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thirdeye
08-18-2013, 08:40 AM
At a recent comp a KCBS rep made a special point to bring up a new rule banning consumption of soda or coffee on the day of judging, implying that a even a cup of coffee with breakfast is now a no-no. When did this begin and how can this be enforced? Honor system?

Shortly thereafter there was a reminder to smokers to step outside if they needed a cigarette break between turn-ins. :twitch:

LMAJ
08-18-2013, 08:46 AM
I don't compete... but makes no sense to me.

Teamfour
08-18-2013, 09:04 AM
At a recent comp a KCBS rep made a special point to bring up a new rule banning consumption of soda or coffee on the day of judging, implying that a even a cup of coffee with breakfast is now a no-no. When did this begin and how can this be enforced?

Sounds like someone was on a power trip. That is one rule I will have to ignore when judging, since there is no way I'm starting the day out without my coffee and chickory.

mobow
08-18-2013, 09:53 AM
Nothing but water during judging. Drink whatever you want before judging except alcohol. I bring a soda with me and drink it up until when we take out sets before the first turn in. About 11:45. Never been told to do otherwise. Keith

loco_engr
08-18-2013, 10:25 AM
I CBJ'd at an contest on 8/03 and that was not mentioned.

The KCBS Rep.'s did mention a new rule about when
entering the contest site, go straight to the judging
area without any contact of any kind with comp teams.

Q-Dat
08-18-2013, 10:48 AM
I thought I read somewhere that coffee actually makes a good pallette cleanser.

Arlin_MacRae
08-18-2013, 12:46 PM
I've never heard of such a thing! It's not in the latest rules, DLed from their web page, and the only thing I've heard was you can't drink alcohol during judging and you're supposed to smoke outside.

Power trip indeed!

themidniteryder
08-18-2013, 01:05 PM
At our CBJ class it was stated they "prefer" you not to have any coffee or soda the morning of judging, as well as not to smoke. (nothing mentioned about smokeless tobacco though) The instructor also said they understand some people really need that morning cup to get kick-started and function. It is not a rule per se, put the preference. Once judging begins however, it is strictly water. Alcohol before or during judging might get you booted from the tent, or at least never allowed to a contest ran by that rep.

bbq.tom
08-18-2013, 04:14 PM
As of last weekend I hadn't heard anything from any REPs about this change!

ModelMaker
08-18-2013, 04:39 PM
At a recent comp a KCBS rep made a special point to bring up a new rule banning consumption of soda or coffee on the day of judging, implying that a even a cup of coffee with breakfast is now a no-no. When did this begin and how can this be enforced? Honor system?

Shortly thereafter there was a reminder to smokers to step outside if they needed a cigarette break between turn-ins. :twitch:

Name of the Rep and contest and date please.
Ed

P.m. me if you don't want to out the rep online.

sdbbq1234
08-18-2013, 04:39 PM
At a recent comp a KCBS rep made a special point to bring up a new rule banning consumption of soda or coffee on the day of judging, implying that a even a cup of coffee with breakfast is now a no-no. When did this begin and how can this be enforced? Honor system?

Shortly thereafter there was a reminder to smokers to step outside if they needed a cigarette break between turn-ins. :twitch:

Huh?

I also heard, "No left turns on the way to the event!" :wacko:

wallace

CivilWarBBQ
08-18-2013, 06:34 PM
Sounds to me like that Rep started his day with a big steaming cup of hogwash.

Bigdog
08-18-2013, 06:50 PM
Name of the Rep and contest and date please.
Ed

P.m. me if you don't want to out the rep online.

Get 'em Ed. :thumb:

This, quite frankly, is one of the most absurd things that I've ever heard.

Podge
08-18-2013, 06:56 PM
They can have soda or coffee as long as it's under 16 ounces.

Rookie'48
08-18-2013, 08:02 PM
They can have soda or coffee as long as it's under 16 ounces.***


*** New York City only :-P.

(sarcasm mod engaged)

Rookie'48
08-18-2013, 08:04 PM
At a recent comp a KCBS rep made a special point to bring up a new rule banning consumption of soda or coffee on the day of judging, implying that a even a cup of coffee with breakfast is now a no-no. When did this begin and how can this be enforced? Honor system?

Shortly thereafter there was a reminder to smokers to step outside if they needed a cigarette break between turn-ins. :twitch:

Name of the Rep and contest and date please.
Ed

P.m. me if you don't want to out the rep online.

I would be very interested in hearing more about this.

thirdeye
08-18-2013, 10:03 PM
I've never heard of such a thing! It's not in the latest rules, DLed from their web page, and the only thing I've heard was you can't drink alcohol during judging and you're supposed to smoke outside ...

I couldn't find anything in the rules either, and each year the changes are in bold to make them easier to spot.

