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Divemaster
04-21-2008, 09:30 AM
Iíve been hearing that a number of competitions are having a tougher time getting teams this year.

Have you cut back on the number your team is going to and if so, why?

Bigmista
04-21-2008, 09:33 AM
There aren't THAT many contests in So Cal. We're doing all of them. Brings our total to 7 if you include our non-sanctioned backyard contest.

Sledneck
04-21-2008, 09:37 AM
Between bbq, grilling & chili I am doing 10. My busiest year ever

Roo-B-Q'N
04-21-2008, 09:40 AM
We set a schedule that we would have liked to have done failry early on, it was up around 8 I believe. Then a key employee quiet on us so we scaled back to local contests. One of the new contests has already cancelled theirs as has an older one, so if we just do the ones close to us and they don't cancel, it will be the same number as last year 6.

We have a meat sponsor that only asks that we fly his logo. We buy meat from him outside of comps, and have turned several individuals and resturants on to him. So while meat is a consideration, it is not a deciding factor for us. Gas on the other hand, that could be a determining factor.

Good question you have going here, I will be interested to see how it all shakes out.

Fatback Joe
04-21-2008, 09:52 AM
This has been my 1st year competing, so nothing to compare it to. Have done 3 so far, with 3 more planned..........but if the price of gas keeps going like it is, it will probably be less next year.

Smokin Gator
04-21-2008, 09:53 AM
Like Joe, I have only not been competing that long, so this coming year I will do more than last year. However, the cost of entry fees for FBA is a killer!! After this coming year I will reevaluate.

Fredbird
04-21-2008, 09:57 AM
We are planning on competing in 8 or 9 contests this year. Last year we did 12 contests and it took too much time from other things.

Fatback Joe
04-21-2008, 09:59 AM
Like Joe, I have only not been competing that long, so this coming year I will do more than last year. However, the cost of entry fees for FBA is a killer!! After this coming year I will reevaluate.

Yeah, $260 for Tavares felt like a bargain compared to the others :shock:

Sledneck
04-21-2008, 10:23 AM
Like Joe, I have only not been competing that long, so this coming year I will do more than last year. However, the cost of entry fees for FBA is a killer!! After this coming year I will reevaluate.
What do you consider killer?

Scottie
04-21-2008, 10:23 AM
I think that the reason that some competitions are having a hard time filling up are a number of reasons. Gas should not be one of them. The main reasons are low payouts. A contest is not going to survive where it's expected of the teams to cover the purse and the expenses of the contests. I also see contests that don't get better from year one to hear two and that is a doomed contest as well. Lastly, there are more contests now than ever. There is now going to be competition amongst the contests to get cooks to want to go to their contest. I know we are having more and more conflicts in the schedule for contests going up against one another in the upper Midwest.

Scottie

Ron_L
04-21-2008, 10:47 AM
We're trying to stay with a couple hours from home. That gives us 6 to 8 competitions that we can do and we're going to try to hit all of them.

Smokin Gator
04-21-2008, 10:47 AM
What do you consider killer?

Well... I guess it is all relative, but most FBA contests are $250+ with a couple of them being $300+. It seems like a lot when I see KCBS for much less. Then again, maybe I am just uniformed/cheap!!

Sledneck
04-21-2008, 10:53 AM
Well... I guess it is all relative, but most FBA contests are $250+ with a couple of them being $300+. It seems like a lot when I see KCBS for much less. Then again, maybe I am just uniformed/cheap!!
$250 seems to be the average for a KCBS. Does FbA have good payouts? This past weekend in Salisbury the entry fee was $250 but they had 17K in prize money. Each category had a $1000 for first place.

Smokin Gator
04-21-2008, 11:02 AM
I would say that most are $500 per category and pay top five. GCs seem to be $1500-2000.

Sledneck
04-21-2008, 11:14 AM
I would say that most are $500 per category and pay top five. GCs seem to be $1500-2000.That is in line with most KCBS then.

MoKanMeathead
04-21-2008, 11:14 AM
$250 seems to be the average for a KCBS.

That is high for the KCBS contests around the MO/KS areas. Around here the average is $150 to $175 - especially if you take out the American Royal.

Smokin Gator
04-21-2008, 11:15 AM
That is high for the KCBS contests around the MO/KS areas. Around here the average is $150 to $175 - especially if you take out the American Royal.

That is what I thought...

