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Sledneck
10-29-2008, 10:22 AM
Call me crazy but in the article below the writer seems to be insulting a certain Massachusetts team that did real well at the Jack. Hmmmmmmmm I don't think any of us will be responding to this article:wink:

Here is the original (http://wdef.com/blog/apparently_the_south_doesnt_know_jack_about_bbq/10/2008), it has a comments section and I am sure we can find some more direct contact for the writer just in case we want to share some thoughts with him.:evil:



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Apparently, The South Doesn't Know Jack About BBQ

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Submitted by Collins Parker (http://wdef.com/user/24) on October 27, 2008 - 1:25pm
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Barbeque is a southern birthright.
It's hard to reach adulthood down here without taking sides in the great barbeque debate.
Do you prefer your Cue Carolina style (vinegar and slaw), Memphis style (pour on that sauce!) or Texas style (no sauce, just great grilling & smoking).
The folks up the road at Jack Daniels have been cashing in on Barbecue mania for the last 20 years with their annual competition.
Cooks from all over the world descend on Lynchburg to claim the prize.


But this weekend's results are a blow to southern pride.
Only one of the top 10 overall finishers come from below the Mason Dixon line (Virginia).
It's not like we didn't have competitors.
They came from Tennessee (2), Georgia (3), Virginia, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas & Louisiana.
But when it came to the best of the best in Lynchburg, a steakhouse in Kansas claimed the top prize.


Overall
1.4 Legs Up BBQ – Great Bend, Kan.
2.4 Mile Smokin’ Crew – Pleasant Hill, Iowa
3.Cool Smoke – Richmond, Va.
4.Butcher BBQ – Chandler, Okla.
5.lunchmeat – Rockland, Mass.
6.Smokers Wild – Paola, Kan.
7.Parrothead Smokers – Dakota Dunes, S.D.
8.Dizzy Pig – Fairfax, Va.
9.Bubba & Jeff’s BBQ – Lees Summit, Mo.
10. Carcass Cookers –Pueblo, Colo.


http://wdef.com/system/files/images/BBQ+cooking.img_assist_custom.jpg (http://wdef.com/)


Here's the best our regional entrants could do.
Bub-Ba-Q (http://www.hellonorthgeorgia.com/Restaurants/BBQ/Bub-Ba-Q.html) from Jasper, GA placed 3rd in pork ribs.
Ubon's BBQ (http://ubons.net/) in Yazoo, MS placed 2nd in pork shoulders.
Jack's Old South (http://www.jacksoldsouth.com/) in Vienna, GA placed 4th in beef brisket.
Smoky Mountain Smokers (http://www.smokymountainsmokers.com/) from Sevierville, TN placed 8th in brisket (and 18th overall).
EJ's Q from Athens, AL had the 2nd best sauce.
And the Dead End BBQ Society (http://www.ulikafoodblog.com/) from Knoxville, TN placed 9th in the dessert category.
http://wdef.com/system/files/images/BBQ+judging.img_assist_custom.jpg (http://wdef.com/)


I guess there is no shame in losing to teams from Kansas. Afterall, Kansas City is the fourth great school of Cue. But our southern competitors finished below teams from Iowa, Colorado, South Dakota and (gasp) Massachusetts!
Folks, this is a call to arms.
Obviously, state budget cuts to our higher education system are affecting the culinary arts!
Wine & Cheese have crept into our most sacred football tailgating traditions!
And Sushi is replacing the traditional Pork Plate.
What's next?
Would you buy your next pickup in France? Order a gun from Greenpeace? Or turn in your SEC team colors for a soccer team?
Well, that makes as much sense as getting your barbeque from Massachusetts.

Westexbbq
10-29-2008, 10:26 AM
Gasp?
Certainly is fodder for follow up is it not?

Podge
10-29-2008, 10:28 AM
oooooohh... i can't wait to e-mail this guy !!!

Sledneck
10-29-2008, 10:31 AM
He does mention a call to arms hehhehehehe

Bastey Boy
10-29-2008, 10:34 AM
Ooooohh, now I'm mad...now I'm REAL mad!

That guy's just jealous.

Go Lunchmeat!!