At our CBJ class it was stated they "prefer" you not to have any coffee or soda the morning of judging, as well as not to smoke. (nothing mentioned about smokeless tobacco though) The instructor also said they understand some people really need that morning cup to get kick-started and function. It is not a rule per se, put the preference. Once judging begins however, it is strictly water. Alcohol before or during judging might get you booted from the tent, or at least never allowed to a contest ran by that rep.

Well, maybe "preferred" was the intent of the statement....


Anyways, thanks to everyone for your replies.

ModelMaker
08-19-2013, 08:40 PM
I couldn't find anything in the rules either, and each year the changes are in bold to make them easier to spot.



Well, maybe "preferred" was the intent of the statement....


Anyways, thanks to everyone for your replies.

So did this not happen as you said or are you OK with him doing it again this weekend?
If it did happen just as you said, it is wrong and should not be repeated, the Chair of the Rep Committee should be advised so he can remedy the problem.
Ed

Gadragonfly
08-19-2013, 09:17 PM
At a recent comp a KCBS rep made a special point to bring up a new rule banning consumption of soda or coffee on the day of judging, implying that a even a cup of coffee with breakfast is now a no-no. When did this begin and how can this be enforced? Honor system?



We heard this earlier this year as well. Exact same wording. I suspect from the same rep(s). We asked about this when we returned home and apparently the local reps were unaware of this "new rule". We, too, wondered how this would be enforced.

Bunny
08-19-2013, 10:35 PM
Its not a rule. It's that reps opinion only

Arlin_MacRae
08-20-2013, 09:35 AM
Its not a rule. It's that reps opinion only

So is that kind of thing enforceable?

deepsouth
08-20-2013, 09:42 AM
I thought I read somewhere that coffee actually makes a good pallette cleanser.


i know that beer judges often use coffee beans to smell between beers when judging.

Westexbbq
08-20-2013, 09:50 AM
Much ado about nothing as best I can tell. Never heard about no coffee or soda before. seems that bottled water and crackers are about the only thing available during judging. At a recent contest I judged, the reps did ask folks that had any sodas or such to please put them on the floor and save them for after judging.

Rookie'48
08-20-2013, 03:33 PM
I've always heard that you get rid of or put away anything except water while judging. The only thing KCBS has said is that you can't drink alcoholic beverages before (or during) judging, no one has ever said a word to me about coffee in the morning.

Of course, telling me not to drink coffee might not go over too well before at least my third cup :roll:.

Bunny
08-21-2013, 08:04 AM
So is that kind of thing enforceable?

Not unless it's a rule. And then, it would be kind of hard for me to go around to every judges house in the morning checking their coffee intake. :grin:

Arlin_MacRae
08-21-2013, 08:16 AM
Not unless it's a rule. And then, it would be kind of hard for me to go around to every judges house in the morning checking their coffee intake. :grin:

What, no smelling of breath or checking blood samples for elevated caffeine levels? :laugh:

Thanks, Bunny.

CBQ
08-21-2013, 08:26 AM
The French prefer sorbet as a palette cleanser. I think all judges should be served sorbet between entries. :becky:

This article (http://www.theroasterie.com/blog/coffee-nose-best-does-coffee-cleanse-our-nasal-palate/) suggests coffee is more of an aroma palette cleanser. They also suggest that for tasting coffee, the proper nasal palette cleansing is to sniff your our skin.

:brushteeth:

Trying to picture a bunch of judges sniffing their skin between entries. eww.

Arlin_MacRae
08-21-2013, 09:31 AM
The French prefer sorbet as a palette cleanser. I think all judges should be served sorbet between entries. :becky:

This article (http://www.theroasterie.com/blog/coffee-nose-best-does-coffee-cleanse-our-nasal-palate/) suggests coffee is more of an aroma palette cleanser. They also suggest that for tasting coffee, the proper nasal palette cleansing is to sniff your our skin.

:brushteeth:

Trying to picture a bunch of judges sniffing their skin between entries. eww.

:laugh:

Smoke'n Ice
08-21-2013, 04:35 PM
The French prefer sorbet as a palette cleanser. I think all judges should be served sorbet between entries. :becky:

This article (http://www.theroasterie.com/blog/coffee-nose-best-does-coffee-cleanse-our-nasal-palate/) suggests coffee is more of an aroma palette cleanser. They also suggest that for tasting coffee, the proper nasal palette cleansing is to sniff your our skin.

:brushteeth:

Trying to picture a bunch of judges sniffing their skin between entries. eww.
Well, if they stay away from the arm pit, it might be ok.

I am reminded of a sick joke about smelling your arm from the elbow to end of your finger to remind you of??

Porcine Perfection
08-21-2013, 11:18 PM
At many of the comps I judge coffee is available during check in.

swamprb
08-21-2013, 11:27 PM
was this at a Utah event?

Icekub
08-22-2013, 08:18 AM
was this at a Utah event?

:mrgreen: