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woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:08 AM
For comparison purpose, you can take QMaster-Senior as DigiQ,
But there are big different points too
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Dual Probes, one for pit, the other for meat.
Programmable 4 PIT temperature stages and 4 MEAT temperature stages.
PID output to control speed of blower, in turn pit temperature.
Common controller simply turns on or off the blower. The PID can control speed of blower stepless, temperature fluctuation can be as less as 1F.
Also you can set maximum output of a blower by programming a parameter of Udc. a 50 CFM blower will fit all pit. Say Udc as 50%,60%,70% , the 50 CFM fan will indeed become to 10 CFM, 20 CFM 30 CFM fans.
Following is a real case
As there are too many data to input, better to write down on paper.
Pit Temperature Stages:
Stage I, 140F , 240 Minutes, low temperature Alarm 130F, high temperature alarm 150F
Stage II, 160F, 120 Minutes, low temperature Alarm 150F, high temperature alarm 170F
Stage III, 170F, 60 Minutes, low temperature Alarm 160F, high temperature alarm 180F
Stage IV, 200F, 30 Minutes, low temperature Alarm 190F, high temperature alarm 210F
Meat Temperature Stages:
Stage I, 130F , 60 Minutes,
Stage II, 140F, 240 Minutes,
Stage III, 180F, 30 Minutes,
Stage IV, 130F, 600 Minutes,
Whenever meat reaches to 130F, the meat proble will take over control of fan. it will keep meat at 130F for 60 minutes, then keep meat temperature at 140F for 240 minutes, and then raise to 180F for 30 minutes, and finally lower to 130F as keeping temperature
During full course, the pit temperature is limied under 225F .You will never worry about overburn of your meat.
You can choice display in F or C.
There is a shutter inside the fan adapters. It will close air inlet automatically when fan stops

If you are familiar with PID thermostat, you can do your own settings of other parameters. In case you set all parameters in mess, you can reset to original settings.

If you want to have strength of fire by your eyes or your experience, you can simply press Auto/Man button to use manual mode. Simply by pressing "+" or "-" button, you adjust speed of blower and in turn strength of fire.

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woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:16 AM
Heightlights of Senior:
1. 4 temperature stages of pit, and 4 temperature stages of meat
2.Whenever meat temperature reaches to set value, the meat probe will take over control of fan. then You keep meat at desired temp. other than the pit. Your purpose is smoking the meat, not the pit
3.PID variable voltage outlet, the fan will run faster or slower, other than competitor's simply on/off relay
4. Adjustable maximum fan speed, a big fan can suit for small, medium, and large pits.
5.Shutter inside the fan adapter. When fan stops running, the shutter will close air inlet automatically

woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:20 AM
Mainly in black, 2 pieces of white, purple, blue.
Which color do you like most.
Your answer will help next production

Amigatec
01-04-2014, 08:23 AM
I like black better, also it would be nice if the PV and SV were name Pit Temp and Set temp like with the Jr.

woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:28 AM
Operation manual may help to understand Senior better
http://www.allchinas.com/senior/manual.htm

woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:32 AM
If you can post reviews with photography and videos on major BBQ forums, Twitter, facebook, youtube, when your each post attracts 1000 hits, you will get a free set. If your post attracts 5000 hits, you will get 5 free sets. If your post attracts 10000 hits, you will get 7 free sets. Hits over 10,000 to be discussed.

QTalk may attract more visitors.
Some of my topic had attracted 10000+ visittors
Weber and Guru topic attracted hundreds of thousands of visitors.
So my offer above must be a real offer.

I set aside 20 free sets for free. First come, first win

Amigatec
01-04-2014, 08:35 AM
Are the probes the same as the Jr?

woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:38 AM
Are the probes the same as the Jr?
same

woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:56 AM
I like following posts very much, I will give them free sample for testing

#1. Lion / (Tiger) Questions and Answers from a satisfied customer (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6) thegizzard 06-27-2013 02:38 AM by sirach38 Go to last post 79 4,487

#2. My Golden Dog review (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... Last Page)
Toronto 06-26-2013 01:01 PM by woodpelletsmoker Go to last post 102 6,633

#3. My review of Lion v4 (Multi-page thread 1 2 3) Thread Rating: 2 votes, 3.00 average.ChrisH 05-22-2013 08:29 AM by woodpelletsmoker Go to last post 32 2,612

#4. My review of the Golden Tiger (Multi-page thread 1 2) colonel00 02-17-2013 08:28 PM by jetfxr27 Go to last post
17 3,096
#5. I owe one set to pixcolor

woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:18 PM
The QMaster-Senior is an upgrade of old Golden-WOLF
There are already many discussions on WOLF.
Senior adds beep on/off button,
and also adds 4 temp. stages for meat.
and easy programming

woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 08:40 PM
Adopt Sous Vide theory to Low & Slow smoking.

