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Stoke&Smoke
04-08-2008, 07:14 PM
I know I've seen this mentioned previously here, but can't find it. Does anyone have a recommendation for what size Tapcon to use to keep your EZ-Up from rocketing into your neighbors space on a windy day if you're set up on asphalt?

Thanks, I'll hang up and wait for my answer:redface:

River City Smokehouse
04-08-2008, 07:36 PM
Don't know about a tapcon, we use deck screws. Put about two or three in each leg and she'll hold like a champ.

Jeff_in_KC
04-08-2008, 07:39 PM
Jim, you use a cordless drill for that? Not sure mine would have the arse to get them into asphalt.

River City Smokehouse
04-08-2008, 07:44 PM
Jim, you use a cordless drill for that? Not sure mine would have the arse to get them into asphalt.
Yes. A 18 volt Dewalt.

boatnut
04-08-2008, 10:04 PM
i use tapcons all the time for concrete form work. usually i'm going thru an 1 1/2" "2x4" so i use 2 1/4" TAPCONS which allows for 3/4 inch into the concrete. asphalt won't hold as well as concrete. not sure what thickness of leg your working with but i'd figure at least and inch or more into the asphalt. i like the hex head ones. I use a hammer drill to drill the initial hole then cordless drill to drive 'em in.

Plowboy
04-08-2008, 10:16 PM
Just like Jim, I use a 18v Dewalt cordless drill and deck screws with washers. Works great!!

Ford
04-08-2008, 10:33 PM
I'll bet the folks running the contest and those that own the ashphalt don't appreciate all those holes. How about 5 gallon buckets of water or concrete. I just love to see those pails of concrete going airborne.

Plowboy
04-08-2008, 10:43 PM
I'll bet the folks running the contest and those that own the ashphalt don't appreciate all those holes. How about 5 gallon buckets of water or concrete. I just love to see those pails of concrete going airborne.

That's the nice thing with deck screws, after a few hot days, you couldn't find the holes if you tried. They are gone. They aren't even the width of a pencil (or brisket slice) to begin with.

HoDeDo
04-08-2008, 11:21 PM
I think I'll have to try deck screws. They are a heck of a lot cheaper than TapCons anyway. BTW - an 18v Ryobi will also put the tapcons in asphalt with no problems.

Jeff_in_KC
04-09-2008, 01:13 AM
I think I'll have to try deck screws. They are a heck of a lot cheaper than TapCons anyway. BTW - an 18v Ryobi will also put the tapcons in asphalt with no problems.

Hey Andy, will you have an 18v drill this weekend? Might try it myself.

Q Haven
04-09-2008, 08:33 AM
In the past I have bungeed the tent to my meat and beer cooler, one on each side. Works very well.

ihbobry
04-09-2008, 08:35 AM
That's the nice thing with deck screws, after a few hot days, you couldn't find the holes if you tried. They are gone. They aren't even the width of a pencil (or brisket slice) to begin with.

Maybe in MO in the summer, I wouldn't try that in the NE in October.

Plowboy
04-09-2008, 09:35 AM
In the past I have bungeed the tent to my meat

Ouch! :icon_shock1:

Smokin Gator
04-09-2008, 10:19 AM
In the past I have bungeed the tent to my meat and beer cooler, one on each side. Works very well.

The Dennis and Shane from the Space Coast Pit Crew have two 128 quart (I think) coolers that are part of their regular setup. They just strap the tent to them and it is super solid.

Nitrofly
04-09-2008, 10:34 AM
I know I've seen this mentioned previously here, but can't find it. Does anyone have a recommendation for what size Tapcon to use to keep your EZ-Up from rocketing into your neighbors space on a windy day if you're set up on asphalt?

Thanks, I'll hang up and wait for my answer:redface:


I looking up Tapcon in Merriam-Webster dictionary online
can't find it.. Dare I ask what the hell is a Tapcon:?::?::?:

ique
04-09-2008, 10:39 AM
That's the nice thing with deck screws, after a few hot days, you couldn't find the holes if you tried. They are gone. They aren't even the width of a pencil (or brisket slice) to begin with.