Rightstuff
10-29-2008, 10:36 AM
Being from the South, I can't help but laugh! But I'd hate to be this guy! GO GET HIM! (haha)

Fatback Joe
10-29-2008, 10:38 AM
If the guy knew anything about comps, he would have known to just blame the judges. :cool:

Jacked UP BBQ
10-29-2008, 10:38 AM
Tell this piece of chit, that the wood and pork in mass, is the same as in the south. Maybe the taste buds are just a little better in the north. Thanks for inviting the north, I am sure it gave them an education from partying to food.

Bbq Bubba
10-29-2008, 10:42 AM
If the guy knew anything about comps, he would have known to just blame the judges. :cool:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Podge
10-29-2008, 10:45 AM
well, i've sent in a response and i can't find where the responses go... Man, he's such a dumba$$..!!!! he ought to just go to Mass. and get the best BBQ he'll ever eat.

i also had to add in another comment about there's a McRib advertisement above his article, which he claims to be an expert on where BBQ should come from.

Jacked UP BBQ
10-29-2008, 10:47 AM
http://wdef.com/system/files/pictures/picture-24.jpg (http://wdef.com/user/24)
Look at me!
I had my head hair put on my face!

goodsmokebbq
10-29-2008, 10:51 AM
Hands down that brisket from Mass is better than anything this tool ever ate. Go lunchmeat! Just wait for next year, North East is coming up!

G$
10-29-2008, 10:53 AM
Guys, don't you think the article is a little tongue in cheek? Also, he is not disparaging the "Non Southern" teams, he is disparaging the poor showing of the good ole boys. Cut the guy some slack.

Sledneck
10-29-2008, 10:54 AM
well, i've sent in a response and i can't find where the responses go... Man, he's such a dumba$$..!!!! he ought to just go to Mass. and get the best BBQ he'll ever eat.

i also had to add in another comment about there's a McRib advertisement above his article, which he claims to be an expert on where BBQ should come from.
I bet they are screened before they are put up. Here a re a few places that comments could be sent http://www.wdef.com/node/7

Podge
10-29-2008, 11:00 AM
Guys, don't you think the article is a little tongue in cheek? Also, he is not disparaging the "Non Southern" teams, he is disparaging the poor showing of the good ole boys. Cut the guy some slack.

well, I looked at this article light-heartedly until i saw this:

"Would you buy your next pickup in France? Order a gun from Greenpeace? Or turn in your SEC team colors for a soccer team?
Well, that makes as much sense as getting your barbeque from Massachusetts"

The Giggler
10-29-2008, 11:06 AM
well, I looked at this article light-heartedly until i saw this:

"Would you buy your next pickup in France? Order a gun from Greenpeace? Or turn in your SEC team colors for a soccer team?
Well, that makes as much sense as getting your barbeque from Massachusetts"


Agreed. Fark this guy.

Plowboy
10-29-2008, 11:10 AM
If he's going to disparage Northern BBQ, then he needs to also disparage BBQ made by white people. I love this dialog from Barbership 2...

Terri (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1073992/): If Tony Roma can make ribs better than Black people, Isaac can own a Black barbershop...
Calvin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001084/): Wait a minute...”ribs better than Black people?"
Jimmy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0859503/): Tony Roma boils his ribs! That is *not* authentic!
Dinka (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1120315/): Tony Roma is delicious! I don't see White or Black... I just see red sauce on everyt'ing!

Alexa RnQ
10-29-2008, 11:11 AM
Well, bless his heart.

Those from the South know the tone of voice that makes that phrase translate as "**** you".

Jorge
10-29-2008, 11:12 AM
Well, bless his heart.

Those from the South know the tone of voice that makes that phrase translate as "**** you".

Now THAT, was funny!

jdub
10-29-2008, 11:26 AM
moved to Tennessee, lived in Georgia , now I am in New Hampshire (and love it).
I'm not sure where I fall on this one.
Fightin words over politics, sure. Fightin over football teams, a little out of hand but I get it.
Fightin words over Q-insane.

(Psst, hey Southern boys. Get yer fannies out in the backyard and get to practicin! You don't even have to snowshovel your way to the smoker.)

Hey guys, if it makes you feel any better, these guys still put so much sugar in their cornbread it tastes like dessert!

Bentley
10-29-2008, 11:26 AM
How bright can this guy be?

But this weekend's results are a blow to southern pride.
Only one of the top 10 overall finishers come from below the Mason Dixon line (Virginia).
It's not like we didn't have competitors.
They came from Tennessee (2), Georgia (3), Virginia, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas & Louisiana.
But when it came to the best of the best in Lynchburg, a steakhouse in Kansas claimed the top prize.


Overall
1.4 Legs Up BBQ – Great Bend, Kan.
2.4 Mile Smokin’ Crew – Pleasant Hill, Iowa
3.Cool Smoke – Richmond, Va.
4.Butcher BBQ – Chandler, Okla.
5.lunchmeat – Rockland, Mass.
6.Smokers Wild – Paola, Kan.
7.Parrothead Smokers – Dakota Dunes, S.D.
8.Dizzy Pig – Fairfax, Va.
9.Bubba & Jeff’s BBQ – Lees Summit, Mo.
10. Carcass Cookers –Pueblo, Colo.


Geez, have an other shot there Mr. writer. I guess if you are from Fairfax, VA you are a northener!

I believe the Mason-Dixon line is between Maryland and Pennsylvinna, but maybe I have forgotten my History.

KC_Bobby
10-29-2008, 11:30 AM
Sour grapes. Those from the north should take that as a compliment. Keep in mind, my opinion isn't worth much - it's only an opinion from someone located in the 4th great school of Q. (In which I would consider 4 of the top 10 Jack finishers to be from, yes, I'm including 4 Mile Fred, he's closer to KC then Great Bend)

Plowboy
10-29-2008, 11:33 AM
How bright can this guy be?

But this weekend's results are a blow to southern pride.
Only one of the top 10 overall finishers come from below the Mason Dixon line (Virginia).
It's not like we didn't have competitors.
They came from Tennessee (2), Georgia (3), Virginia, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas & Louisiana.
But when it came to the best of the best in Lynchburg, a steakhouse in Kansas claimed the top prize.


Overall
1.4 Legs Up BBQ – Great Bend, Kan.
2.4 Mile Smokin’ Crew – Pleasant Hill, Iowa
3.Cool Smoke – Richmond, Va.
4.Butcher BBQ – Chandler, Okla.
5.lunchmeat – Rockland, Mass.
6.Smokers Wild – Paola, Kan.
7.Parrothead Smokers – Dakota Dunes, S.D.
8.Dizzy Pig – Fairfax, Va.
9.Bubba & Jeff’s BBQ – Lees Summit, Mo.
10. Carcass Cookers –Pueblo, Colo.


Geez, have an other shot there Mr. writer. I guess if you are from Fairfax, VA you are a northener!

I believe the Mason-Dixon line is between Maryland and Pennsylvinna, but maybe I have forgotten my History.

MO was Confederate state and thus symbolically below the Mason Dixon line.

Cue's Your Daddy
10-29-2008, 11:37 AM
What gonna happen if Penn State wins the national Championship?

Podge
10-29-2008, 11:41 AM
What gonna happen if Penn State wins the national Championship?

well, then Penn State will be the National Champions.

Jorge
10-29-2008, 11:42 AM
What gonna happen if Penn State wins the national Championship?

You might want to get that cart back behind the horse, at least for a little bit:wink:

KC_Bobby
10-29-2008, 11:42 AM
Technically Missouri was a border/dual government state: (that said, I agree that it's culture is more representitive of Southern culture compared to Northern)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_in_the_American_Civil_War
Missouri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri) in the Civil War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War) was a border state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_states_(Civil_War)) that sent men, generals, and supplies to both opposing sides, had its star on both flags, had state governments representing each side, and endured a neighbor-against-neighbor intrastate war within the larger national war.
By the end of the Civil War, Missouri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri) had supplied nearly 110,000 troops for the Union Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army) and about 40,000 troops for the Confederate Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Army). There were battles and skirmishes in all areas of the state, from the Iowa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa) and Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois) border in the northeast to the edge of the state in the southeast and southwest on the Arkansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas) border. Counting minor engagements, actions and skirmishes, Missouri saw over 1,200 distinct fights. Only Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia) and Tennessee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee) exceeded Missouri in the number of clashes within the state boundaries.
The biggest battle in the war west of the Mississippi River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River) was the Battle of Westport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Westport) at Kansas City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City,_Missouri) in 1864.

CaptTable
10-29-2008, 11:58 AM
Hey, Podge!

The way you are getting upset over this, it's a good thing you've got the "invisible fence" to hold you back!!:biggrin:

Phillip

Cue's Your Daddy
10-29-2008, 12:17 PM
I said "IF"......

Cabntmkr1
10-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Technically Missouri was a border/dual government state: (that said, I agree that it's culture is more representitive of Southern culture compared to Northern)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_in_the_American_Civil_War
Missouri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri) in the Civil War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War) was a border state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_states_(Civil_War)) that sent men, generals, and supplies to both opposing sides, had its star on both flags, had state governments representing each side, and endured a neighbor-against-neighbor intrastate war within the larger national war.
By the end of the Civil War, Missouri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri) had supplied nearly 110,000 troops for the Union Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army) and about 40,000 troops for the Confederate Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Army). There were battles and skirmishes in all areas of the state, from the Iowa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa) and Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois) border in the northeast to the edge of the state in the southeast and southwest on the Arkansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas) border. Counting minor engagements, actions and skirmishes, Missouri saw over 1,200 distinct fights. Only Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia) and Tennessee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee) exceeded Missouri in the number of clashes within the state boundaries.
The biggest battle in the war west of the Mississippi River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River) was the Battle of Westport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Westport) at Kansas City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City,_Missouri) in 1864.
And if you want to get technically technical...:lol:
The OFFICIAL Missouri government was pro-South, but was ruled to be
illegal by the U. S. government, which implanted it's own rulership in Missouri when they voted to join the South. NTTAWWT:mrgreen:

Rightstuff
10-29-2008, 12:31 PM
Hey cut the guy some slack; he must know good que. He's from Sieverville, TN and they have a Famous Dave's BBQ there.

swamprb
10-29-2008, 12:40 PM
Good thing he didn't try to offend us Northwest teams!! I'd probably agree with him! Dances with Smoke 6th Place Brisket was the only call we got.

Podge
10-29-2008, 12:54 PM
Hey, Podge!

The way you are getting upset over this, it's a good thing you've got the "invisible fence" to hold you back!!:biggrin:

Phillip

I've been cranky lately:roll:.. nothing to do for 6 months !

Scottie
10-29-2008, 12:57 PM
Florida I hear is nice... :roll:

MrsBigBarry
10-29-2008, 01:00 PM
Looks to me like he's either ignorant or just trying to be funny but failed to think about his potential reading audience. :icon_bugeyed

Big Mike
10-29-2008, 01:18 PM
I've been cranky lately:roll:.. nothing to do for 6 months !


You can come hang out. I've got some nice Single Barrel Kentucky Bourbon and Cigars.

CaptTable
10-29-2008, 02:10 PM
Mike, you DID NOT say Kentucky bourbon did you?!?!?!

Would have thought that you would at least drink some of our product from here in Lynchburg. We didn't convert you?:lol:

Phillip

Scottie
10-29-2008, 02:14 PM
It's sad isn't it... :roll:

CaptTable
10-29-2008, 02:25 PM
Rookie!!!!!!!!!

Jorge
10-29-2008, 02:28 PM
.o0O(over/under on how long it takes Scottie to mention his beloved Sun Drop....2 posts)

CaptTable
10-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Jorge,

I can't say anything . . . I've got a Sundrop here on my desk as we "speak". Gotta have it!

Phillip

Podge
10-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Mike, you DID NOT say Kentucky bourbon did you?!?!?!

Would have thought that you would at least drink some of our product from here in Lynchburg. We didn't convert you?:lol:

Phillip

you know me, i was very easily converted. Maybe when a bourbon company starts producing a great BBQ contest, I might drink some.

Scottie
10-29-2008, 02:36 PM
Ah... Now you are making me thirsty...

When I was coming home from Gallatin. I stopped off at the store to purchase some for tyhe long winter that we have up north... I felt like I had reached nirvana, when I saw all of it on the shelf. Only thing better would of been if they had the moon pies and RC cola all inthe same spot with Jack... Now that would of been a picture!!!

How's that Geo? I never even mentioned it!!! So does that count??!!!