In Sous Vide, you heat meat at 130 to 140F for long hours, say 12 to 72 hours.
But in traditional Low & Slow Smoking, you heat meat to internal temp. to as high as 210F, then foil the meat and place in a cooler box.
140F can make meat much tender.
Why do not smoke meat at 140 F for long hours.
Answer is that you can not keep meat at 140F for 12 to 72 hours by your smoker.
So far all smokers can only control temp. of smoker itself.
Most temperature controllers can only "TELL" internal Temp. of meat, but can not control IT.
NOW situation is changed.
By QMaster-Senior, you can keep meat internal temp. at 140F for 10 hours or more in your smoker. You can set pit temp.(SC1) at 225F, and meat temp. (P1) at 140F, and when Internal Temp of meat reaches to 140F(P1), the Senior will hold the meat at 140F for 600 minutes(T1).
SC1, P1,T1 can be programmed by yourself.

Trust me. It is another revolution on BBQ history.
Hope you and me are pioneers in new Double Low&Slow Smoking.

woodpelletsmoker
01-04-2014, 09:02 PM
You can pay to eBay@allchinas.com directly via paypal.com
If you are from States, or UK, or Australia, you can click this eBay link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=141153770583
This way I can take use of a special mailing service for eBay, which is faster and safer.
I can leave me message in Paypal payment which fan adapter you need.
Also you can upgrade 10 CFM fan to 50 CFM fan, extra cost is $10

Q Junkie
01-07-2014, 06:41 PM
I was just wondering if these controllers can be powered by a slightly higher DC voltage such as 14-18 volt?

woodpelletsmoker
01-07-2014, 09:15 PM
I was just wondering if these controllers can be powered by a slightly higher DC voltage such as 14-18 volt?

no. it is designed around 12VDC.
We prefer Li-Battery, portable and safe compared with 110CVAC. Especially when you have kids or pets around.
There are 12VDC 4 a.h Li batteries on eBay, which is under $10, and mail cost under $10. It powers my 12"x16" grill size offset at 225F for 10+ hours

pixcolor
01-07-2014, 10:04 PM
So would something like this, High quality New DC 12V Portable 9800mAh Li-ion Super Rechargeable Battery Pack work?
I found it on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/quality-Portable-9800mAh-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B00CK5L3GI/ref=pd_cp_ba_1

woodpelletsmoker
01-07-2014, 11:25 PM
So would something like this, High quality New DC 12V Portable 9800mAh Li-ion Super Rechargeable Battery Pack work?
I found it on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/quality-Portable-9800mAh-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B00CK5L3GI/ref=pd_cp_ba_1
9800mAh is big enough.
I am using 4000mAH myself.

Q Junkie
01-08-2014, 10:44 AM
Ok, next question.
If the power is interrupted by unplugging the battery and plugging in another battery, would the controller maintain the programmed settings and continue the cook?

woodpelletsmoker
01-08-2014, 05:18 PM
Ok, next question.
If the power is interrupted by unplugging the battery and plugging in another battery, would the controller maintain the programmed settings and continue the cook?

Controller has "memory", it will continue uncompleted program.
Before you open the cover of smoker, you can switch off the controller.
After you check the meat, you can close the cover, then you can turn on the switch.
By changing battery, it is same as turn on/off switch

If you want to start over, you can press button of "AT/M",
New Program will start

ChrisH
01-10-2014, 04:15 AM
I like following posts very much, I will give them free sample for testing

#1. Lion / (Tiger) Questions and Answers from a satisfied customer (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6) thegizzard 06-27-2013 02:38 AM by sirach38 Go to last post 79 4,487

#2. My Golden Dog review (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... Last Page)
Toronto 06-26-2013 01:01 PM by woodpelletsmoker Go to last post 102 6,633

#3. My review of Lion v4 (Multi-page thread 1 2 3) Thread Rating: 2 votes, 3.00 average.ChrisH 05-22-2013 08:29 AM by woodpelletsmoker Go to last post 32 2,612

#4. My review of the Golden Tiger (Multi-page thread 1 2) colonel00 02-17-2013 08:28 PM by jetfxr27 Go to last post
17 3,096
#5. I owe one set to pixcolor

Thank you for this very generous offer, I will gladly test a QMaster senior and then post a review for you. I use an UDS so I think I need adapter C. I don't mind which color, but if I have a choice I would go with black. Do I need to send you my address?

