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PalmettoSmoke
07-03-2007, 12:45 PM
Hello everyone. So I need to purchase a new canopy for my competitions, and noticed that Wal-Mart has their "First-Up" brand on sell for $79.00. Is there any reason to pay twice as much for the EZ-Up brand, or are you just paying for the name?

Thanks.

SmokeInDaEye
07-03-2007, 12:55 PM
Spend more for sturdier construction. I've destroyed three Quick Shades/EZ-Ups in less than a year. Two were repairable but that was extra money I could have spent on something better.

The last one was weighted down, teathered to a trailer, etc. but one strong gust ripped the upper supports apart, leaving the weight behind.

I'm now looking at one of those 10x20 car ports. A bit harder to transport and assemble, but they seem to hold up in bad weather.

Smokin Gator
07-03-2007, 01:29 PM
Go with the EZ-Up... I have had one of my two for 5-6 years and it is still going strong. Before that I had a Quick Shade and the pos lasted less than a year.

HoDeDo
07-03-2007, 03:12 PM
you will notice a substanial difference in the thickness of the frame members, the make-up of the metal in them.... And the areas where the frame members are joined are much sturdier in the ez-ups vs. the cheaper ones. They are designed to hold up to more. Also - the tops on the Sam's ones are typically 500-600 denier and well waterproofed, usually with reienforced seams. The wally world ones will start to leak after a few uses/abuses. They also are not as thick/strong in the fabric.... usually a cheap coated nylon.

HoDeDo
07-03-2007, 03:15 PM
Specifically the new EZ-up at Sam's, the Embassy II - $187. Comes with four sides, and and an awning, with banner holder. All sides Zip at the corners and one has a door opening. The top bolts to the frame in EIGHT places - so much more sturdy. The new one also does away with the center post... so you get much better drain off from the roof, and less sagging than older models. Ok, that's all for now :o)

Slamdunkpro
07-03-2007, 04:42 PM
According to EZ-UP and Sam's the Embassy II shelter has been recalled (overtightened bolts during assembly causing the trusses to bend) and discontinued.

HoDeDo
07-03-2007, 07:46 PM
According to EZ-UP and Sam's the Embassy II shelter has been recalled (overtightened bolts during assembly causing the trusses to bend) and discontinued.

Interesting! I like ours better than our Encore. We have one of each.
They have a huge display of them at both JoCo KS Sam's club, as I was in both today picking up meat.... I'll have to ask about the recall - they are definately selling them!

I must have gotten one before/after the bolt tightening issue....
Thanks for the heads up!

CTSmokehouse
07-03-2007, 09:03 PM
Spend more for sturdier construction. I've destroyed three Quick Shades/EZ-Ups in less than a year. Two were repairable but that was extra money I could have spent on something better.

The last one was weighted down, teathered to a trailer, etc. but one strong gust ripped the upper supports apart, leaving the weight behind.

I'm now looking at one of those 10x20 car ports. A bit harder to transport and assemble, but they seem to hold up in bad weather.


Have not destroyed any Quick Shades/EZ-Ups yet in 2 years, but have destroyed the carry pack on one. I guess you go to more exciting venues?
At Lime Rock, Don and I tried to install the side panels in 40 mile an hour winds... not a good idea.. we held on to the Quick Shades as the storm passed by. Other teams had secured there sites with slings and ice chests.

Happy with my Quick Shades.

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

SmokeInDaEye
07-03-2007, 09:50 PM
Have not destroyed any Quick Shades/EZ-Ups yet in 2 years, but have destroyed the carry pack on one. I guess you go to more exciting venues?
At Lime Rock, Don and I tried to install the side panels in 40 mile an hour winds... not a good idea.. we held on to the Quick Shades as the storm passed by. Other teams had secured there sites with slings and ice chests.

Happy with my Quick Shades.

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff


IT depends on how you define more exciting, Cliff. The worst was losing my only canopy at Hudson Valley rib fest in the middle of a thunderstorm last year and bending the legs back into shape so we could make it through the night. The easiest was a 10x10 missle in the middle of our fish turn-in two weeks ago in New Hampshire. To date, I done two KCBS contests and have lost three canopies in the process. Just another reason for me to stick with grillin! :)

HoDeDo
07-03-2007, 10:57 PM
IT depends on how you define more exciting, Cliff. The worst was losing my only canopy at Hudson Valley rib fest in the middle of a thunderstorm last year and bending the legs back into shape so we could make it through the night. The easiest was a 10x10 missle in the middle of our fish turn-in two weeks ago in New Hampshire. To date, I done two KCBS contests and have lost three canopies in the process. Just another reason for me to stick with grillin! :)

I feel your pain brother....
You could have snow pile up on your top, and tear it. (Osage City)
Heavy winds collapse a cheap frame (Oklahoma Joes)
Heavy Rain sag your top further (hmm not coming to me)
Then - severe thunderstorms/50 MPH winds, tear your top at a seam trying to lift it (staked off to the truck and trailer), and almost ruin a frame (Marshalltown)

:shock:

Jeff_in_KC
07-03-2007, 11:20 PM
According to EZ-UP and Sam's the Embassy II shelter has been recalled (overtightened bolts during assembly causing the trusses to bend) and discontinued.

No chit????????? Well that does it! I'm definitely taking mine back to Sams! One use and it busted all to hell! Do NOT buy an Embassy! The Encore is awesome!

HoDeDo
07-04-2007, 12:39 AM
No chit????????? Well that does it! I'm definitely taking mine back to Sams! One use and it busted all to hell! Do NOT buy an Embassy! The Encore is awesome!

If you want a Caravan from CostCo, let me know... I'll be taking my embassy back now also, and getting a CostCo canopy...(Alumashade)

I thought my embassy held up great during the Marshalltown storm, where my encore died, but no use in tempting fate if they are recalled. I didnt see it on CPSC or consumer reports, but if I find a link to the specific recall I'll forward out to those I know that have them.

CTSmokehouse
07-04-2007, 06:44 AM
IT depends on how you define more exciting, Cliff. The worst was losing my only canopy at Hudson Valley rib fest in the middle of a thunderstorm last year and bending the legs back into shape so we could make it through the night. The easiest was a 10x10 missle in the middle of our fish turn-in two weeks ago in New Hampshire. To date, I done two KCBS contests and have lost three canopies in the process. Just another reason for me to stick with grillin! :)

Clint,

Our first comp was Hudson Valley Rib Fest last year....so that was you we saw running (flying) by...! You were in the swamp section....we chose the flood plain!

I guess we have been lucky! (or haven't done enough comps)

Do you nail the legs into the ground?


See you at Willie Palooza!

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

SmokeInDaEye
07-04-2007, 09:11 AM
Clint,

Our first comp was Hudson Valley Rib Fest last year....so that was you we saw running (flying) by...! You were in the swamp section....we chose the flood plain!

I guess we have been lucky! (or haven't done enough comps)

Do you nail the legs into the ground?


See you at Willie Palooza!

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

That was me, by the bathrooms and turn-in. Seemed like a convenient location...

I used to stake the legs into the ground but now I attach five gallon water jugs to the legs and, on some wise brethren advise, stake and tie each corner like a tent. Picking up the 10x20 carport on Sunday.

Mo-Dave
07-04-2007, 11:44 AM
Don't mean to high jack this tread but I have an Encore ll Ez-up. I bought it last summer from Sams and have used it 4 times. The last cook off it rained hard, this was the first time I used it while it was raining. My problem is it leaked like a sieve, especially at the low point near the corners. Anyone else experience this and what if anything can be done about it?
Dave

SmokeWatcher
07-04-2007, 04:38 PM
I was looking at the WM First-up canopy today.....glad I didn't bite that hook.

Muzzlebrake
07-04-2007, 05:58 PM
Don't mean to high jack this tread but I have an Encore ll Ez-up. I bought it last summer from Sams and have used it 4 times. The last cook off it rained hard, this was the first time I used it while it was raining. My problem is it leaked like a sieve, especially at the low point near the corners. Anyone else experience this and what if anything can be done about it?
Dave

Did you seal it?

I just used my new ones for the first time this past weekend at Lake Placid. I did have some leaks during the heaviest rains but nothing too bad.

I usually spray all of my tents with a good sealer at east once a year, just forgot about it this time. I think it will be fine once i spray them.

Muzzlebrake
07-04-2007, 06:03 PM
I thought my embassy held up great during the Marshalltown storm, where my encore died, but no use in tempting fate if they are recalled. I didnt see it on CPSC or consumer reports, but if I find a link to the specific recall I'll forward out to those I know that have them.

Please let me know if find out anything. I just used my new Embassy and thought it was nice, hate to have the thing break in the middle of a good thunderstorm.

JamesB
07-04-2007, 07:24 PM
Don't mean to high jack this tread but I have an Encore ll Ez-up. I bought it last summer from Sams and have used it 4 times. The last cook off it rained hard, this was the first time I used it while it was raining. My problem is it leaked like a sieve, especially at the low point near the corners. Anyone else experience this and what if anything can be done about it?
Dave


Just used my Encore II this past Sunday in heavy rain. No problems with leaks or puddling. Was yours leaking at the seams?

James.

CTSmokehouse
07-04-2007, 09:06 PM
That was me, by the bathrooms and turn-in. Seemed like a convenient location...

I used to stake the legs into the ground but now I attach five gallon water jugs to the legs and, on some wise brethren advise, stake and tie each corner like a tent. Picking up the 10x20 carport on Sunday.



Clint was this your site...? The Quick Shade looks good there! Ours was the fourth red one.

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

chinesebob
07-04-2007, 09:18 PM
I got the green quest ez-up last year - used it once and the thing fell apart when I was putting it away. Bought the extended warranty from Dick's when I got it went to get the new one and they don't honor the warranty without my original receipt. So on the advice of a friend I'm going to go get a new one and then return my broken one and be more careful. It's really frustrating. I was thinking about the car port one too. How much do they run?

SmokeInDaEye
07-04-2007, 09:49 PM
Clint was this your site...? The Quick Shade looks good there! Ours was the fourth red one.

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

That was me! My first contest was quite a learning experience. That Quikshade is actually still alive after I replaced a couple legs but I think I'm retiring it for backyard parties. It barely survived in New Hampshire a couple weeks ago.

HoDeDo
07-04-2007, 11:24 PM
Please let me know if find out anything. I just used my new Embassy and thought it was nice, hate to have the thing break in the middle of a good thunderstorm.

I thought mine worked great in Marshalltown too, held up better than my Encore II did. But - I too dont want it to die on me when I need it most....

LostNation
07-05-2007, 06:22 AM
I have the Caravan tents from Cosco. I think they were around $180 with the zipper sides. My old ones are 4 years old and have seen feet of rain, hard wind, they have blown over a few times. They were loose,leaked, rusty and sagged. I still have them in the basement.

The new ones (Lake Placid was the second contest) didn't leak or pool water.

I couldn't be happier with these tents.

Norcoredneck
07-05-2007, 06:46 AM
Someone should start a pole. Easier research than reading and cyphering out opinions. I don't know brands available to you all since the original EZ up is close by me and I buy at outlet.

bigmeatbbq
07-05-2007, 09:56 AM
Bought a 10x10 ez-up at Farm & Fleet for $65.00. I had a coupon for $10.00 off so the total was only $55.00. It was the best buy so far this year.

Puppyboy
07-05-2007, 03:27 PM
...I'm now looking at one of those 10x20 car ports. A bit harder to transport and assemble, but they seem to hold up in bad weather.

We like our carport. Took about a half hour to set up and about the same to take down.

crackerjack BBQ
07-05-2007, 07:55 PM
The thing I look for is the cross supports. Caravan has these and gives it more support in wind and rain. I bought a EZ up originally and the sides buckle when the wind picks up. It takes about 5 minutes to set up, even by yourself.

SmokeInDaEye
07-05-2007, 08:06 PM
We like our carport. Took about a half hour to set up and about the same to take down.

Do you have half a jeep in there????

CTSmokehouse
07-05-2007, 08:22 PM
Do you have half a jeep in there????

It looks that way... !


Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
07-05-2007, 08:40 PM
We use a carport type, londer to set up but takes more weather then a pop-up style. I have owned easily 7 or more pop-ups and they just dont seem to last. It seems like the plastic connections just crack and break!

Transformer BBQ
07-05-2007, 10:39 PM
I will confirm smoke in da eye;s loss of a tent in NH... mostly because that missle of a tent ended up spiking my 10x20... given my tent wasn't the most expensive unit out there... but it did weather harpoon 06... which was a huge down pour.

I do have a caravan/ costco tent 10x10, that is about 185, and it has done very well... I think I am going to replace the tent from NH with a carport 10x20... also from costco...

don't buy a cheap tent... they are cheap for a reason, and cheap tents are always the ones in the junk pile at an event...

SmokeInDaEye
07-05-2007, 11:16 PM
I will confirm smoke in da eye;s loss of a tent in NH... mostly because that missle of a tent ended up spiking my 10x20... given my tent wasn't the most expensive unit out there... but it did weather harpoon 06... which was a huge down pour.

I do have a caravan/ costco tent 10x10, that is about 185, and it has done very well... I think I am going to replace the tent from NH with a carport 10x20... also from costco...

don't buy a cheap tent... they are cheap for a reason, and cheap tents are always the ones in the junk pile at an event...

I still feel awful about that. I'll make it up to you all the next time we cross paths!

Puppyboy
07-06-2007, 04:34 AM
Do you have half a jeep in there????

It looks that way... !

Yours in BBQ,

Cliff

I backed my truck in the other door and zipped it shut.

Transformer BBQ
07-06-2007, 07:36 AM
No worries on the tent, I bring it up because it was funny... all these people running over to help, and you and I not looking up from the grills... guess we had other priorities.

that thing wasn't going to survive the weekend anyway... gives me a good excuse to upgrade...