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BBQSMYBFF
10-14-2008, 12:12 PM
i have been pondering this for a long time and it seems that if there is a fish category that a lot of people, most people, and sometimes all people do salmon..

i know there must be some people out there who enjoy it but why is what i am asking.

living on the shore and fishing my entire life my diet is based around seafood.

i will eat just about anything from the sea but i refuse to eat salmon. it has horrible oils and taste like a nasty fish if that makes sense.

i have tried it smoked, broiled, baked, fried, and any other way you could think of having it. i have had it brined, rubbed, and all the alike.


my question to you is why do you use salmon in competition!?!?

if i was a judge and someone served me salmon i could not even eat it. and i am not joking with that. i could not even try it as it is so foul to my taste buds.

any input would be great.. thank

MrsBigBarry
10-14-2008, 12:16 PM
Different taste buds. Salmon is one of my favorite fish.

I don't understand how people can eat peppers - green/red/yellow/orange. The smell of them makes me nauseous, but yet many other people love them. :-?

Jaybird
10-14-2008, 01:05 PM
Yep, different strokes for different folks.
I hate Salmon and love them peppers.

BBQchef33
10-14-2008, 01:11 PM
wow..

salmon is one of the few fishes I CAN eat... sweetness and firmness is what makes it palatable to me. I feel the way you do about many others of the flaky type seafoods. Im ok with all shellfish, and firm steak type fish(sword, tuna, etc) but put orangy roughy in front of me and I go for the salad. Guess its just the tastes buds.

Countryhb
10-14-2008, 01:14 PM
Salmon is DA BOMB!! Are you just getting nasty salmon? I'll put Copper River Salmon up against any other fish out there...there ain't none better!

Jorge
10-14-2008, 01:17 PM
i have been pondering this for a long time and it seems that if there is a fish category that a lot of people, most people, and sometimes all people do salmon..

i know there must be some people out there who enjoy it but why is what i am asking.

living on the shore and fishing my entire life my diet is based around seafood.

i will eat just about anything from the sea but i refuse to eat salmon. it has horrible oils and taste like a nasty fish if that makes sense.

i have tried it smoked, broiled, baked, fried, and any other way you could think of having it. i have had it brined, rubbed, and all the alike.


my question to you is why do you use salmon in competition!?!?

if i was a judge and someone served me salmon i could not even eat it. and i am not joking with that. i could not even try it as it is so foul to my taste buds.

any input would be great.. thank

I like Salmon, for the one primary reason that you seem to despise. The oils. It's a source of flavor and makes Salmon a little more forgiving when you cook it.

As for your comment about judging....If you aren't prepared to taste everything, and give it a fair shot then judging isn't for you. Not a slam, just a statement of fact. There are a lot of dishes, and a lot of flavors that I'd prefer not to taste....but if I sign up to judge I'm obligated to do just that and give the cook a fair shot. Fair is fair.

Alexa RnQ
10-14-2008, 01:21 PM
There's only two things that smell like fish...
and one of them's fish. http://www.divaherself.com/funny/blank.gif
Bell peppers aren't much better.


There's a reason why I'm not a judge :-P

CivilWarBBQ
10-14-2008, 01:44 PM
I see that BBQSMYBFF is from New Jersey. It's possible that you've never tasted fresh Pacific salmon. Steelhead, Sockeye and King are some of the finest fish species available anywhere!

And I definitely agree that you should recuse yourself from judging any category where you are unable to fairly judge ALL entries. We turned in a beautiful smoked Salmon in an Anything Butt contest earlier this year that garnered all 8s and 9s from five of the judges in taste, but the sixth gave us a THREE. It is very disappointing to a cook team to see a judge display that kind of personal preference on the score card. If you don't like something fine, don't eat it OR judge it!

bbq lover
10-14-2008, 02:27 PM
i like salmon and heck the bears eat it and grow up to be and stronge .. cant be that bad lol

JD McGee
10-14-2008, 02:41 PM
Try it grilled over alderwood...you'll understand! :-P Or better yet...cedar planked with a little Dizzy Pig "Ragin' River"...

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Bentley
10-14-2008, 03:06 PM
living on the shore and fishing my entire life my diet is based around seafood.

it has horrible oils and taste like a nasty fish if that makes sense.

if i was a judge and someone served me salmon i could not even eat it. and i am not joking with that. i could not even try it as it is so foul to my taste buds.




Redemption, after 49 years, a person that likes fish that thinks it is a nasty fish too...Amen!

Edit: Did not see the judge comments...Just to add my 2 cents on that, I would judge it, my problem as a judge trying salmon would be...It could be the best piece of salmon in the world and I would not know it, it taste nasty to me, that is where the team would get hurt. In a case like that I try and err on the high scoring side. Is that right, wrong or there is no right answer?

What do other judges think?

big brother smoke
10-14-2008, 03:21 PM
I loves me some wild salmon. Stop eating that farm raised test tube fish, lol!

And if you have I feel for you for not having the palatte for it. Has great oils for the heart.

