the the new one in SouthCentral/East IA?

Buster Dog BBQ
01-06-2009, 09:14 PM
Is the the new one in SouthCentral/East IA?
Yes, that is correct.

Jeff_in_KC
01-06-2009, 11:20 PM
Wow! And here I was thinking the $180 for St. Joseph, MO is too rich for my blood with all the $150 contests around KC!

CivilWarBBQ
01-07-2009, 04:39 AM
I am not sure I have ever paid less than 250 inclusive. That seems right in line to me.

Yep. A perfect example of how different things are in each region. The Midwest cooks get spoiled by the lower costs to organizers and high density of contests. Move away from the heartland and we're thrilled to see a new contest within a four hour drive, regardless of the entry fee!

Just Smokin' Around
01-07-2009, 09:20 PM
$200 - $250 is what I normally see. This one includes electric. I see a lot of contest where electric is an additional $25 (the ones with the $200 entry fee). $150 for the backyard comp seems a bit steep. $75 is more in line with what I see in the mid-Atlantic for BY.
Gettin' ready to mail a form for the first contest of the year - $250 and includes electric and water.

HoDeDo
01-07-2009, 09:59 PM
So have you gotten any feedback from the organizer yet?

Buster Dog BBQ
01-07-2009, 10:02 PM
So have you gotten any feedback from the organizer yet?
I have not contacted him yet. We have our annual meeting next week and I am going to see what some of the locals plans are. This forum did help with some of the things we don't always think of like unique location, facility, etc. I will let you know what comes of it.

KC_Bobby
01-07-2009, 10:11 PM
Rod,
Ask around the IBS banquet and see what the others are thinking.

We paid $215 for Waucoma - $180 at State Center - and $150 at LaPorte in 2008

Buster Dog BBQ
01-08-2009, 07:43 AM
Rod,
Ask around the IBS banquet and see what the others are thinking.

We paid $215 for Waucoma - $180 at State Center - and $150 at LaPorte in 2008
Yeah, State Center is still $180 with electric and extra space, Marshalltown is $150 and I am sure the others haven't increased much if at all.

ThomEmery
01-08-2009, 08:06 AM
The early discount is a nice touch
Pay early get $50 off the price

Pig Headed
01-08-2009, 09:08 AM
$200 - $250 is the norm in this area.

KC_Bobby
01-08-2009, 10:04 AM
Incomes are also generally higher on both coasts then in the midwest too - correct?

monty3777
01-08-2009, 10:54 AM
FWIW, I got that email and immediately dismissed the contest because of the entry fee.

CivilWarBBQ
01-08-2009, 12:38 PM
Incomes are also generally higher on both coasts then in the midwest too - correct?

Can't say for elsewhere, but here's some census numbers for my state compared to Iowa, from the Washington Post in 2006:

Median Houshold Income
National = $41,994
Georgia = $49,136
Iowa = $47,292

I don't think it's a question of income level as much as it is the cost to produce an event and supply vs demand.

BBQchef33
01-08-2009, 02:27 PM
not sure if i've ever seen a contest for under $200.

Sledneck
01-08-2009, 02:32 PM
not sure if i've ever seen a contest for under $200.
Lake Placid NY is $150 right in your home state

monty3777
01-08-2009, 02:33 PM
The problem is that Iowa already has a lot of really good comps where plenty of the top teams compete. If you want to bust into that schedule I find it hard to believe that you would charge more than other comps! Go to Marshalltown and many of the top 10 TOYs are there and the comp is $100 less than the brand new comp in Iowa. Now, maybe the logic is "no good teams will be there so I gotta get a call this time" :)

Hey - that just may be worth the extra c note!

BBQchef33
01-08-2009, 02:34 PM
never been there. NY is a big state!

Sledneck
01-08-2009, 02:35 PM
never been there. NY is a big state!
Williepalooza $100 2007

Williepalooza 2009 $150

Jacked UP BBQ
01-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Williepalooza $100 2007

Williepalooza 2009 $150

is there really a williepalooza 09?

Buster Dog BBQ
01-08-2009, 04:26 PM
The problem is that Iowa already has a lot of really good comps where plenty of the top teams compete. If you want to bust into that schedule I find it hard to believe that you would charge more than other comps! Go to Marshalltown and many of the top 10 TOYs are there and the comp is $100 less than the brand new comp in Iowa. Now, maybe the logic is "no good teams will be there so I gotta get a call this time" :)

Hey - that just may be worth the extra c note!
Yeah, and they expect 48 teams. Maybe someone can chime in here, but the entry form already states the payouts. Aren't they bound to that if it is published?

Monty, you are right. Besides Marshalltown the BBQlossal and Mason City bring in over 50 teams as well. Last year there were two first year contest in Iowa. Both had less than 30 teams with entry fees $100 lower and the same payout as this one for Grand and Reserve.

Matt_A
07-20-2011, 02:11 PM
The midwest may have lots of comps, but down here in Oklahoma, not so much. The event I'm starting the planning for should have a fee/prize structure that will be attractive. Between entry fees and sponsor money I am looking to pay to 10th in all 4 categories and overall.

I'm contemplating a Backyard-type contest requiring advance registration where the fee is between $150-$175. Each entrant would get a Weber One-Touch Kettle, Grilling Utensils and a Kiddie Home Fire Extinguisher to keep after the competition. They'd also be given a bag of charcoal, a prep table and 2 chickens, either whole, or quartered. 3 hours to turn in anything they want as long as they used the grill, charcoal and chicken we gave them. Prizes - 1st $300, 2nd $200, 3rd $150, 4th $100, 5th $75. maybe more, maybe less depending on the number of entries. Just thinkin' out loud...