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smokinit
08-19-2013, 12:51 PM
Ok guys any help hear would be greatly appreciated. I have looked at a few but some Ya's and Na's would help. We are also looking at a custom build with Extreme Trailers but it looks like we get more for the buck with a Toy Hauler.Recomendations on makes and models would help also.

RLTXBBQ
08-19-2013, 12:55 PM
They are the ultimate imo, had a 28 ft Campmaster a while back it was awesome for cook offs, best of both worlds but only if you have a roll in or built in cooker where you dont need to haul another trailer pit.

Goddahavit
08-19-2013, 02:01 PM
a side ramp would be cool...

smokinit
08-19-2013, 02:05 PM
a side ramp would be cool...

Haven't seen that as an option on any of them.

sitnfat
08-19-2013, 02:07 PM
They make them with small side ramps. Blue Bloods have one.

Vindii
08-19-2013, 02:07 PM
Im in the same boat as you. I'm looking for a toy hauler for next year.

smokinit
08-19-2013, 02:19 PM
They make them with small side ramps. Blue Bloods have one.

Any Idea what brand it is??

Teamfour
08-19-2013, 02:22 PM
There are lots of side load toy haulers. Here is one that came up in a Google search:

http://www.kz-rv.com/inferno/3306T.html

http://www.keystonerv.com/outback/models/310tb/?alttemplate=floorplan

Tiki Wolf
08-19-2013, 02:25 PM
I have a toy hauler with a side ramp that I may be looking to get rid of next year. I'm going to be in New Holland this weekend. If you're around, you're welcome to check it out.

smokinit
08-19-2013, 02:25 PM
Thanks man!!

Goddahavit
08-19-2013, 02:26 PM
i only mention it because i have to unload then back into spots, if your going to cook on the ramp then it doesn't matter except for the bigger space.

cant wait to see the new headquarters!!

BaggerBill
08-19-2013, 02:30 PM
I have a Sportsmen TH 22 Toy Hauler. I bought it for the motorcycles but now it serves double duty. The downside to this one is that I have a Meadow Creek TS120p (push around) with warming box and insulated firebox. It rolls nice on a flat surface but it is a pain to push it up the ramp because of the extra weight. I can smoke in the warming box so I have two stacks. The stacks sit about 3 inches higher than the door opening. I have to lift the front end up to tilt the stacks to get it thru the door. I hope that makes sense!

smokinit
08-19-2013, 02:32 PM
See what you started dill weed:tsk: We will most likely be cooking on the deck. Looking for the most interior room we can have in the cargo area. Want to add a prep table and Cooler.

smokinit
08-19-2013, 02:36 PM
This is different.
http://www.kz-rv.com/rock-climber/index.html

Ford
08-19-2013, 02:41 PM
Haven't seen that as an option on any of them.

James built mine with a side ramp. They call it stage door. Awning over it and jack stands to level. Adds lots of space to cook.

Ford
08-19-2013, 02:47 PM
Things to consider. Weight, wind resistance on bumper pull vs 5th wheel. Also a 26' with 4' tongue is a lot harder to maneuver than a 38' 5th wheel. For trailers that big you need at least a 250 diesel and I'd suggest a 350 diesel. Extreme can make you a 5th wheel that gets the best of both worlds but its pricey. I'd seriously look at a 5th wheel toy hauler in the 30 to 34 range if possible.

Ron_L
08-19-2013, 02:58 PM
This is different.
http://www.kz-rv.com/rock-climber/index.html

Two issues with that...

1. The fold down must be out in order to use it, so that eliminates most of the cargo area for use.

2. Anything you put in the cargo area goes directly into the tongue weight. A 3/4 ton or bigger would be mandatory.

smokinit
08-19-2013, 03:06 PM
Things to consider. Weight, wind resistance on bumper pull vs 5th wheel. Also a 26' with 4' tongue is a lot harder to maneuver than a 38' 5th wheel. For trailers that big you need at least a 250 diesel and I'd suggest a 350 diesel. Extreme can make you a 5th wheel that gets the best of both worlds but its pricey. I'd seriously look at a 5th wheel toy hauler in the 30 to 34 range if possible.


We will keep it to 24 to 26 and we have a 250 Super Duty that pulls our 11,000 pound trialer now with easy so this thing will be a breeze.

smokinit
08-19-2013, 03:06 PM
Two issues with that...

1. The fold down must be out in order to use it, so that eliminates most of the cargo area for use.

2. Anything you put in the cargo area goes directly into the tongue weight. A 3/4 ton or bigger would be mandatory.


Ya just though it was diffrent not for us!!

Balls Casten
08-19-2013, 03:12 PM
We've had good luck with "Work and Plays"
http://www.forestriverinc.com/ToyHaulerTravelTrailers/WorkandPlay/default.aspx

lots of toy haulers listed here
http://www.toyhaulerfinds.com/bumper-pull-toy-haulers

Uncle Buds BBQ
08-19-2013, 03:25 PM
This is the one I have been using for almost a year now.
http://www.kz-rv.com/mxt/index.html

I have the MXT20 which is a 20' camper plus the bumper and tongue comes in right at 24.5'.

Cast Iron Chef
08-19-2013, 03:31 PM
Interesting read. I am a few years away but keep looking to see what is out there. I had never seen the side ramp before either.

I was also wondering about 5th wheel vs bumper pull. Is it mainly drag and maneuverability?

smokinit
08-19-2013, 03:34 PM
Interesting read. I am a few years away but keep looking to see what is out there. I had never seen the side ramp before either.

I was also wondering about 5th wheel vs bumper pull. Is it mainly drag and maneuverability?

Fith Wheel is just to big for us I am pretty good getting into tight spots the bumper pull will do just fine. A side ramp with a full size cargo area would be sweet.

Ron_L
08-19-2013, 03:37 PM
We have a Cherokee Wolf Pack 19wp. 25' including the tongue and about 33 ft. with the ramp down. It is the perfect size for us.

The 23WP is nice if you want something a little bigger.

http://www.forestriverinc.com/ToyHaulerTravelTrailers/WolfPack/Default.aspx?page=floorplans

smokinit
08-19-2013, 03:46 PM
Lots of info to digest lots of time to find the right one!!

Big Mike
08-19-2013, 04:58 PM
This is the one I have been using for almost a year now.
http://www.kz-rv.com/mxt/index.html

I have the MXT20 which is a 20' camper plus the bumper and tongue comes in right at 24.5'.

What do you use as a tow vehicle? I wouldn't mind having something like this but I would need to stay with something easily pulled by a F150

smokinit
08-19-2013, 05:01 PM
What do you use as a tow vehicle? I wouldn't mind having something like this but I would need to stay with something easily pulled by a F150

Shouldn't be a problem they are in the 4 to 5000lb range. My 1500 chevy with tow package does 7700 lbs

Uncle Buds BBQ
08-19-2013, 05:27 PM
What do you use as a tow vehicle? I wouldn't mind having something like this but I would need to stay with something easily pulled by a F150
I have a F250 5.4L gas engine. Pulls it just fine.

Wish I had a diesel because I'm only getting 8mpg when pulling it with a full load.

Big Mike
08-19-2013, 07:38 PM
Looking at some of these, I am surprised by the dry hitch (tongue) weight. I have a 2001 F150 with the towing package. The hitch is only rated for 600lbs but many of the smaller toy haulers exceed that before any weight is added to the trailer.

smokinit
08-19-2013, 07:41 PM
Looking at some of these, I am surprised by the dry hitch (tongue) weight. I have a 2001 F150 with the towing package. The hitch is only rated for 600lbs but many of the smaller toy haulers exceed that before any weight is added to the trailer.

That seems low what class receiver is it.

Big Mike
08-19-2013, 08:06 PM
Not sure what class it is, but, I was wrong, the sticker on the side actually says it is rated for a 5000lb trailer, 500lb tongue weight or 8700lb trailer 870lb tongue weight with weight distribution. But it also says dependent on vehicle rating.

According to the owners manual, I can pull a trailer up to 7200lbs with my GCWR being 12,500

Smoke'n Ice
08-19-2013, 08:06 PM
Have an 18 foot Forrest River Work & Play. works great and pull it with a Tundra. Plenty of room for an FEC100, FEPG500, cambro, coolers, my wife's junk, Freddy, Emma and her junk, etc. Slow down to 55 and get 10-11, go like a bat out of hell and get 6. The rest are in between. Get what is comfortable with you and your family and will fit in most of the comp sites that you cook at.

smokinit
08-19-2013, 08:10 PM
Not sure what class it is, but, I was wrong, the sticker on the side actually says it is rated for a 5000lb trailer, 500lb tongue weight or 8700lb trailer 870lb tongue weight with weight distribution. But it also says dependent on vehicle rating.

According to the owners manual, I can pull a trailer up to 7200lbs with my GCWR being 12,500

I went through that with mine also and finally called a chevy tech to get it straight.

New Pal Frank
08-20-2013, 05:50 AM
We pull a 31' Raptor toyhauler with our Dodge 1500 heavy duty.(rated 10250) Dry weight on the camper is 8700 lbs off the assy. line,
We dont get in any hurry.( interstate speed 63-65)
Can cook off the door or roll off to the ground. We cook on a Backwoods Competitor and Momma just bought a used Backwoods Chubby.
when we unload. the garage is my air conditioned prep area complet with prep table. coolers and cambro.
Momma also has her bedroom up front where she can sleep in peace on cook night. And we all know what they say about Momma being happy.
It also has a built in 4000watt generator.
I would pull this anywhere if we had a 3/4 ton wirh a diesel.