Scottie
10-29-2008, 02:37 PM
Jorge,

I can't say anything . . . I've got a Sundrop here on my desk as we "speak". Gotta have it!

Phillip


Oh sure.. Just rub it in that I don't have any work. I have about 20 cases at home... Little good that is doing me now...

arlieque
10-29-2008, 03:00 PM
email the station at:

Dutch Terry
News Director
WDEF News 12
dterry@wdef.com

lunchlady
10-29-2008, 03:10 PM
wow... just... wow. i can't even think of anything coherent to say.

thanks for the kind words you guys. We still brought that trophy home with us.
I was thinking it was toungue in cheek, and I am the one that cuts the MOST slack, but DAMN... I even had a Sundrop with my Sunday dinner special at the Iron Kettle before we hit the road...JACK.

makes me wanna go ...

HI DEE HO!!!! and BAAHHHHH BE QUE !!!!!

I bet Sully's 'call' hits the cutting room floor too. But, hey, it's all good and we've got pictures to prove it.

p.s. I hope Gary doesn't see this... he'll start posting and then we're ALL in trouble.

Big Mike
10-29-2008, 03:55 PM
Mike, you DID NOT say Kentucky bourbon did you?!?!?!

Would have thought that you would at least drink some of our product from here in Lynchburg. We didn't convert you?:lol:

Phillip

Did I say Kentucky Bourbon.:eek: I meant fine Tennessee Whiskey!!:biggrin:

Muzzlebrake
10-29-2008, 08:23 PM
I understand this dude completely. I mean how would we feel is someone from say Mississippi came to NY and won a pizza or bagel cooking contest? Or how about a team from Louisiana that won a lobstah roll contest?

and having competed against some of those Mass teams for a while now, I think you guys should just sit back and gloat a little seems to me you hit a nerve

and just to show the depth of his knowledge, while the SEC may not be known for soccer, there sure are some southern powerhouses both men and women in the ACC.

NotleyQue
10-29-2008, 09:16 PM
Now that was funny.






http://wdef.com/system/files/pictures/picture-24.jpg (http://wdef.com/user/24)
Look at me!
I had my head hair put on my face!

Gowan
10-30-2008, 12:44 AM
Uh oh! I hope this feller didn't get you Yankees too riled up again - the last time y'all came down South to show us how to barbecue Atlanta done burned up!

(It's a joking piece folks. Don't get all lathered up.)

Coz
10-30-2008, 05:56 PM
Send that corksucker up here for a week.I will cuff him to Billy:eek: then send his nasty lil arse back to his mama see how how he likes us northern boys Que then.

scottyd
10-31-2008, 09:55 AM
You guys are all mad I am from south dakota I am pissed. END OF STORY. forgive me but I have not read all the posts here just the few in the first page. I am pissed. all of us northern, western, north eastern, WTF. Rib boiling .

WannaBeBBQueen
10-31-2008, 10:01 AM
it is nice to see that they are posting our comments:mrgreen:

Wayne
10-31-2008, 11:02 PM
Guffaw, guffaw, guffaw! What a great blog. I personally think that BBQ is for everybody and from everywhere. In fact I have BBQ'd on 3 continents and it all tasted good. As for the battle over which type is best. All I have to say is that there ain't no best, but there is a lot of really good 'Q wherever the pit master takes pride in the product. In fact I like to try different types of BBQ just for fun because it "enlarges my mind." *

I would only recommend sending this guy a reply only if you can match his tongue in cheek.

* Joseph Conrad from The Heart of Darkness.

Brauma
10-31-2008, 11:21 PM
Fark that guy. I'm proud to say that a fuzzy blue hat wearing farker from Lon Gisland taught me how to Q. Who wouldve thunk it.

WannaBeBBQueen
11-01-2008, 08:12 AM
fuzzy blue hatThree cheers for the fuzzy blue hat

WannaBeBBQueen
11-01-2008, 08:31 AM
p.s. I hope Gary doesn't see this... he'll start posting and then we're ALL in trouble.

too late:eusa_clap...go gettum Gary!!:biggrin:

BBQ Bandit
11-01-2008, 09:32 AM
Three cheers for the fuzzy blue hat

Blue fuzzy hat got my vote... inspired the viking hat @ Sayville.
:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen: