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HBMTN
11-18-2008, 11:36 AM
I did two competitions in 2008 and I firgure with entry fees, beer, gas, beer, meats, beer, food, beer, supplies, beer I spent between $500-$600 for each event. I just wondered what others are ball parking. Oh I almost left out beer :mrgreen:

mds2
11-18-2008, 11:39 AM
Probably between $400 and $500. That would included everything.


Edit: just to break it down.

Entry fees are around $150 here.
Meat is usually around $120
Beer and food probably $50-$75
Plus fuel, but I was lucky enough to not have to travel over an hour this year. Two contests were within 15 minutes.

Jacked UP BBQ
11-18-2008, 11:40 AM
1000 - 1200. If we rented a rv 2000. I need to get on your teams!!!!!!!!!!!

Fatback Joe
11-18-2008, 11:44 AM
I am in the 500 to 600 range also.

goodsmokebbq
11-18-2008, 11:45 AM
About a thousand, I'm sure the gas prices will make a rebound just in time for next season.

Podge
11-18-2008, 11:52 AM
$600-$800 all out of MY pocket..

Ron_L
11-18-2008, 11:58 AM
$500 is a good average, depending on distance and entry fees.

Big George's BBQ
11-18-2008, 12:02 PM
Probably between $600-700 per contest

The Giggler
11-18-2008, 12:02 PM
on average out of pocket - $1000+ including hotels for far away new england and east coast contests. $500-$600 for the local ONE. :roll:

smokincracker
11-18-2008, 12:12 PM
My guess....for contests around my area..

Entry = $200.00 - $300.00
Meat = $180.00 - $200.00
Misc Supplies = $150.00 - $200.00
Fuel = $100.00 - $150.00
Booze = $50.00 - $70.00
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yep I'm guessin with a fuzzy math factor worked in $900.00 - $1000.00 ish

O yeh and about $50.00 for side bets.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
11-18-2008, 12:13 PM
I would probably be in the $500.00 to $700.00 range. Gas, food, etc.. all adds up pretty quickly.
Sal

U2CANQUE
11-18-2008, 12:21 PM
Since there are nooooooooooooo local contests around Cleveland, it is usually a minimum of 3-4 hours drive, gas prices-ouch, contest entry-always try to get the early bird special, meat, extras, probably around 800 a contest.....most so far was 1100 due to going 8 hours hauling a trailer.......but, hey, I got a nice plaque......

BBQchef33
11-18-2008, 12:22 PM
Including fuel, figure about $1000 per contests for ones around here.




I still havent put up my AR/Jack post... one interesting part of that journey was those 3 contests with travel costs were upwards of $6-$7,000. Details to follow once i get off my ass and finish the post.

The Pickled Pig
11-18-2008, 12:25 PM
This year, excluding the Royal we spent $500-$600 for each contest (excluding booze). After taking prize money into account, we averaged a net expense of just $225 per contest. We split everything 3 ways for most contests and that comes out to just $75 each per contest.

CivilWarBBQ
11-18-2008, 12:51 PM
Usually about $800 for contests here in Georgia, up to $1000 if we have to leave the state depending on the current cost of diesel.

Bentley
11-18-2008, 11:36 PM
$600-$800 depending on gas and how long we have to rent the trailer! But that includes motel, my Mom and sister are on the team and they will not sleep on site. Mom is 82 an can still whip me so I do not balk!

KC_Bobby
11-18-2008, 11:38 PM
Avg comp cost before winnings - $602.89
Avg comp cost after winnings - $435.89

Nearly $100 per comp is just gas. We split costs 50/50.

ThomEmery
11-18-2008, 11:43 PM
About a grand

Alexa RnQ
11-18-2008, 11:51 PM
We do too freaking much driving. It's about a thousand bucks to pull out of the driveway.
Hell, going to the Jack we spent more than that in gas alone. http://www.divaherself.com/funny/blank.gif

Neal
11-19-2008, 12:02 AM
We work really hard to be really cheap.
$400 - $450 per contest if it's close. If we have to drive, add $50 - $100 to that.

Often times we will sell leftovers to offset the cost too...plus there are winnings to help too. We set up a checking acct last year. We used to split the cost for each contest, but now we are able to pay for contest costs out of the team's pocket, not our own.

Vince RnQ
11-19-2008, 12:03 AM
We do too freaking much driving. It's about a thousand bucks to pull out of the driveway.
Hell, going to the Jack we spent more than that in gas alone. http://www.divaherself.com/funny/blank.gif

Yeah, but those 3 GCs and Little Jack are priceless!

thenewguy
11-19-2008, 12:43 AM
Easily $500-$700 per contest.
I spent over $1k at the g.a.b.
Unfortunately, I don't have any "paying" contributors.

bbqdavarrow
11-19-2008, 07:03 AM
Lake Placid (6 Hour Drive) just the hotel was $700.00 !

and Westport (20 minute Drive) No Hotel but we had 17 guests that I had to feed which added about $300.00 to all of the regular costs (entry fees, meat etc)

CajunSmoker
11-19-2008, 07:14 AM
$600-$800 all out of MY pocket..