I am using my Golden Lion right now - still going strong.

woodpelletsmoker
01-10-2014, 06:01 AM
Thank you for this very generous offer, I will gladly test a QMaster senior and then post a review for you. I use an UDS so I think I need adapter C. I don't mind which color, but if I have a choice I would go with black. Do I need to send you my address?

I am using my Golden Lion right now - still going strong.
please click http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=141153770583&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
This way I can take use of a special mailing service, which is faster and safer.
Senior is basically same as LION but without WIFI.
But Senior has 4 meat temp. stages too
Also Senior adds alarm sound on/off button, neighbor friendly.
Hope you can post reviews under Qtalk.
Pictures and videos are welcomed.

ChrisH
01-10-2014, 05:59 PM
please click http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=141153770583&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
This way I can take use of a special mailing service, which is faster and safer.
Senior is basically same as LION but without WIFI.
But Senior has 4 meat temp. stages too
Also Senior adds alarm sound on/off button, neighbor friendly.
Hope you can post reviews under Qtalk.
Pictures and videos are welcomed.

Just paid. Forgot to mention in the PayPal that I need the UDS coupling, adapter C.

Will certainly post a review in Qtalk.

deguerre
01-10-2014, 06:24 PM
I really like the look of the unit. Especially in black. Makes it look like a fun toy for adults with the row of colored buttons. :thumb::thumb:

woodpelletsmoker
01-10-2014, 09:57 PM
New offer to the old customers of DOG, WOLF,TIGER, LION, RHINO, ELEPHANT:

All You can buy Senior at $99 free air mail.
If you can post testimonial/review, and if one post gets 1000 hits, I will refund you $99.

This offer is good till further notification

woodpelletsmoker
01-11-2014, 09:35 AM
Outlet of Senior is variable voltage in PID control mode.
The fan will run faster or slower.
Other competitors have simple on/off relay, the fan simply either runs or stops.

Attached is a video of old version of Golden-Tiger, with wireless remote control
Senior is upgraded version of Tiger.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=481393648636493&set=vb.481364958639362&type=2&theater

TerryMac
01-13-2014, 06:40 PM
What is the pricing for members of the forum and how do we access it? Thanks!

woodpelletsmoker
01-13-2014, 10:41 PM
What is the pricing for members of the forum and how do we access it? Thanks!

Same price to everyone.
But if you post review/testimonial on BBQ forums, facebook, twitter, and youtube. If one post on youtube or BBQ forum attracts 1000 visitors, I will send you a free set, if 5000 hits, I will give you 5 set free.

GURU DigiQ post has hundreds of thousands hits.
so 1000 hits must be an easy job

woodpelletsmoker
01-13-2014, 10:43 PM
Important Change: offer of Free set for hits does not include Facebook and twitter.
People there seem not interested in BBQ, just a social gesture

woodpelletsmoker
01-13-2014, 11:00 PM
What is the pricing for members of the forum and how do we access it? Thanks!

QMaster-Senior package for BGE $168
DigiQ is $325, Amazon link http://www.amazon.com/Big-Green-Egg-Guru-DigiQ/dp/B00A3BQ6EU/ref=pd_sbs_k_3

Technically, Senior has outlet of variable voltage, in turn variable fan speed.
DigiQ has on/off relay, fan either runs or stops

Senior can define maximum output of fan. Say if you buy a 50 CFM fan, extra cost $10. By programming a parameter of Hdc as 30%, 50%, 80%, your fan is indeed acts as 5,10,30 CFM. This way a 50 CFM fan can suit for small medium and large pits.

or just look at the size of AC/DC adapter.

TeeNoM
01-14-2014, 12:09 AM
I've just ordered one, went for the large fan. Can't wait to smoke with this....

woodpelletsmoker
01-16-2014, 10:55 AM
Why special offer of $99 is only given to old customers

Dated back in 2009, none knew me in states.
In other BBQ forums I was treated very badly and people thought me a big moron.
Old customers bought my products under such condition.
Some left me positive feedbacks
Others even helped me without any payback from me.
They deserve this special offer.

