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motoeric
08-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Hi,

I was wondering if you get your meat for a competition from a butcher, a supermarket, costco or what?

I imagine that a butcher would be easiest but most expensive.

And a question that's a bit off topic, how do you get that 'film' off the back of the ribs? I spent an hour last night trying to get it all off and thought that there has to be a better way.

Thanks!

Eric Devlin

YankeeBBQ
08-11-2006, 02:21 PM
pry up one corner by sticking your knife under the membrane and prying up with the back of the knife (the unsharpened side). Then grab it with a paper towel and pull. It's very easy once you get the hang of it
http://www.ismellsmoke.com/images/Peel%202_jpg.jpg

Westexbbq
08-11-2006, 02:46 PM
What part of the country are you Eric?
When I started, I went the local butcher route, figuring I was gonna get better quality special order etc. especially for a packers cut brisket. Had to train them though not to mess with it; same with pork butts and ribs. Most of time it worked out but I was paying a pretty penny. Turns out I could do much better by going to the wholesale source and that is what I do now here on Long Island. I can find good ribs in the supermarket or the Costco's etc aok.
Most likely depends on your area.

we'll smoke u
08-11-2006, 04:06 PM
I Have Used Both Butcher And Wholesale Like Sam's Club. I Found No Difference Between The Two Meat Wise, But Price There Is A Diference. Sam's Lets Me Dig Thru There Case's To Find What I Want.
I Start In The Middle And Just Use My Finger. Work It Under The Membrane And Pull Out, Both Sides Will Peel At Same Time

SmokeInDaEye
08-11-2006, 04:51 PM
Turns out I could do much better by going to the wholesale source and that is what I do now here on Long Island. I can find good ribs in the supermarket or the Costco's etc aok.
Most likely depends on your area.

Where do you get decent packers cut brisket and shoulders on LI? I was going to pick up ribs from Costco for the New Hudson Rib Fest but was about to order the others from my local butcher. Would love a better (read "cheaper") source!

- Clint

rbsnwngs
08-11-2006, 05:08 PM
i use Majastic meats out in Patchouge

ggriffi
08-11-2006, 06:00 PM
My ribs I get at a small grocery store that I will pick up on my way home from work. The only place that I have found brisket around here so far is a butcher shop. Pork butt I get at a grocery store here by me. I understand about trying to save money, but I am really thinking about using the butcher all the time. It might cost me a little more but if I need something at the last minute...

Plus I just cooked for 51 people and it only cost $120, and that would have been enough to cook for my first comp.

Just my $.02

g

mm_0_mm
08-11-2006, 06:56 PM
I Start In The Middle And Just Use My Finger. Work It Under The Membrane And Pull Out...

someones gotta comment on that quote, might as well be me. :eek:

Bigmista
08-11-2006, 06:59 PM
Restaurant depot of Smart & Final but I'm in Cali.

jminion
08-11-2006, 07:25 PM
I get everything wholesale anymore, my catering business has really taken off so we buy everything by the case. Kobe brisket, organic pork. Ribs are a St Louis cut product that have been better quality than anything I can find at Costco or Sam as an example. The chickens are organic and have been great.

Also have a wholesale supplier for seafood. The wholesaler has asked my partner and I to produce all their smoked fish product, they have also opened their cold storage for our use.

It's all about about building relationships.

Company picnic tomorrow for 200 at $27 a plate, business is good.

motoeric
08-11-2006, 08:45 PM
[quote=Westexbbq]What part of the country are you Eric?
quote]


I'm about 10 miles west of you in Huntington off the LIE. : )


I assume that our shopping experiences would be similar then.

Thanks to all for the advice!

Eric Devlin

Westexbbq
08-11-2006, 09:12 PM
Eric, CLint, et al,
Looks like Willie B and I are on the same page, Majestic Meats in Patchogue.
I'm sure if you mention Willie you might get more juice than I, but try 'em out and feel free to mention my name.
Wes

Sawdustguy
08-11-2006, 09:19 PM
Resturant Depot and Majestic Meats

Rockaway BeachBQ
08-11-2006, 09:59 PM
Restaraunt Depot is definitely the best route for competition shopping or any big cook. You can not beat the prices and it is just about the only place you can find Packer brisket year round. Just walk in and ask for a one day pass.

SmokeInDaEye
08-11-2006, 11:30 PM
Thanks will, wes et al. I've got some LI exploring to do tomorrow. Now for my stupid question of the month...

Should I try to buy meat next friday for a weekend competition (meaning a day off from work) or is it ok to store cryovac'd meat for 6 days (assuming the bag doesn't start leaking)?

I'm overly anxious about our first kcbs competition so feel free to kick me a new one for not searching old threads for my answer!

- Clint

SmokeInDaEye
08-12-2006, 12:19 AM
Sorry for 2 posts in a row but I just found the website for Restaurant Depot and there seems to be one no more than a minute from my house (and yes, I feel very stupid for never seeing it!!).

Wes, Will or anyone, can I walk up and simply ask for a one-day pass or do I need to come prepared with some business license info?

Rockaway BeachBQ
08-12-2006, 12:44 AM
If you can bring a Tax ID (that is all they will take) you can get a membership. The one in Queens made people getting a one day pass sign a book with the name of their business and then got a pass. I saw a lot of scribbled nonsense when I glanced at it.

Sawdustguy
08-12-2006, 05:20 AM
Thanks will, wes et al. I've got some LI exploring to do tomorrow. Now for my stupid question of the month...

Should I try to buy meat next friday for a weekend competition (meaning a day off from work) or is it ok to store cryovac'd meat for 6 days (assuming the bag doesn't start leaking)?

I'm overly anxious about our first kcbs competition so feel free to kick me a new one for not searching old threads for my answer!

- Clint

There are some who will try to age their beef but I am not one to take chances with the $150 I just spent for meat for a contest. When I get home from Resturant Depot or Majestic Meats (Willy B turned me on to them) I put the meat into my freezer. I put the meat into the frig 24 hours before the contest.

We usually bring 3 briskets, 3 butts, 10 to 12 racks of baby backs and 24 thighs.

Q Haven
08-12-2006, 09:08 AM
We usually bring 3 briskets, 3 butts, 10 to 12 racks of baby backs and 24 thighs.

That's a lot of leftovers! You must have a lot of happy friends and neighbors at home....

SmokeInDaEye
08-12-2006, 10:19 AM
We usually bring 3 briskets, 3 butts, 10 to 12 racks of baby backs and 24 thighs.

But you've got that beautiful new rig while I'm struggling to find room for four meats! I'm thinking 1 chicken tender, half a rib, 1 burnt end and the juice from a shoulder. At least it'll be cheap!

Bigmista
08-12-2006, 11:25 AM
I get everything wholesale anymore, my catering business has really taken off so we buy everything by the case. Kobe brisket, organic pork. Ribs are a St Louis cut product that have been better quality than anything I can find at Costco or Sam as an example. The chickens are organic and have been great.

Also have a wholesale supplier for seafood. The wholesaler has asked my partner and I to produce all their smoked fish product, they have also opened their cold storage for our use.

It's all about about building relationships.

Company picnic tomorrow for 200 at $27 a plate, business is good.

$27 a plate? Wow! What are you serving Jim?

Solidkick
08-13-2006, 08:41 AM
$27 a plate? Wow! What are you serving Jim?

No kidding! And my wife was feeling guilty about charging 6.00 a plate for some friends wedding rehersal dinner......

Smoker
08-13-2006, 09:22 AM
What do Restaurant Depot and Majestic get per pound for baby backs. Costco is $3.69 a pound and about 40 cents cheaper a LB if u buy by the case.

MilitantSquatter
08-13-2006, 09:27 AM
Last time I was at Restaurant Depot to buy the briskets & butts... the babybacks were being sold for $2.59/lb... Last week, I think I got a flyer in the mail that that $2.59/lb was the sale price again...

Since I'm still skeptical about the fishy tasting ribs I got at Costco for $3.19/lb, I may buy the ribs from Restaurant Depot to use at Hudson Valley contest next week... I'm going there for the briskets & butts anyway...just hoping the quality is good.

rbsnwngs
08-13-2006, 04:20 PM
I dont like the ribs from Restaurant depot there to small. 30lb case and only get 15 racks at best (2lbs per). The IBP ribs that i buy from Majestic i buy by the case 18 racks per case and i can get cases upwards of 45-50lbs (avg 2.5-2.77 per rack) depending on how far in advance i order them. Last i order them i paid $3.49 lb

jminion
08-13-2006, 06:24 PM
$27 a plate? Wow! What are you serving Jim?

We are catering to corporate accounts and high end customers.
Kobe beef, wild salmon, best pork we can find, same for poultry. Sides are traditional, veg and fruit platters, grilled deserts. Go over the top in presentation. We cook the shorter meats on site. We match quality wines to the menu. It's a matter of marketing and putting on a food show.

Price wise, low end is $25 and $100 at the high end so far.