Or some caulk and a can of black spraypaint :twisted:

Sledneck
04-09-2008, 10:40 AM
I looking up Tapcon in Merriam-Webster dictionary online
can't find it.. Dare I ask what the hell is a Tapcon:?::?::?:
Concrete screw (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.itwbrands.com/cms/core/editor_images/tapcon_phillpsandflat.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.itwbrands.com/prod_tapcon_home.php&h=200&w=155&sz=10&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=bdbNUfTAcHQlMM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=81&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtapcon%26imgsz%3Dsmall%257Cmedium%257 Clarge%257Cxlarge%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%2 6safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN) sold at all home improvement/hardware store. Tapcon is just a brand name, they are blue , using the blue thermapen anology they are the best:biggrin:

Nitrofly
04-09-2008, 11:08 AM
Concrete screw (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.itwbrands.com/cms/core/editor_images/tapcon_phillpsandflat.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.itwbrands.com/prod_tapcon_home.php&h=200&w=155&sz=10&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=bdbNUfTAcHQlMM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=81&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtapcon%26imgsz%3Dsmall%257Cmedium%257 Clarge%257Cxlarge%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%2 6safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN) sold at all home improvement/hardware store. Tapcon is just a brand name, they are blue , using the blue thermapen anology they are the best:biggrin:

Thank you Thank you...
I really hate to tell you the Black Thermapen's are the most best
Thermapen's ever made :wink: :wink:

Sledneck
04-09-2008, 11:37 AM
Thank you Thank you...
I really hate to tell you the Black Thermapen's are the most best
Thermapen's ever made :wink: :wink:If black thermapens were so good then they would make black tapcons but they don't. So there ya go , blue thermpens with blue tapcons a winning combination!

Nitrofly
04-09-2008, 11:46 AM
that there is funny :biggrin:

Stoke&Smoke
04-09-2008, 01:02 PM
Thanks to all for the good info! :icon_bigsmil

I think I'll give the Deck Screws a try, and will bring a tube of grey caulk just in case it does leave holes!

big brother smoke
04-09-2008, 01:10 PM
Why not just get the ez-up sand bags? weight, expense?:?:
edgamacate me, please.

butts a fire
04-09-2008, 01:54 PM
Why not just get the ez-up sand bags? weight, expense?:?:
edgamacate me, please.


Yes and yes plus they don't weigh enough to stand up to a strong wind The Tap cons and deck screws secure it better plus you can buy a couple seasons worth for the price of one of those sand bags.

River City Smokehouse
04-09-2008, 01:56 PM
Why not just get the ez-up sand bags? weight, expense?:?:
edgamacate me, please.
Means like bags of sand and buckets of water help some, but wait til a wind comes up that is stronger than what they can manage. I like to be assured that my tents aren't going to get damaged or cause damage. I always either use ratchet straps to affix the tent to my truck or trailer, or I use screws in the pavement.

Tinybud
04-09-2008, 03:21 PM
I just used ratchet straps and strap it down to coolers, the cooker, truck,

big brother smoke
04-09-2008, 03:27 PM
Thanks for the info fellas!

DawgPhan
04-09-2008, 04:11 PM
Am I crazy to think that the stakes that came with my EZ-up are good enough to keep my tent in place? I guess most of the contests that we do are on grass so it isnt much of a concern...just drive in the stakes and be done, but come to think of it...Barnesville might be on pavement, so maybe I should grab some screws out of the tool box.

Bride of Roo(BQ'n)
04-09-2008, 05:12 PM
Maybe in MO in the summer, I wouldn't try that in the NE in October.

THANK YOU for beating me to it ihbobry......NO TAPCONS OR DECK SCREWS AT RIVERCITY ROUNDUP the Qwest center would have my head!!!!....besides the wind doesnt blow in Nebraska in the Fall :wink: I know you meant NE as something other than NEbraska, but Im going with it....

Bbq Bubba
04-09-2008, 06:23 PM
Tapcons, screws, bags, coolers.........they all MAY work but when you need holding power....

Stoke&Smoke
04-09-2008, 07:41 PM
:shock:What the fark is that gizmo?

ssbbqguy
04-09-2008, 08:08 PM
all this talk of defacing a parking lot, trivial as it seems, is still defacing a lot. Most promoters do not allow holes in their concrete or asphalt for even a small hole as a tapcon makes will still lead to weeds to expand hole and eventually break. A better and cheaper solution, pvc,filled with concrete, add eyebolt , even extra water containers work better than angering the owner of such lot.

Bbq Bubba
04-09-2008, 08:20 PM
:shock:What the fark is that gizmo?

That my friend is a Ramset, 22 cal. actuated nail gun...
Will run a 3" nail thru an I beam!! :wink::cool:

matthew burt
04-09-2008, 08:48 PM
Hey Andy, will you have an 18v drill this weekend? Might try it myself.

I will have My Drill there that will also drive them in, and My work truck so if you need tapcons or deck screws I will have plenty

River City Smokehouse
04-10-2008, 09:57 AM
Drilling holes in someone elses concrete is something I wouldn't do because it can cause the concrete to crack over time. Asphalt doesn't crack like concrete. I say Screw It!:biggrin:

blues brother
04-10-2008, 11:53 PM
Please don't bring Tapcon's to Barnesville BBQ & Blues....they are not welcome.