Ron_L
08-20-2013, 06:30 AM
Nice setup, Frank! Is that an 8x8 canopy on the ramp?

smokinit
08-20-2013, 06:39 AM
We pull a 31' Raptor toyhauler with our Dodge 1500 heavy duty.(rated 10250) Dry weight on the camper is 8700 lbs off the assy. line,
We dont get in any hurry.( interstate speed 63-65)
Can cook off the door or roll off to the ground. We cook on a Backwoods Competitor and Momma just bought a used Backwoods Chubby.
when we unload. the garage is my air conditioned prep area complet with prep table. coolers and cambro.
Momma also has her bedroom up front where she can sleep in peace on cook night. And we all know what they say about Momma being happy.
It also has a built in 4000KW generator.
I would pull this anywhere if we had a 3/4 ton wirh a diesel.

Nice man thanks for the pics!

CBQ
08-20-2013, 08:18 AM
Lots of toy hauler and general RV info here:

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f49/

Not a bad site, but they go a little ad crazy. Makes us appreciate Phil's understated approach more.

dhuffjr
08-20-2013, 09:40 AM
I have a Honda 3000 generator I use at comps. One thing I'll get if we ever get another toy hauler is a built in generator so I don't have to refuel it in the middle of the night/morning. When we were looking I noticed the side ramped models seemed to have less weight capacity. Be sure to keep that in mind.

New Pal Frank
08-20-2013, 09:56 AM
Nice setup, Frank! Is that an 8x8 canopy on the ramp?


Thanks.Actually the wife found a 6 1/2 X 6 1/2. Fits real nice on the door. It also came with 4 side walls.

smokinit
08-20-2013, 10:07 AM
This might be a good sticky thread for all to view going through the same process. Hint Hint Mods:becky: Going to look at a few more this weekend will take pics.

Teamfour
08-20-2013, 10:17 AM
Going to look at a few more this weekend will take pics.

There is a huge RV show in PA early in Sept. 21 acres of RVs. We will be going.

http://www.prvca.org/PRVCAHome/AmericasLargestRVShowPublicInfo/tabid/59/default.aspx

smokinit
08-20-2013, 10:18 AM
Sweeet bud thanks!!!!

Rookie'48
08-20-2013, 03:26 PM
Dammit Andy has a fifth wheel with the side ramp but I don't know what brand it is. Send him a PM, his screen name is HoDeDo.

Ron_L
08-20-2013, 03:29 PM
Thanks.Actually the wife found a 6 1/2 X 6 1/2. Fits real nice on the door. It also came with 4 side walls.

Cool... I've been using a 10x10 EZ-up brand with leg extensions, but the leg extensions are only available on the higher end models, so it is very heavy and hard to handle.

Garrett
08-20-2013, 03:48 PM
I use the same setup, but made my own cheap and not heavy leg extensions. I used 2" PVC cut 5ft long and I drilled 1/4" holes every 2" and use a 1/4" diameter bolt to stick in the pipe for the tent legs to sit on.on my easy up I had to trim the bottom of the legs to fit inside the pipe. Easy to set up, once the ramp is out, leveled and secured I put a the bolts in level the with ramp and the bottom of legs are the height as the ramp. The only thing I need to figure out now is the gap that's between the tent and the back the camper for when it rains.
http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Garrett8405/8EAC4C49-AC25-44A0-A5B7-DBC26D354504-1044-0000012775E75322_zps2e754b83.jpg

New Pal Frank
08-21-2013, 06:21 AM
I use the same setup, but made my own cheap and not heavy leg extensions. I used 2" PVC cut 5ft long and I drilled 1/4" holes every 2" and use a 1/4" diameter bolt to stick in the pipe for the tent legs to sit on.on my easy up I had to trim the bottom of the legs to fit inside the pipe. Easy to set up, once the ramp is out, leveled and secured I put a the bolts in level the with ramp and the bottom of legs are the height as the ramp. The only thing I need to figure out now is the gap that's between the tent and the back the camper for when it rains.


Most toy haulers i've seen have a rear wall that can be installed. Some come with it, others you purchas after market. Ours slides in a channel at the top of the door and velcros on the sides.Also has a rain flap that sheds the rain to the crack between the unit and the door.

smokinit
08-22-2013, 09:56 AM
How about these.
http://www.showhauler.com/#./home

BaggerBill
08-22-2013, 12:33 PM
There is a huge RV show in PA early in Sept. 21 acres of RVs. We will be going.

http://www.prvca.org/PRVCAHome/AmericasLargestRVShowPublicInfo/tabid/59/default.aspx

We bought our Toy Hauler at this same show in 2011.

smokinit
08-22-2013, 12:34 PM
Yup we are hoping to go.