Dear new Brethren, Please be understanding.

Amigatec
01-17-2014, 06:17 AM
Got the Senior yesterday, plan to try it out this weekend.

Amigatec
01-17-2014, 06:46 AM
So would something like this, High quality New DC 12V Portable 9800mAh Li-ion Super Rechargeable Battery Pack work?
I found it on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/quality-Portable-9800mAh-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B00CK5L3GI/ref=pd_cp_ba_1

The reviews for this battery pack are not good.

Amigatec
01-20-2014, 06:54 AM
Help my Qmaster Sr has quit working.

I set it up this morning and turned it on and off a few times to check it, and now all I get it this.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/amigatec/QMaster/IMG_0154_zps376367de.jpg

woodpelletsmoker
01-20-2014, 07:24 AM
Can you check with a car battery, 12 VDC again.
If not good, I will send you a new replacement

Amigatec
01-20-2014, 07:48 AM
I tried it with the power supply from the QMaster Jr, and same thing. The PS for the Jr is the same as the Sr, I also tried the PS from the Sr on the Jr, and it works.

I believe it is the switch that is bad. As I was turning it back on it acted like the switch was not working correctly.

Amigatec
01-20-2014, 08:27 AM
Did a default reset and it's working again.

SmokeShow
01-20-2014, 09:38 AM
My senior came in a few days ago, and I can't seem to get the temps calibrated. Also, even after setting the minimum fan speed per web instructions, the fan still only runs at my maximum setting. Any help is appreciated.

Amigatec
01-20-2014, 09:46 AM
Maybe I can help. What have you done so far as far as settings??

woodpelletsmoker
01-20-2014, 09:57 AM
My senior came in a few days ago, and I can't seem to get the temps calibrated. Also, even after setting the minimum fan speed per web instructions, the fan still only runs at my maximum setting. Any help is appreciated.
After calibrating, press button of "AT/M".
place both probes in boiling water, make both showing temp. as 212F

Amigatec
01-20-2014, 10:01 AM
Working good now.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/amigatec/QMaster/IMG_0157_zpsd3072256.jpg

woodpelletsmoker
01-20-2014, 10:02 AM
My senior came in a few days ago, and I can't seem to get the temps calibrated. Also, even after setting the minimum fan speed per web instructions, the fan still only runs at my maximum setting. Any help is appreciated.

The fan will run faster or slower according to its own P,I,D math calculation.

But you must define minimum speed to avoid burning the fan, the parameter is Udc.

Also you can define maximum speed of fan by parameter of Hdc, say 40%,60% ect

Amigatec
01-20-2014, 10:06 AM
I can hear mine speeding up and slowing down. Seems to do it more when bring the pit up to temp the first time.

SmokeShow
01-20-2014, 10:22 AM
The probes were reading cool initially so I put both probes in boiling water and the readings were in the low 190's. I adjusted the pb1 and pb2 values to get the temps to 212. After I removed them and they cooled to room temp(70 F)they were reading around 90. I did a reset and now they are back to where they were originally, Which is about ten degrees too low at room temp.

I haven't installed it on my smoker yet, just used my hands to heat and cool the pit probe to get the fan to start and stop. Maybe that is why I have not noticed the fan slowing and speeding. Thanks guys!

woodpelletsmoker
01-20-2014, 10:30 AM
The probes were reading cool initially so I put both probes in boiling water and the readings were in the low 190's. I adjusted the pb1 and pb2 values to get the temps to 212. After I removed them and they cooled to room temp(70 F)they were reading around 90. I did a reset and now they are back to where they were originally, Which is about ten degrees too low at room temp.

I haven't installed it on my smoker yet, just used my hands to heat and cool the pit probe to get the fan to start and stop. Maybe that is why I have not noticed the fan slowing and speeding. Thanks guys!
Usually you shall smoke meat at 225F, so calibrate at boiling point at 212F is enough.
The controller will predict the tendency or the "speed" of temperature changes, then decide the speed of fan.

Amigatec
01-20-2014, 11:36 AM
When I tested mine on the Jr it right on the money the PB setting was -006.

SmokeShow
01-20-2014, 08:29 PM
Is the pb setting the only thing I change to calibrate? Are there any other settings beside udc that I need to adjust? What do you guys think would be the best temp to calibrate the meat probe to?

woodpelletsmoker
01-20-2014, 08:37 PM
Is the pb setting the only thing I change to calibrate? Are there any other settings beside udc that I need to adjust? What do you guys think would be the best temp to calibrate the meat probe to?

You need to set pb, Hdc, Udc.

For advanced users, you can adjust P,I,D.
Best combination of P,I,D will make temp.get stable faster and temp. swing minimum.

But to tune P,I,D is a process of trial and error

woodpelletsmoker
01-20-2014, 08:38 PM
You can calibrate pit probe at boiling water at 212F,
and meat probe at your target I.T. temp with other thermometer

Amigatec
01-23-2014, 11:09 AM
You say when the meat temp is reached, the meat controls the pit, can you explain that better?

Thanks!!!

woodpelletsmoker
01-23-2014, 11:24 AM
You can set Pit temp. at 225F, and meat at 180F.

First the fan is controlled by pit probe to keep the pit at 225F.
During mean time, the meat will increase its internal temp.
When the meat I.T. reaches to 180F, the fan is controlled by meat probe.
It will keep meat at 180F for long hours.

Usually I will keep Brisket Internal Temp. at 140F for 6 hours.

In sous Vide, you can "boil" beef at 140F for as long as 72 hours.
I just adopt Sous Vide theory to Low&Slow smoking.
Usually 130F shall be medium, and 140F as medium well done and never over 150F.

Just have a try, you may find a new way to smoking

woodpelletsmoker
01-23-2014, 11:31 AM
Traditionally, when meat reaches to 190F, you take it out of smoker, wrap it, and place it in the cooler for 1 to 3 hours. You indeed continue to cook the meat by the heat of meat itsself. 3 hours later the meat temp. may lower to 120F. It is nothing but you continue to cook the meat from 190F to 120F for 3 hours. It is not scientific way.
Why not just keep it at 140F for 3 hours.
You may try 120F,130F,140F,150F for 1 hour, 3 hours, 6 hours ect.
and you will find your favorite way, the right texture and taste and doness

pixcolor
01-23-2014, 11:55 AM
You can set Pit temp. at 225F, and meat at 180F.

First the fan is controlled by pit probe to keep the pit at 225F.
During mean time, the meat will increase its internal temp.
When the meat I.T. reaches to 180F, the fan is controlled by meat probe.
It will keep meat at 180F for long hours.

Usually I will keep Brisket Internal Temp. at 140F for 6 hours.

In sous Vide, you can "boil" beef at 140F for as long as 72 hours.
I just adopt Sous Vide theory to Low&Slow smoking.
Usually 130F shall be medium, and 140F as medium well done and never over 150F.

Just have a try, you may find a new way to smoking

So, when the meat reaches your target, say 190, the controller will bring the pit temperature down to 190 also. Do you then re-set the controller to 140, to keep it there for another 6 hours?

Amigatec
01-23-2014, 01:56 PM
You can set Pit temp. at 225F, and meat at 180F.

First the fan is controlled by pit probe to keep the pit at 225F.
During mean time, the meat will increase its internal temp.
When the meat I.T. reaches to 180F, the fan is controlled by meat probe.
It will keep meat at 180F for long hours.

Usually I will keep Brisket Internal Temp. at 140F for 6 hours.

In sous Vide, you can "boil" beef at 140F for as long as 72 hours.
I just adopt Sous Vide theory to Low&Slow smoking.
Usually 130F shall be medium, and 140F as medium well done and never over 150F.

Just have a try, you may find a new way to smoking


So if I set pit probe stage 1 PV1 to 225 with SC1 set to 240 then stage 2, 3, and 4 to 0.
And meat probe P1 to 180 and T1 to 120.

It will run at 225 for 4 hours or until meat reaches 180 and then hold at 180 for 2 hours?

Is this correct?

woodpelletsmoker
01-23-2014, 08:20 PM
So, when the meat reaches your target, say 190, the controller will bring the pit temperature down to 190 also. Do you then re-set the controller to 140, to keep it there for another 6 hours?


So, when the meat reaches your target P1, say 190, the controller will "KEEP THE MEAT AT 190F" for period of T1 minutes. During meantime pit temperature shall be a little higher than 190F. But real pit temperature is not defined. During this period MAXIMUM pit temperature is limited under P5.
You do not need to do any reset or re-program.
The Senior will do the job by itsself.

In my case, I set pit @ 225 F for 9999 minutes( I use one temp. stage only, SC1=225, and SC2=0)
meat @120F (P1) for 1 hours(T1=60 minutes)
then meat @130(P2) for 2 hours(T2=120 minutes)
then meat @140 (P3) for 4 hours(T3=240 minutes)
last meat @120F (P4) for 20 hours(T4), this is indeed a keeping temp. before serve
P5=225F, P5 is MAXIMUM temp. of pit during meat probe controls the fan

woodpelletsmoker
01-23-2014, 08:25 PM
So if I set pit probe stage 1 PV1 to 225 with SC1 set to 240 then stage 2, 3, and 4 to 0.
And meat probe P1 to 180 and T1 to 120.

It will run at 225 for 4 hours or until meat reaches 180 and then hold at 180 for 2 hours?

Is this correct?

It will run at 225 for 4 hours or until meat reaches 180 and then hold at 180 for 2 hours?

SC1=225F, TC1=240(minutes) , AL1=215(low temp. alarm), AH1=235(high temp. alarm),
SC2=0
you do not need to set SC3, and SC4.
If SC2 =0, SC2,SC3,SC4 will be ignored

P1=180F, T1=120 minutes
P2=0
P5=225F

If P2=0, P2,P3,P4 will be ignored

Toronto
01-23-2014, 09:52 PM
So if I set pit probe stage 1 PV1 to 225 with SC1 set to 240 then stage 2, 3, and 4 to 0.
And meat probe P1 to 180 and T1 to 120.

It will run at 225 for 4 hours or until meat reaches 180 and then hold at 180 for 2 hours?

Is this correct?

Ya thats how I am understanding it as well.

woodpelletsmoker
01-24-2014, 12:32 AM
Guess it is a typing error.
It shall be
SC1=225, TC1=240, SC2=0
P1=180, T1=120, P2=0

Amigatec
01-24-2014, 04:18 AM
Ok I think I have it figured out.

thanks!!!

Amigatec
01-24-2014, 04:24 AM
You also mention setting udc to avoid burning the fan. Does that mean that if it is set to 0, the fire from the pit can melt the fan?

woodpelletsmoker
01-24-2014, 05:04 AM
You also mention setting udc to avoid burning the fan. Does that mean that if it is set to 0, the fire from the pit can melt the fan?

No, I do not mean that.

The fan will run above certain voltage, say 5VDC.
If the outlet of Senior is less than 5 VDC, the fan will not run, the electricity power will transfer to heat, and this heat will burn the electric circuit or motor coil. You can take Udc as this "5 VDC"

Amigatec
01-24-2014, 07:06 AM
No, I do not mean that.

The fan will run above certain voltage, say 5VDC.
If the outlet of Senior is less than 5 VDC, the fan will not run, the electricity power will transfer to heat, and this heat will burn the electric circuit or motor coil. You can take Udc as this "5 VDC"

So what would be a good setting for it? And will it shut off with the min set?

woodpelletsmoker
01-24-2014, 07:13 AM
So what would be a good setting for it? And will it shut off with the min set?
please read the operational manual
and pay attention to:

Setting Mimimum Fan Speed(UDC)
Press "SET1" for 9 seconds, till appearing "P", press "SET1" a few times will appear "Udc", press "+" or "-" till motor starts to run, press "SET2" to save

Porcine Perfection
02-13-2014, 03:37 PM
Sent Wang a PM but will post it here in case someone else knows. So I received a QMaster Senior to replace a junior. I need to put on a different fan plug. There is a white striped wire and a black wire. Is the white striped wire positive?

Amigatec
02-13-2014, 03:55 PM
The fan plugs should be the same, I have both and have interchanged them.

Porcine Perfection
02-13-2014, 04:03 PM
Not the case for me. He included plugs so I know it needs changed, just wanted to verify polarity.

woodpelletsmoker
02-13-2014, 07:11 PM
pin size of outlet is different.
Junior is 2.1mm and Senior is 2.5 mm

woodpelletsmoker
02-17-2014, 06:38 AM
I just realized that Guru DX2 is made in China and the package price is $329
Price of bare DX2 is $276
Found from: http://www.amazon.com/Big-Green-Egg-BBQ-Guru/dp/B006NZUN8A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392632823&sr=8-2&keywords=bbq+controller

Same package price of QMaster-Senior is $158
Price of bare Senior is $99

nz120
02-17-2014, 03:43 PM
Hi

I've just received my kit (two probes, controller, fan, no remote). Not quite sure what it is now called but I think I'm on the right thread.
Several weeks ago when I ordered it I read discussion of an improved manual, but I can't now find it. With all respect to the manufacturer, has someone pulled together all of the various suggestions, hints and instructions into a single english language manual?

As well as sorting out my cooking program, it looks like I need to
- check temperature calibration of probes in boiling water
- check the fan low voltage limit to avoid burnout
- check the PID settings
Anything else to remember before I attempt my first long cook?

thanks
Andrew
Auckland
New Zealand

woodpelletsmoker
02-17-2014, 10:12 PM
Hi

I've just received my kit (two probes, controller, fan, no remote). Not quite sure what it is now called but I think I'm on the right thread.
Several weeks ago when I ordered it I read discussion of an improved manual, but I can't now find it. With all respect to the manufacturer, has someone pulled together all of the various suggestions, hints and instructions into a single english language manual?

As well as sorting out my cooking program, it looks like I need to
- check temperature calibration of probes in boiling water
- check the fan low voltage limit to avoid burnout
- check the PID settings
Anything else to remember before I attempt my first long cook?

thanks
Andrew
Auckland
New Zealand

You must set Udc.
You may need to set Hdc according to size of your smoker
At moment you do not need to care about P,I,D
Advanced user can tune P,I,D to best performance
Manual at http://allchinas.com/senior/Senior-Manual.pdf

woodpelletsmoker
02-17-2014, 10:15 PM
best keep the probe under 200C.
In manual mode, the temperature can easily be over 300, and 500C is not uncommon.
Then you will burn your probes.
Remember withdraw your probe out of smoker when manual mode.

SpiralGalaxy
02-19-2014, 12:59 AM
Hello,

I purchased a QMaster Junior a wile ago but I'm very impressed with the QMaster Seniors duel probes and control system. My question is do I qualify for the reduced price version and if so how do I pay for it.

Thank You

Bryan

woodpelletsmoker
02-19-2014, 01:48 AM
Hello,

I purchased a QMaster Junior a wile ago but I'm very impressed with the QMaster Seniors duel probes and control system. My question is do I qualify for the reduced price version and if so how do I pay for it.

Thank You

Bryan

promotional offer has ended.
As a repeated order, I can upgrade the fan to 50 CFM and 2 more free probes,
which is $30 plus mail free.
You can buy from my eBay store http://stores.ebay.com/pellet-pits?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

SpiralGalaxy
02-19-2014, 05:26 AM
promotional offer has ended.
As a repeated order, I can upgrade the fan to 50 CFM and 2 more free probes,
which is $30 plus mail free.
You can buy from my eBay store http://stores.ebay.com/pellet-pits?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

Thank You for that.

Purchased one now but could not avoid paying postage.

Bryan

woodpelletsmoker
02-19-2014, 05:40 AM
Thank You for that.

Purchased one now but could not avoid paying postage.

Bryan

I mean that you save extra shipping cost of 2 probes, and big fan.
You need to pay shipping cost of regular Senior package

nz120
02-19-2014, 04:49 PM
Thank you for your prompt reply and reference to new manual.

One thing that I don't fully understand is whether the Low Temp alarm is still active during MEAT-PRobe controlled phase. i.e.

If I set up for a simple cook
PIT Temperature 225
When MEAT Temperature gets to 190 then hold at 190 for 60 minutes
then hold MEAT at 140 for long time, with settings

SC1 225
TC1 9999
SC2 0 etc

P1 190
T1 60
P2 140
T2 600
....
P5 250

If during the MEAT Controlled phase (i.e. after the MEAT first gets to 190) if the Fuel is run out and the PIT temperature drops below 200 with the AL1 Low temperature alarm still sound?

woodpelletsmoker
02-19-2014, 05:07 PM
no alarm after meat probe takes over controlling

woodpelletsmoker
02-26-2014, 06:17 PM
Attention please Brethren Jar61mon.
I got reply as below:
Jar61mon has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

morkdach
11-02-2014, 04:45 PM
i have the qmaster senior would like to run a SSR instead of fans.
is this possable.
Thanks:help:

woodpelletsmoker
11-02-2014, 07:09 PM
i have the qmaster senior would like to run a SSR instead of fans.
is this possable.
Thanks:help:

Yes you can. Just set P=0

jbryanks
11-09-2014, 08:54 AM
I have a 1st generation "Golden Wolf" that I have never used . Came with no directions, Could I send it back and get it modernized to be more like the Senior

gaspipe1
11-09-2014, 10:29 AM
I think it's time to pull the trigger. I just can not get my UDS to keep the temp in the 225* range over night. I have try'd different mods and still no use.

I have a UDS with 2 caps and ball valve. Can you please provide a link for the best/current deal for this set up. I want the two probe (meat and pit) system with a 50 CFM fan so I can use later on with a larger pit.

Thank you
Gaspare

woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2014, 10:36 AM
I have a 1st generation "Golden Wolf" that I have never used . Came with no directions, Could I send it back and get it modernized to be more like the Senior

The function of WOLF is same as Senior.
You can refer to both manuals
http://allchinas.com/probe/manual.htm
and http://allchinas.com/senior/
Or tell me your plan and I can help you to program it

woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2014, 10:40 AM
I think it's time to pull the trigger. I just can not get my UDS to keep the temp in the 225* range over night. I have try'd different mods and still no use.

I have a UDS with 2 caps and ball valve. Can you please provide a link for the best/current deal for this set up. I want the two probe (meat and pit) system with a 50 CFM fan so I can use later on with a larger pit.

Thank you
Gaspare

Senior, dual probes, 50 CFM blower, blower adapter C, $148, air mail $30, total $178
To place order, you can pay to sale@allchinas.com via www.paypal.com
Please remember leave a message of "Senior +C + 50 CFM"

This is the best price at present.
ouI have find a few sales partners and I will quit direct sale, or at least same retail price as partners.

gaspipe1
11-09-2014, 12:12 PM
Is this the one that comes with the weatherproof metal box?

gaspipe1
11-09-2014, 01:49 PM
So you want to set the fan to the LOWEST "Udc" setting and start to press the "+" higher till the fan operates. Once the fan starts press "SET2" to lock this in.

Is this correct? I would not want to burn the fan.

please read the operational manual
and pay attention to:

Setting Mimimum Fan Speed(UDC)
Press "SET1" for 9 seconds, till appearing "P", press "SET1" a few times will appear "Udc", press "+" or "-" till motor starts to run, press "SET2" to save

gaspipe1
11-09-2014, 04:11 PM
I just ordered it, in paypal I sent it as a friend/family to save you some fees. I hope this includes the metal box for bad weather.

Looking fwd to this! Thanks.

Senior, dual probes, 50 CFM blower, blower adapter C, $148, air mail $30, total $178
To place order, you can pay to sale@allchinas.com via www.paypal.com
Please remember leave a message of "Senior +C + 50 CFM"

This is the best price at present.
ouI have find a few sales partners and I will quit direct sale, or at least same retail price as partners.

woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2014, 06:49 PM
Is this the one that comes with the weatherproof metal box?

Metal box is $30, air mail $30
There are two pieces left.
The 2 pieces are designed for BGE

woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2014, 06:51 PM
So you want to set the fan to the LOWEST "Udc" setting and start to press the "+" higher till the fan operates. Once the fan starts press "SET2" to lock this in.

Is this correct? I would not want to burn the fan.

Correct

woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2014, 06:55 PM
I just ordered it, in paypal I sent it as a friend/family to save you some fees. I hope this includes the metal box for bad weather.

Looking fwd to this! Thanks.

Thanks!
But please send me mailing address and tel no. by eMail.
Also please confirm whether you want the metal box or not.
It is for BGE and extra cost is $60

jbryanks
11-09-2014, 06:58 PM
I ordered the senior with 50 cfm fan and adapter for large off set smoker

woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2014, 06:59 PM
You can find a plastic box, to put all in a plastic box.

woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2014, 07:06 PM
I ordered the senior with 50 cfm fan and adapter for large off set smoker

That is even better, you can use manual at http://allchinas.com/senior/

woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2014, 07:19 PM
I ordered the senior with 50 cfm fan and adapter for large off set smoker
Got it and you are welcomed and Thanks
but WOLF can do the same job as Senior.

I can send you blower adapter A or C.
Please check by your self and let me know which you need.
I do not know your offset. You may need to do extra to attach A or C to it.
Also better send me your tel no. too, which is for your local postman

dp6fan
11-12-2014, 11:42 PM
My Q master senior arrived in the mail tonight, I am very excited to try it out over the weekend.

First impression after opening the box. it seems to be of higher quality than I expected.

Very well packed.

Will post pictures when I figure out how to use it.:thumb:

morkdach
11-16-2014, 05:30 PM
Yes you can. Just set P=0
SETTING UP A SSR.
I set p to 0 and have no output at all.
Any ideas:idea:
Thanks