KC_Bobby
04-21-2008, 11:43 AM
Going from five on 2007 to eight in 2008:

05/16 - Osage River Bottoms BBQ & Blues Festival (http://www.boondogglebbq.com/events.php?year=2008&month=05&id=1145) Warsaw, MO
06/27 - Crossroad BBQ Cookoff (http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2008&month=06&id=1144) Cameron, MO
07/18 - BBQ’Loo & Blues Too (http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2008&month=07&id=1094) Waterloo, IA
07/19 - BBQ in the Park (http://www.boondogglebbq.com/events.php?year=2008&month=07&id=1366) La Porte City, IA (that's right, a doubleheader weekend)
08/01 - 10th Annual Lynch Livestock Pig Stampede (http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2008&month=08&id=1284) Waucoma, IA
08/22 - Nevada Kiwanis Club Barbecue (http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2008&month=08&id=1307) Nevada, IA
09/19 - Jesse James Barbeque Cookout (http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2008&month=09&id=1239) Kearney, MO
10/04 - 29th Annual American Royal BBQ (http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2007&month=10&id=820) Kansas City, MO

Sledneck
04-21-2008, 11:43 AM
Come up to williepolooza t (http://williepallooza.blogspot.com/)hen, Only $125 entry fee, best trophy ever, as well as probably the best time of you life at a contest

Bearbonez
04-21-2008, 12:41 PM
Until the housing market gets moving again, I will only be doing a couple a year. Construction has slowed down quite a bit.

butts a fire
04-21-2008, 12:48 PM
We are only doing 3 this year and have done 4 each of the last two years so I guess you could say we are cutting back.

For us this is mainly due to my wife being pregnant and due in sept. so she won't be able to do the ones during the hot months comfortably and money and time off of work is also a consideration since we will have a new baby on the way.

We will more than likely be back up to 4-5 next year though but we are doing them closer to home also.

backporchbbq
04-21-2008, 01:40 PM
We are doing 4 comps this year, that is one more than last year. The gas prices have kept us from doing more, and further away ones. It is a shame, but hopefully next year they will have things under control

Q Haven
04-21-2008, 03:23 PM
I picked the family and work one, but it's only because my wife is due with our 1st in July, and it will have an impact on this year. I plan to resume a more complete schedule next year.

JD McGee
04-21-2008, 04:07 PM
This is our first full season of competing...so we're not exactly sure how many we'll do. There are 2 or 3 for certains....and a couple of maybes. But yes...gas prices and entry fees are definitely determining factors.

Bigmista
04-21-2008, 04:15 PM
WE have 3 contests in one weekend coming up in May. This will be hard but it will be worth it! Total entry fee $550

Friday May 2nd

Western Championship Cooking Tour Competition

$2000 in Prize Money
First $150
Second $100
Third $50
Fourth $50
Fifth $50
In all Four Categories
Turn Ins Country Salsa 330 Wings 400 Chili 430 BBQ 500 Awards at 630
Plaques and Awards out to 10 place

Chili Western Style Just as you would serve it at home with or without Beans -32 oz Cup Turn In

Wings, Fried, Grilled, Smoked, Boiled or Buffalo10 wings on foil in box

Salsa Mild,32 oz Cup Turn In

BBQ Any type or StyleButts, Tri Tip, Brisket, Chicken, Ribs, get creative This Category Box Allows Garnish
Cover the bottom of the Box with meat 10 separate pieces or more


Peoples Choice 3pm to 6pm for all of the above
Trophies or Plaques First through FifthSaturday 3 May KCBS State Championship

$25,000 in Cash, Prizes and Awards

Awards 6 PM at KCBS Stage
Saturday Payouts

$25,000 in Cash, Prizes and Awards
Top Five Overall

Grand Champion $2000 and 2009 Super Team Site plus 2009 Entry Fees
Reserve Champion $1500 and 2009 Super Team Site plus 2009 Entry Fees
Third $1000
Fourth $500
Fifth $500
Awards $2000Total $8500
All Four KCBS Meat Categories are at

1st $1000
2nd $750
3rd $500
4th $250
5th $150
6 through 10 $100
Plus $350 in AwardsCategory Total Prize Pool $14,000
Best Booth

1st $1000
2nd $500
3rd $250
4th $150
5th $100
Plus $500 in AwardsBooth Category Total Prize Pool $2500

Sunday 4 May KCBS State Championship

$5000 prize pool, entry $150

Sunday Payouts

Sunday KCBS BBQ $5000 total

GC $400
RC $100
$500 in AwardsFour Meat Categories at $1000 each

1st $400
2nd $300
3rd $100
4th $100
5th $100

Kung Fu BBQ
04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
This year we got hit with the double whammy. Gas prices are really driving some of our decisions.
Then taxes made me reschedule my year.
It's gonna be a rough one.

txschutte
04-21-2008, 09:13 PM
Fuel prices are a big hurt. Also, it seems like the non-sanctioned comps are getting pushed by the wayside. It's going to be interesting next year. KCBS, here we come!!

NotleyQue
04-21-2008, 09:54 PM
I will be doing all the contests this year in Cali. 2 down so far.

I dont haul big equipment around with a diesel truck, so even though the price of gas sucks, it really doesnt affect me in any big way.

The peoples choice out here has helped pay for future contest entry fees for my team.


There aren't THAT many contests in So Cal. We're doing all of them. Brings our total to 7 if you include our non-sanctioned backyard contest.

The Pickled Pig
04-21-2008, 11:05 PM
Lastly, there are more contests now than ever. There is now going to be competition amongst the contests to get cooks to want to go to their contest. I know we are having more and more conflicts in the schedule for contests going up against one another in the upper Midwest.

Scottie

I think you hit the nail on the head Scottie. Although it's still a little early to say conclusively, it appears there are many more contests this year and many more teams competing overall.

For the KCBS contests I have the data on (all but 3 last weekend), there were 16 2008 contests that were repeats from 2007. There were 767 teams in the 2008 contests vs. 819 teams in the 2007 contests, a 6% decline. However, in 2007 there were only 13 contests prior to 4/21 with a total of 687 teams while there have been 21 contests in 2008 so far with a total of 933 teams...a whopping 36% increase in teams competing from year to year.

Sawdustguy
04-21-2008, 11:51 PM
WE have 3 contests in one weekend coming up in May. This will be hard but it will be worth it! Total entry fee $550

Friday May 2nd

Western Championship Cooking Tour Competition

$2000 in Prize Money
First $150
Second $100
Third $50
Fourth $50
Fifth $50
In all Four Categories
Turn Ins Country Salsa 330 Wings 400 Chili 430 BBQ 500 Awards at 630
Plaques and Awards out to 10 place
Chili Western Style Just as you would serve it at home with or without Beans -32 oz Cup Turn In
Wings, Fried, Grilled, Smoked, Boiled or Buffalo10 wings on foil in box
Salsa Mild,32 oz Cup Turn In
BBQ Any type or StyleButts, Tri Tip, Brisket, Chicken, Ribs, get creative This Category Box Allows Garnish
Cover the bottom of the Box with meat 10 separate pieces or more

Peoples Choice 3pm to 6pm for all of the above
Trophies or Plaques First through FifthSaturday 3 May KCBS State Championship

$25,000 in Cash, Prizes and Awards

Awards 6 PM at KCBS Stage
Saturday Payouts

$25,000 in Cash, Prizes and Awards
Top Five Overall
Grand Champion $2000 and 2009 Super Team Site plus 2009 Entry Fees
Reserve Champion $1500 and 2009 Super Team Site plus 2009 Entry Fees
Third $1000
Fourth $500
Fifth $500
Awards $2000Total $8500
All Four KCBS Meat Categories are at
1st $1000
2nd $750
3rd $500
4th $250
5th $150
6 through 10 $100
Plus $350 in AwardsCategory Total Prize Pool $14,000
Best Booth
1st $1000
2nd $500
3rd $250
4th $150
5th $100
Plus $500 in AwardsBooth Category Total Prize Pool $2500

Sunday 4 May KCBS State Championship

$5000 prize pool, entry $150

Sunday Payouts

Sunday KCBS BBQ $5000 total
GC $400
RC $100
$500 in AwardsFour Meat Categories at $1000 each
1st $400
2nd $300
3rd $100
4th $100
5th $100Good luck Neil! It's tough to come up with a better way to spend a weekend.

Sawdustguy
04-21-2008, 11:53 PM
We are doing nine this year. Between BBQ and Dog Shows we have a very busy summer.

Scottie
04-22-2008, 10:28 AM
For the KCBS contests I have the data on (all but 3 last weekend), there were 16 2008 contests that were repeats from 2007. There were 767 teams in the 2008 contests vs. 819 teams in the 2007 contests, a 6% decline. However, in 2007 there were only 13 contests prior to 4/21 with a total of 687 teams while there have been 21 contests in 2008 so far with a total of 933 teams...a whopping 36% increase in teams competing from year to year.


Can we plug all of that into your site? I must say, you keep it up to date and it is very fun to try and manipulate the data... 8-)

Thanks for doing that. I enjoy it.

Scottie

jbrink01
04-22-2008, 10:52 AM
Will probably only do 1 contest this year. Just wrapping up a $150,000 home re-model / addition and that has pretty much eliminated the "fun money" for the year. It started out as a $120,000 project but we got a bit carried away.

beam boys bbq
04-23-2008, 08:04 AM
this is our rebuild year bigger trailer and nicer equipment and paul is building an house so we are taking it eazy this year and total of 5 contest this year

york