CivilWarBBQ
10-14-2008, 03:55 PM
Edit: Did not see the judge comments...Just to add my 2 cents on that, I would judge it, my problem as a judge trying salmon would be...It could be the best piece of salmon in the world and I would not know it, it taste nasty to me, that is where the team would get hurt. In a case like that I try and err on the high scoring side. Is that right, wrong or there is no right answer?

What do other judges think?

As I posted above, I think the only fair thing to do is to excuse yourself from judging any category that may contain an item you will not eat. That includes both foods that you can't stand the taste of and foods you are allergic to. Yes, it's a drag for you not to be able to judge Anything But just because you might encounter a salmon entry, but it is the only way to be fair to the cook teams.

I am a judge who isn't thrilled with the flavor of liver. However if I am presented with an entry containing foie gras for example I will make every effort to judge the dish fairly without allowing my own personal taste to bias my scores. If I discovered I had an allergy to peanuts I would remove myself from judging the dessert category.

Of course that's just my opinion. This is probably a good topic for Phillip or one of the other Reps to chime in on for the official KCBS policy.

Countryhb
10-14-2008, 04:15 PM
There's only two things that smell like fish...
and one of them's fish. http://www.divaherself.com/funny/blank.gif :-P
If either of the two smell like fish, they aren't fresh...run away!!

Seriously, I'm not a big fish fan, but I'm crazy for salmon. Big Bro Smoke and I were prepping salmon for a recent event and I opened a piece that smelled like fish. Without even examining it, I could tell there was something wrong with it. Sure enough, bloodline wasn't completely removed. If salmon is fresh, there is no smell to it.

Bentley
10-14-2008, 04:58 PM
As I posted above, I think the only fair thing to do is to excuse yourself from judging any category that may contain an item you will not eat.


My point was not that I would not eat it, just that I woould not know well prepared salmon to non-well prepared salmon.

And no, I am not going to step away from the judging table based on what someone might turn in, you roll the dice with your AB entry, if you think it maybe something that the main stream does not like, you better think twice about entering it!

RichardF
10-14-2008, 05:17 PM
I have no love for salmon either. If forced to I'll eat it, and yes there are various degrees of bad from not so bad to really bad. And for those wondering, it's not just because I've only had bad salmon, I've eaten some of the best. I also can cook salmon that folks rave about, but I don't eat it too often. The only way I like salmon is smoked, preferably from HERE (http://www.russanddaughters.com/):wink:

Rickwieser
10-14-2008, 06:53 PM
living in the midwest where salmon has to be flown in makes it a special occasion fish for us. My wife dearly loves her salmon. The fact that you are on the coast and its readily available to you may have a little to do with it. My wife wont eat crappie, catfish or bass. All three are readily available whenever I go fish. but she sure loves salmon go figure. Maybe its the way I cook it that makes her love it. Maybe its the irish cream sauce i put on it.( i could throw the fish away and eat the sauce) But im thinkin we love what we cant have.

rookiedad
10-14-2008, 08:26 PM
i think the mainstream pretty much likes salmon. if you would not know well prepared salmon from non-well prepared salmon, how do you feel you would be able to judge it fairly?

Big George's BBQ
10-14-2008, 08:34 PM
Salmon is awesome. I have smoked some Salmon that is out oif sight. Salmon cream cheese and bagles- a great way to start the day

Coz
10-14-2008, 08:48 PM
I have heard all the arguments about alaskan salmon washington salmon etc but I still think the Great Lakes salmon is just as good.I just hope I get to fish more often next summer.

CivilWarBBQ
10-14-2008, 09:00 PM
My point was not that I would not eat it, just that I woould not know well prepared salmon to non-well prepared salmon.

And no, I am not going to step away from the judging table based on what someone might turn in, you roll the dice with your AB entry, if you think it maybe something that the main stream does not like, you better think twice about entering it!

We're not talking about crickets or pigeon gizzards here, but the third most popular fish sold in the United States (after tuna and shrimp). http://www.iser.uaa.alaska.edu/Publications/greatsalmonrun/SalmonReport_Ch_8.pdf

If you consider such an item "outside the mainstream" then IMO you really shouldn't be judging an open category like Anything But. Since there are usually more judges than entries in such ancillary categories, it should be no problem for the judging coordinator to fill your seat with someone who can properly judge such an entry, and you can stick to the primary meat categories where the entries are more predictable.

BBQ Grail
10-14-2008, 09:23 PM
I'll eat salmon just about any way I can get.

Forney
10-14-2008, 09:28 PM
I don't know... As a kid I was forced to eat salmon patties, bones and all... I don't even like to look at it now. Salmon patties and lima beans for dinner alway made for a long long night...

peculiarmike
10-14-2008, 09:43 PM
I like salmon and I like peppers, about any type, except maybe a Bhut Jolokia :shock: :eek:.
I don't care for cooked cabbage. I like kraut, slaw, etc.
Everyone has something they don't like to eat.