Ditto:!:

biggs98
11-19-2008, 11:11 AM
Our first comp was at Sayville and besides the entry fee we spent between 600-700. We bought a lot of stuff we are going to be able to use for our next one. We got lucky and someone we knew let us borrow a 10x20 tent with sidewalls. Considering the weather it was definatley the way to go.

lunchlady
11-19-2008, 11:17 AM
we run somewhere around $500 too (withOUT grilling categories)... before gas.
But we just got our first real sponsor, yea Pipefitter's Local 537!!!

Speaking of that...what about time off from work? That can be costly too.

This year I actually saved (and organized) ALL receipts from ALL contests... I have yet to add 'em up though... don't wanna do that until I have to, otherwise I may lose it.
But it won't stop us from competing, that's fer sure.

I really hate this thread :>

Sledneck
11-19-2008, 11:43 AM
I really hate this thread :> Me too :twisted:

Scottie
11-19-2008, 11:53 AM
This year I actually saved (and organized) ALL receipts from ALL contests... I have yet to add 'em up though... don't wanna do that until I have to, otherwise I may lose it.
But it won't stop us from competing, that's fer sure.

I really hate this thread :>



I keep all of mine in a 9 x 12 envelope.. It's rather full. I also got a credit card, just for BBQ charges. It's in my name, I just use it strickly for bbq stuff, so at the end of the year... I get that dreaded report that they give you. SO I get to see that I spent over $10k for gas. And over $150 in greens... And Sam's Club... Don't even want to know what I spent at Sam's... Maybe I will throw it out this yeaar... :twisted:

Bbq Bubba
11-19-2008, 11:56 AM
I keep all of mine in a 9 x 12 envelope.. It's rather full. I also got a credit card, just for BBQ charges. It's in my name, I just use it strickly for bbq stuff, so at the end of the year... I get that dreaded report that they give you. SO I get to see that I spent over $10k for gas. And over $150 in greens... And Sam's Club... Don't even want to know what I spent at Sam's... Maybe I will throw it out this yeaar... :twisted:

Does that include the JD purchases??? :cool:

Jorge
11-19-2008, 12:10 PM
I still havent put up my AR/Jack post... one interesting part of that journey was those 3 contests with travel costs were upwards of $6-$7,000. Details to follow once i get off my ass and finish the post.

I was thinking about that this morning, while I put that particular credit card statement someplace my better half wouldn't find it. Between gas, motel, cash, and other expenses I didn't want to explain it!

Scottie
11-19-2008, 12:10 PM
Sure... It's all part of my sauce making... :icon_blush:

I did just score a nice price on some Gentleman Jack down in Arizona... Fortunately, I had empty bags coming back home... :roll:

Fat Angel
11-19-2008, 12:22 PM
After initial expenses.

Each contest is usually $600- $800 depending on distance and how many friends and family are going to show up.

Going to Georgia in a rented RV was around $3500 total, but it was also week long vacation for 3 people.

It's like playing golf 30-40 times a year, with the difference being they dont have cash prizes when you do well.

HBMTN
11-19-2008, 12:22 PM
With all the expenses, how many cover a major portion of that by side catering or selling bbq? I would say I break even at least by doing that, but I guess that is money I would have in the bank if I did not go to competitions. I am thinking about selling pork dinners for the Super Bowl in Feb., say a 1 butt, side of mac and cheese, bbq baked beans, slaw, doz buns and 2 2ltr soda for a pregame meal. Sell it as one package is designed to feed 10 people and sell a package for $100-$125 and say if you buy a package you will be listed as a sponser for an event/competition next season or $200 for the package you get to be listed as a season sponser for 2009. Thoughts on this???

Bigmista
11-19-2008, 01:08 PM
If it's a regular contest, about $600 split 3 or four ways, depending on how many team members are there.

If we're allowed to sell samples to the public? 0. (Most of the time, we make money.)

QDoc
11-19-2008, 04:12 PM
$700+++

Smokin' Joe
11-19-2008, 04:20 PM
~$500 per...Its 100 miles or less to 12+ comps for us, helps keep the costs down:smile:

Rub
11-19-2008, 05:10 PM
$300 + Entry + Fuel.

GratefulSmoker
11-19-2008, 05:40 PM
$500 has been our average

QDoc
11-19-2008, 07:33 PM
Using data from the Pickled Pig, it looks like contestants spend about 6 million a year. Does anyone know what the yearly prize money payout total is? I'm beginning to wonder if I'm having $700 worth of fun.

Sidw
11-19-2008, 08:14 PM
$750 range

Pig Headed
11-19-2008, 08:22 PM
$500-$575 usually. Only once was it offset by prize money.

widespread
11-19-2008, 09:06 PM
$600 - $700 usually, unless we rent an RV.

JD McGee
11-19-2008, 09:10 PM
Depends on the event...if it's a local one day gig...around 150.00 - 200.00 bucks. If it's a a full blown KCBS sanctioned event...around 300.00 - 400.00

Big George's BBQ
11-20-2008, 07:06 AM
For those that cater on the side can 't you write the Comps off on your taxes

HBMTN
11-20-2008, 07:57 AM
>For those that cater on the side can 't you write the Comps off on your taxes

You don't have to cater to write it off. You are a pro bbq team out to win money by competing. Just like a pro baseball team. Everything you do related to bbq for competitions can be written off. If you cook pork at home them you were practicing. I plan to write off everything I do this year. I met a new friend at a competition who wrote off $25,000 in 2007.

Dale P
11-20-2008, 07:58 AM
The cost for our team is right around $750.
And I hate this thread too.

mds2
11-20-2008, 08:31 AM
>For those that cater on the side can 't you write the Comps off on your taxes

You don't have to cater to write it off. You are a pro bbq team out to win money by competing. Just like a pro baseball team. Everything you do related to bbq for competitions can be written off. If you cook pork at home them you were practicing. I plan to write off everything I do this year. I met a new friend at a competition who wrote off $25,000 in 2007.

I really need to start keeping track of stuff. I am going to do with for 2009.

QDoc
11-20-2008, 09:39 AM
>For those that cater on the side can 't you write the Comps off on your taxes

You don't have to cater to write it off. You are a pro bbq team out to win money by competing. Just like a pro baseball team. Everything you do related to bbq for competitions can be written off. If you cook pork at home them you were practicing. I plan to write off everything I do this year. I met a new friend at a competition who wrote off $25,000 in 2007.

You should consult your accountant.

Alexa RnQ
11-20-2008, 10:22 AM
You should consult your accountant.
Yes. Only your accountant can tell you how your BBQ winnings impact your particular taxable structure. Like the Vegas gambler who can offset his taxable winnings with the expense of his plane ticket to get there, you have to be declaring winnings for tax purposes in order to deduct the expenses that got you there.

We've filled out tax forms at a couple of comps we won at this past year, but only a couple required them. So unless you're keeping very good records, and can show a very good paper trail documenting income as well as outgo, that's a can of worms that an auditor would love to get in the middle of.

Scottie
11-20-2008, 10:30 AM
>You don't have to cater to write it off. You are a pro bbq team out to win money by competing. Just like a pro baseball team. Everything you do related to bbq for competitions can be written off. If you cook pork at home them you were practicing. I plan to write off everything I do this year. I met a new friend at a competition who wrote off $25,000 in 2007.

Good luck with that. So I want to ask you. You met a "new friend" at a contest. You are gouing to put your fate in the hands of someone you met at a BBQ contest?

FWIW all my friends here at my firm that are tax attorneys say differently.

And I have also had a nice year for winnings...

HBMTN
11-20-2008, 11:12 AM
You could be right Sottie, I am only going off what I have been told. I wonder if you could ask those tax attorneys if it is legal for any NASCAR Team to write off there expenses ( labor, engines, cars, travel, testing, ect ) before they pay taxes on the millions they make? If they say yes could they explain what the difference is?

Jorge
11-20-2008, 11:17 AM
You could be right Sottie, I am only going off what I have been told. I wonder if you could ask those tax attorneys if it is legal for any NASCAR Team to write off there expenses ( labor, engines, cars, travel, testing, ect ) before they pay taxes on the millions they make? If they say yes could they explain what the difference is?

In general? They can prove that they are a business. You have to prove that what you do, isn't a hobby.

Been there, done that with horses.

Scottie
11-20-2008, 11:47 AM
That's it in a nut-shell. You have to be a registered business. Trust me when I say that the bells and whistles start going off at the IRS when people start playing with "other income" on their taxes...

As with anything else, cash is always nice at a BBQ comp...

Horses?

Jorge
11-20-2008, 12:07 PM
Horses?

It's a great way to learn about how to spend a lot of money, not completely different from comp BBQ:lol:

Scottie
11-20-2008, 12:45 PM
Yeah, but BBQ don't like to bite and nip... Or buck you off... Can you tell I really like horses? :twisted: The best one's are the one's in the winners circles...

The_Kapn
11-20-2008, 05:54 PM
$300 + Entry + Fuel.

That's it for us also.

For several years we each kept track of "team" expenses and then split it up accordingly.
A real pain in the A**!
Plus, "Who buys and brings What" was always a potiential problem.

Now, I just provide all the comp needs for meat, spices, expendables, and etc. It was always was right at $300 anyway, so that is now standard.

Add in the entry fee and Brent and I have a standard "direct cost" for each event.
Easy Peasey.

Personal travel, lodging, eats, and drinks are an individual expense and it works out fine.

We normally are at $600 for "direct" costs with the high entry fees charged down here :twisted:

TIM

Bud's BBQ
11-27-2008, 07:11 AM
The $600 - $800 range is average for us with $4+ a gallon gas this summer. Also, the "Gentlemen Jack" budget for the 9:22 AM shot must be brought under control this season.

Hum, wonder if we can write that off :roll:

scottyd
11-27-2008, 09:36 AM
$1000 almost every contest, if I take my horse it is more so I leave him home.

VA BBQ PIRATES
11-27-2008, 12:04 PM
We're looking at about 600 to 800 each depending on gas and if we get a hotel Sat. night.

Tom