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Roo-B-Q'N
02-07-2008, 01:23 PM
Look at your contest schedule for this year. If any of those contest were non sanctioned (and it doesn't matter by which sanctioning body) would you still compete in them? Give your reasons as well.

I for one have passed on a non sanctioned comp for this year because the rules stated that the judges rulings were final but the organizer had the right of first refusal. :shock::eek::roll:

But I think if I had competed in a contest last year and knew it was above board and going to be run well. I would compete. Esp. if it were closer to home than a sanctioned one.

YankeeBBQ
02-07-2008, 01:32 PM
I voted other because it would depend on several things. Who was running the contest, what the rules were, who or what does the contest benefit. I've competed in a couple of non sanctioned contests but all that was on the line was bragging rights.

Sledneck
02-07-2008, 01:36 PM
Williepalooza '07 was non-sanctioned and was the BEST contest i have ever competed in.

Transformer BBQ
02-07-2008, 01:37 PM
Other-
Sort of like steve said, its not always about the sanctioning, more sometiems about the spirit of the event.

I'd compete in most things if there was something behind it... even if it was just bragging rights in most cases. Cooking would be about one of the least dumb things I've competed against other people in...

YankeeBBQ
02-07-2008, 01:39 PM
Other-
Sort of like steve said, its not always about the sanctioning, more sometiems about the spirit of the event.

I'd compete in most things if there was something behind it... even if it was just bragging rights in most cases. Cooking would be about one of the least dumb things I've competed against other people in...

What would be the dumbest ? Hmmmmmm

Ford
02-07-2008, 01:54 PM
if it was a qualifier for the Jack I would consider it. But only if it was a lot closer than other choices. And I'd need to know it was going to be well run and that the money would be paid out. I would have done Jim and Jim's Ohio contest last year but it was the same day as the local KCBS contest.

Sometimes I choose to drive farther just because I know it's a good contest.

Transformer BBQ
02-07-2008, 02:25 PM
What would be the dumbest ? Hmmmmmm

Chugging milk has to be up there...

WannaBeBBQueen
02-07-2008, 03:20 PM
Williepalooza '07 was non-sanctioned and was the BEST contest i have ever competed in.

AMEN!!! :biggrin:

The first contest we ever won in was a non-sanctioned event, Hillsbourgh No Fire Just Smoke...that sold us!!

They are all run with KCBS guided rules.

smoke-n-my-i's
02-07-2008, 03:52 PM
It would depend on what it is for, where it is, and how it is run. For the most part, I would probably say yes. But, if it was just for a local jip joint, and they were doing it just to raise money, most likely not. If it was for a good charity group, most likely yes.

BBQchef33
02-07-2008, 03:59 PM
I don't care as long as the rules are posted and adhered to. All the unsanctioned events I have been to used KCBS rules.

bigabyte
02-07-2008, 04:17 PM
It would depend on many factors, as mentioned previously by others, most of all it would have to be a reputable competition with no funny business. Pretty much every contest around here is KCBS though, so thre really is not a lot of choice anyway.

SP
02-07-2008, 04:19 PM
I go to contest to compete. If the best are there I will be there too.

Sawdustguy
02-07-2008, 04:58 PM
I doubt I would ever cook a non-sanctioned event where I didn't know the Organizer to be upstanding. Thats the reason we have the KCBS sanctioning service available. You could cook a non-sanctioned contest and the organizer could give the prize to his neighbor. You would never find out and there would be nothing you could do.

gordo
02-07-2008, 07:33 PM
I cooked a non sanctioned one last weekend...no problem, didn't cost much to enter, had fun and picked up some good money for 2nd place ribs.. if they are not run on the up and up the teams don't cook them again...

cooking a TGCBCA sanctioned event this coming weekend, 100 teams, paying 10 places in meat categories, looking forward to it...and who ever wins gets Royal invite, and ticket in the hat for the Jack..

Don't matter to me, I enjoy the competition, cooking bbq, and having fun..

scottyd
02-07-2008, 07:35 PM
Look at your contest schedule for this year. If any of those contest were non sanctioned (and it doesn't matter by which sanctioning body) would you still compete in them? Give your reasons as well.

I for one have passed on a non sanctioned comp for this year because the rules stated that the judges rulings were final but the organizer had the right of first refusal. :shock::eek::roll:

But I think if I had competed in a contest last year and knew it was above board and going to be run well. I would compete. Esp. if it were closer to home than a sanctioned one.

yes I would and do 2 of them a year kinda fun. Where is one at Roo?

Sledneck
02-07-2008, 07:52 PM
Man i hope Williepalooza happens again this year. I want that trophy!

TOPS BBQ
02-07-2008, 08:24 PM
I have seen the best and worst of both worlds. I have seen a non-sanctioned and KCBS sanctioned event gone bad on money. I have also seen the exact opposite. So I guess it really doesn't matter.

The Williepalooza trophy is Fark'n awesome! I'm a huge dog lover and just to have that dog on top of a trophy would be great. Where is the comp held?

Just Smokin' Around
02-07-2008, 08:59 PM
I chose #3, if it was run above board - not sure anyone would cook a contest it they knew it wasn't above board (not sure if that means the "fix is in" or what?). I've done local, non-sanctioned contest and had a blast. They were first or second year contests and there were a few bumps along the way, but Iv'e seen that at sanctioned contest. Learning curve. It doesn't have to be a qualifier for anything other than fun.

HoDeDo
02-07-2008, 10:22 PM
Look at your contest schedule for this year. If any of those contest were non sanctioned (and it doesn't matter by which sanctioning body) would you still compete in them? Give your reasons as well.

I for one have passed on a non sanctioned comp for this year because the rules stated that the judges rulings were final but the organizer had the right of first refusal. :shock::eek::roll:

But I think if I had competed in a contest last year and knew it was above board and going to be run well. I would compete. Esp. if it were closer to home than a sanctioned one.

yes I would and do 2 of them a year kinda fun. Where is one at Roo?

Roo - you passed on two unsanctioned contests this year :) I know, I know, you are booked up this weekend....

Scotty-
It isn't too late to come on down and Polar Swine with us :)

Sledneck
02-08-2008, 06:38 AM
The Williepalooza trophy is Fark'n awesome! I'm a huge dog lover and just to have that dog on top of a trophy would be great. Where is the comp held?Last year was the inaugural year. It was held in the parking lots of Willie B's BBQ. It was a brethren only contest. This year it needs a new venue. Basically a parking lot with access to a hose and and electrical outlet would do. Besides the "big wiener" trophy for grand some really cool custom plaques were given out as well. Each team threw in $100 and it was all returned as prize money.Here is the link (http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26542&highlight=williepalooza)The pic in my avatar is from that day. It was run under KCBS rules and the judges were all KCBS CBJ's.

WannaBeBBQueen
02-08-2008, 07:19 AM
Last year was the inaugural year. It was held in the parking lots of Willie B's BBQ. It was a brethren only contest. This year it needs a new venue. Basically a parking lot with access to a hose and and electrical outlet would do. Besides the "big wiener" trophy for grand some really cool custom plaques were given out as well. Each team threw in $100 and it was all returned as prize money.Here is the link (http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26542&highlight=williepalooza)The pic in my avatar is from that day. It was run under KCBS rules and the judges were all KCBS CBJ's.

it twas the best:biggrin:...so much fun!!

MoKanMeathead
02-08-2008, 08:06 AM
As long it I knew the rules and they were enforced. Having said that I am heading out to the Polar swine this afternoon. Definately not a KCBS contest.

scottyd
02-08-2008, 09:38 AM
Roo - you passed on two unsanctioned contests this year :) I know, I know, you are booked up this weekend....

Scotty-
It isn't too late to come on down and Polar Swine with us :)


Andy my trailer is getting the custom made cabinets installed today and wont be ready until tuesday to pick up or my friend I would be down for the polor swine. I however will and mark my word be there for Kooker's care this year as I have never done this. I want to do this sounds like a great event and I sure my sponsor will be happy to help out.

Scotty D

Professor Salt
02-08-2008, 10:53 PM
We've had two backyard "contests" last year at CRocke's house. With the neighbors' approval, we took over his cul de sac. They were no entry fee, no prize money deals that were just for fun. It was a place for noobs to get their feet wet, and for established teams to test out experimental cooking techniques that they otherwise wouldn't attempt in a "real" contest.

Bentley's mom baked a whole bunch of killer pies as prizes for the category winners. We mostly followed KCBS rules with a few concessions for the lack of an overnight cook (swapped brisket for tri tip, for example).

The judges there were a mix of CBJ's and CRocke's neighbors. Nothing like great BBQ to subdue the neighbors into cooperation. All in all, great fun, and we're looking forward to the next one on March 1.

big blue bbq
02-08-2008, 11:33 PM
We cooked at one last year, but it was only back yard. It was at a grill shop and they did it to draw customers in. I think they used some of their best customers as judges. I learned to cook sweet at it this year and to over cook my ribs. They have a gas and charcoal contest and you can enter both. First prize in charcoal is $500 and a large BGE. Gas contest was $500 and a big Weber gasser. Entry was $90 and about 12 teams show up. I did 2nd in chicken, but 9th in ribs. I did get to try the ribs from the winner and they were like candy on a stick.

larry

CTSmokehouse
02-08-2008, 11:54 PM
Williepalooza '07 was non-sanctioned and was the BEST contest i have ever competed in.


Williepalooza '07 was a gas... I had the time of my life... it was a learning experience for the teams and for the organizers of Sayville... both events were great BTW... the camaraderie was outstanding... made me feel like I grew up in LI...it had a few quirks (learning curve) but it was an experience I will remember favorably for a long time... will still wonder what our scores were... cooked with some really great people and reinforced friendships...very positive....

Let's do it again! Here's to Williepalooza ' 08 and to Sayville '08 too....

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
02-09-2008, 07:15 AM
like most already said , above the board no funny biz. I probably would stick to a charity event in this case.

Sledneck
02-09-2008, 09:24 AM
Williepalooza '07 was a gas...it had a few quirks (learning curve) but it was an experience I will remember favorably for a long time... Cliff
I cant recall any "quirks" As far as I am concerned it was run better than any KCBS contest that i have been to Sayville included