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BigBarry
02-07-2008, 10:21 PM
I just got an email from one of the organizers outlining the payouts for the Merrimack, NH event. To me, this seems really low.

The $3K is to be distributed across BOTH the Sat. grilling and Sun. KCBS BBQ events!!

Their event is held at the Anheuser Busch plant and draws TENS of thousands of people who pay admission!

Am I missing something? Yeah, it's for a charity but come on...

I know I personally am not in this for the money, but IF I did place as GC or reserve, I would expect to at least cover my costs!! Meat, gas, supplies, entry, beer(?), food, etc. and have a little scratch left to celebrate with a nice dinner for the crew and maybe a new doodad for the team.

I'm still going to go, but I am very disappointed - especially since they announced the pool after the applications were sent out and they did the same thing last year.

It's an awesome contest and venue and I look forward to it but I just wanted to see how everyone else felt about it.

Here's the rundown:

4 $100+trophies First Places (Saturday)
4 $150+trophies First Places (Sunday)
4 $50+trophies Second Places (Saturday)
4 $75+trophies Second Places (Sunday)
1 $400+trophy Grand Prize (Saturday)
1 $600+trophy Grand Prize (Sunday)
1 $200+trophy Reserve (Saturday)
1 $300+trophy Reserve (Sunday)
8 Trophies Third Places (Saturday and Sunday)
16 Medals Fourth and Fifth Places (Saturday and Sunday)

MilitantSquatter
02-08-2008, 05:49 AM
There seems to have been a lot of talk about this on the NEBS yahoo group.. I did not keep up with specifics as I did not intend to compete there but I also think the organizers did not choose to get NEBS sanctioning this year either as it related to the Rotary Club who is helping with the event and the ROI they felt they were not getting from the fee.

Seemed like this contest could loose a lot of returning teams due to the NEBS issue which would prove the sanctioning means something especially for those interested in NEBS team standings.

Dale P
02-08-2008, 06:12 AM
I agree with you Barry. If I say anymore, i might lose respect for myself. :)

Sledneck
02-08-2008, 06:33 AM
Read about it here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newenglandbbq/)

ique
02-08-2008, 07:17 AM
The prize $ at NH has always sucked. Decent venue near home, Jack Qualifier, NEBS Team of the Year pts has been a draw for me in past years. But have always had a sour taste in my mouth regarding the organizers treating the cooks as an after thought.

I probably wont cook it unless they get nebs sanctioning.

Q Haven
02-08-2008, 07:54 AM
$3K for this contest is a joke. They draw 10K people a day at $5 a head (including many friends and families of teams). Word on the street is that this event makes more than $150K annually for the group that organizes it. The lack of prize money is pure greed. I am skipping this one whether or not they get NEBS sanctioning.

BigBarry
02-08-2008, 08:08 AM
I wrote back to them asking about this and am waiting on a response.

The Giggler
02-08-2008, 11:03 AM
We've been considering the trip out for this one. Payout is not usually a thought, but our fellow friends and competitors are. Sounds to me like the contest is really an afterthought, and there are plenty of other contests on the schedule.

Transformer BBQ
02-08-2008, 11:08 AM
Looked back, pretty sure its the same payouts that they had last year...

BigBarry
02-08-2008, 11:34 AM
Looked back, pretty sure its the same payouts that they had last year...

Yes but I was under the impression that last year was light for a reason, not the norm!

It's a great event, worth the 6 hours of travel for us, but I am not happy about the fact that they revealed such a light pool AFTER they emailed the applications to the competitors.

Maybe if everyone who got the email sent back their feelings, it would be helpful...

Thoughts?

YankeeBBQ
02-08-2008, 11:56 AM
Yes but I was under the impression that last year was light for a reason, not the norm!

It's a great event, worth the 6 hours of travel for us, but I am not happy about the fact that they revealed such a light pool AFTER they emailed the applications to the competitors.

Maybe if everyone who got the email sent back their feelings, it would be helpful...

Thoughts?

It looks like the entry fee goes up every year but not the prize money. I believe the number of teams has also risen every year which should mean more money for the prize pool.


The links Didn't work. Anyway the application for 2004, 2007 and 2008 are on the NEBS Yahoo group in the file section. 2004 was $90/$110, 2007 was $125/150 and 08 is $150/$175 . NEBS/Non NEBS Granted sanctioning fees have risen this year but that doesn't account for the number of teams. In 07 there were 36 teams in the event. I'm not sure about prior years. 36 x $125 is $4500 and I'm sure a good number of teams were not NEBS members so that number goes up.

SmokeInDaEye
02-08-2008, 12:57 PM
I enjoyed the company last year but won't be returning given the small number of contests I can do this year, coupled with the drive, prize money and non-NEBS affliliation.

It is still a state championship though.

Q Haven
02-08-2008, 01:26 PM
It is still a state championship though.

If they get 25 teams to show up....

Mrs. Sawdust
02-08-2008, 04:05 PM
Well, Our application is in. We enjoyed this contest last year. The venue is great and I can only say good things about how we were treated. Pete helped us get our trailer tire fixed. I know a great deal is being said about the prize pool, but to be honest, I have never made a decision about entering a contest based on the prize pool. I do consider location/venue and our availability to cook. I remember a poll here not to long ago asking if you had a choice of cash, trophies or medals most people elected the hardware. If nothing else, why not consider it a donation to a worthy cause and if there are enough teams, a possible trip to the Jack.

Transformer BBQ
02-08-2008, 05:52 PM
Michele-
I've seen you mention a few time that you really liked the venue. I was wodneirng if you could elaborate on what parts you enjoyed so much. Reason I'm asking is that I've seen several, dozen posts on this contest over the last few weeks, and I don't remember anything being said on this point...
-B

Mrs. Sawdust
02-08-2008, 08:36 PM
The grounds at the Anheuser-Busch Brewery are great. The fields where we set up are nice grassy areas and as level as can be expected. We are given 20 x 30 sites for our entry and the fee includes water and electric. Most other contests we have to pay extra for a site over 20x 20 (which we need due to the trailer) as well as additional fees for water and electric hookup. We do not mind the smell of the wort as both Guy and his brother Gary are home brewers. As a matter of fact on arrival last year Guy and Gary looked at each other, sniffed, and asked if this is what it's like in heaven. It was orderly getting in an out. In fact, it was not a free for all trying to get the truck in to hook up the trailer and get out. It's a family friendly venue- balloon rides, tours of the brewery etc. They maintained the "restrooms". The organizers were helpful. It was by far one of the best we went to last year. It also did not hurt us coming in 5th overall with calls in ribs and brisket.:-D


Michele-
I've seen you mention a few time that you really liked the venue. I was wodneirng if you could elaborate on what parts you enjoyed so much. Reason I'm asking is that I've seen several, dozen posts on this contest over the last few weeks, and I don't remember anything being said on this point...
-B

Transformer BBQ
02-08-2008, 09:33 PM
Thanks, seems like it was a great fit for you guys.

Honestly most other accounts involve stories about flooded sites, broken hoses, very difficult entry and exit process and times, distant parking, over flowing toilets, unfriendly hosts, low prize money, objection to the wort smell...

and many of these are coming from the team that won last year, so I was curious.

thanks.
-B

Sawdustguy
02-08-2008, 11:37 PM
Thanks, seems like it was a great fit for you guys.

Honestly most other accounts involve stories about flooded sites, broken hoses, very difficult entry and exit process and times, distant parking, over flowing toilets, unfriendly hosts, low prize money, objection to the wort smell...

and many of these are coming from the team that won last year, so I was curious.

thanks.
-B

I can tell you first hand that the toilets were not over-flowing. They must have had at least 35 porta potties set up. We were warned about high water pressure before time. We have a heavy duty hose so it did not matter to us. I guess that people just need something to bitch about and If people look hard enough they will find it. I'll be honest, lots of contests are going away and if we are not careful this one will also. I agree that the prize money could be higher but I would hate to see a Jack qualifier go by the wayside.