Bentley
10-14-2008, 11:12 PM
We're not talking about crickets or pigeon gizzards here, but the third most popular fish sold in the United States (after tuna and shrimp). http://www.iser.uaa.alaska.edu/Publications/greatsalmonrun/SalmonReport_Ch_8.pdf

If you consider such an item "outside the mainstream" then IMO you really shouldn't be judging an open category like Anything But. Since there are usually more judges than entries in such ancillary categories, it should be no problem for the judging coordinator to fill your seat with someone who can properly judge such an entry, and you can stick to the primary meat categories where the entries are more predictable.

You keep entering Salmon in your AB and I will keep judging!

TOPS BBQ
10-15-2008, 12:42 AM
I love Salmon! I also love just about any other fish/crustation as well.

Bentley - After some of your posts about unfair or unreasonable scores at competitions, wouldn't it be best that you stepped away from the judges table when a dish you know you don't like arrived? If you were allergic to fish and someone turned in fish, are you going to DQ them because you couldn't eat it? This is AB, just let it go.

Dr_KY
10-15-2008, 02:59 AM
any input would be great.. thank


Go on just open wide here comes the train and it wants to go into the station Chooooo-Chooooooooooooo..

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Dale P
10-15-2008, 03:03 AM
Cooked right Salmon is great! Looks good Doc!

Big George's BBQ
10-15-2008, 06:53 AM
That piece of Salmon looked great. I pretty much just like fish

CajunSmoker
10-15-2008, 07:27 AM
I like most types of fish and Salmon is OK as long as I have plenty of dill sauce.

If I were judging I would judge whatever is put in front of me to the best of my ability. Don't have to like it, just have to judge it.

Rickwieser
10-15-2008, 09:00 AM
I don't know... As a kid I was forced to eat salmon patties, bones and all... I don't even like to look at it now. Salmon patties and lima beans for dinner alway made for a long long night...
took me a long time to get over that too. Hated the dang things and mom made em alot. It was a only a few years ago that I finally got the courage up to try GOOD salmon. To this day i think i would barf if i had to eat a salmon patty.

BBQSMYBFF
10-15-2008, 10:02 AM
let me first start off by saying that you to everyone for your input on this topic.

i am not a judge and do not plan to judge in the future.. but if i did i would def give it a good taste and i would judge it and score it accordingly. i like to think i have a very advanced pallate and also i have a very good sence of fish.

i have eaten many different types of salmon and i wonder what everone cooks..

i can call myself a hipocrite i guess since i chew on cream cheese and lox on a more than weekly basis and also eat philadelphia rolls at my local sushia house!! :lol::lol:

i have tried the pacific northwest, the freshwater, the saltwater, the sockeye, the coho, the every kind of salmon you can think of and it just doesnt do me any justice.. while i was growing up my mother ate this stuff poached!!! :eek::eek:

i have tried it so many times and i just cant get the taste for it at all.

what i would like to bring up to the forumn here since i know this is the place for it..


what kind of salmon do you prefer to smoke!?
how do you get it?! (filet, whole, headed/gutted)!?
rub it or brine it?!?
what kind of wood?!
what temp?!?
how long?!/

anything else that might change my mind.. i am goign to get a piece and mayeb try it this weekend but need a little learnin!!

help a brotha out!!

thanks guys and gals!

Bentley
10-15-2008, 01:19 PM
IBentley - After some of your posts about unfair or unreasonable scores at competitions, wouldn't it be best that you stepped away from the judges table when a dish you know you don't like arrived? If you were allergic to fish and someone turned in fish, are you going to DQ them because you couldn't eat it? This is AB, just let it go.

I dont ever think I said they were unfair, just that I did not understand where the judges learned the criteria they were applying.

After thinking about your and CivilWars post, it probably would be wise to step aside for a Salmon entry. I have judged for several years Robert, and I do not believe we have a pool of waiting back up judges once a contest starts. Maybe they do in other parts of the country. I will ask the next time I judge and an entry question like this arises. If I can recluse myself from the entry I will be happy to do so. Do I think they will get an other judge to score it, no. I do not know if the entry would then get 5 scores and not 6 or 5 scores and a 1? You are going to throw the low score out anyway.

As I said eariler, I tend to favor the team if it is an entry I have difficulty knowing what excellence is in that food. Clovis 2007 was an example, a team turned in a beautiful Salmon entry. They turned in a whole fish, with cucumbers as the scales. I gave it a 9 for apperance, the meat seemed to me to be firm, but tender (I am not sure exactly what perfect textured salmon should taste like) gave it an 8 on texture, where I had the problem was taste, like I said I would not know good salmone form bad. I gave it a 7, could it have been a 9...? Am I going to give a team a 3 because I do not like the taste of salmon, no, but next time I will ask the rep to be excluded and the team can receive no score. It appears that is what you to feel I should do?

As far as not judging any AB because there might be Salmon or some other entry I do not like...Well I appreciate both your opinions, but dont hold your breath for that to happen!

Bigmista
10-15-2008, 03:30 PM
There's only two things that smell like fish...
and one of them's fish. http://www.divaherself.com/funny/blank.gif


That is especially funny coming from you!:eek::biggrin::eek::biggrin: