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sdbbq1234
07-22-2013, 07:45 PM
Not that I ever had any mind to speak of, but all this scoring stuff got me the take a look at some scores from our comp at the Swinetastic event in Frederick, MD back on June 15, 2013. Yea, we finished DAL in chicken, I know.:oops:

Anyway, when I started added the scoring, I noticed that all the scores are based on 2012 point system, not the 2013. Is this where I have lost my mind?

2012 scoring:
Appearance = 0.5714
Taste = 2.2858
Tenderness = 1.1428

2013 scoring:
Appearance - .5600
Taste – 2.2972
Tenderness - 1.1428.

So, my scores in chicken were:
978
966
778
766
967
876

My score sheet shows:
30.2856
25.7142
29.1428
24.5714
26.8570
26.2856

If I did the math correctly, the totals were based on 2012 scoring methods. No? Please note, I understand I would have actually scored lower based on the 2013 scoring.

Am I COMPLETLY out in left field here? Or, does anyone really care? Or, is this old news and I missed that office memo?

wallace

landarc
07-22-2013, 08:03 PM
The math looks correct. Not sure there is anything truly amiss as I don't know when the standards went into place.

Ron_L
07-22-2013, 08:07 PM
The new weightings didn't take effect until a couple of weeks ago.

sdbbq1234
07-22-2013, 08:08 PM
The math looks correct. Not sure there is anything truly amiss as I don't know when the standards went into place.

That what I wondered, when did/does it go into effect?

Thanks.

wallace

jaestar
07-22-2013, 08:21 PM
Two weeks ago when they released SCORE.

sdbbq1234
07-22-2013, 08:31 PM
Sorry, I did not want to mix this topic up with the new scoring sheets.

The KCBS 2013 rules which went into effect on Jan. 1, 2013 (http://www.kcbs.us/pdf/2013_rules.pdf) are posted. The 2012 rules are here http://www.kcbs.us/pdf/2012_Rules.pdf.

Ron,
I do not understand what you are saying about the new weighting not taking effect until a few weeks ago.

wallace

Ron_L
07-22-2013, 08:57 PM
In the 2013 rules, in the section titled Judging Procedures, item 6)

The weighting factors for the point system upon
deployment of KCBScore will be: Appearance - .5600,
Taste – 2.2972, Tenderness - 1.1428.

The KCBScore program was just deployed two week ago, so the new weighting factor took effect them.

sdbbq1234
07-22-2013, 09:10 PM
In the 2013 rules, in the section titled Judging Procedures, item 6)



The KCBScore program was just deployed two week ago, so the new weighting factor took effect them.

:redface:

Thanks. Ok, so I have not lost all my marbles. As usual, I tried to put together the bicycle and THEN read the instructions.......

Thanks. And, back to your regularly scheduled channel............. :oops:

(I was trying like hell to find a way that I really didn't finish 100% last!! :rolleyes:)

wallace

DepChief22
07-22-2013, 11:12 PM
So how does it work. I am new to comps and I have been scratching my head trying to figure the scoring out. Can someone please explain it to me.

Ron_L
07-22-2013, 11:20 PM
Your food is judged by 6 judges. Each judges gives you a score between 1 and 9 in appearance, taste and tenderness. Those scores are multiplied by the weighting factors listed above to give you a score from each judge. a 999 is a score of 36.0000 after the weighting factors are applied. The lowest score out of the 6 is thrown out and the others are totaled to give you your final score for that meat. 999 from all 5 judges is a 180, which is a perfect score.

Make sense?

DepChief22
07-22-2013, 11:23 PM
Now it makes since. Thanks. I have been studying the score sheet and could not figure it out for the life of me.

ModelMaker
07-23-2013, 07:40 AM
Your food is judged by 6 judges. Each judges gives you a score between 1 and 9 in appearance, taste and tenderness. Those scores are multiplied by the weighting factors listed above to give you a score from each judge. a 999 is a score of 36.0000 after the weighting factors are applied. The lowest score out of the 6 is thrown out and the others are totaled to give you your final score for that meat. 999 from all 5 judges is a 180, which is a perfect score.

Make sense?

Nitpicking...
Scores 2 thru 9. A 1 can only be authorized by the Rep.
Ed

Ron_L
07-23-2013, 07:54 AM
Nitpicking...
Scores 2 thru 9. A 1 can only be authorized by the Rep.
Ed

But it is still a valid score that can be given by a judge :-D It just requires authorization.

Picking nits back at ya :becky:

Bentley
07-23-2013, 11:25 AM
Not quite sure what you are saying, but a Perfect 180 is just that all 6 judges giving all 9's. In your scenario, it would just be a 180...there is a difference...but as I said, not sure if that is what you were saying?

An example, in the 2011 AR dessert category, there were 12 180's, but only 2 Perfect 180's...

Your food is judged by 6 judges. Each judges gives you a score between 1 and 9 in appearance, taste and tenderness. The lowest score out of the 6 is thrown out and the others are totaled to give you your final score for that meat. 999 from all 5 judges is a 180, which is a perfect score.

Make sense?

Ron_L
07-23-2013, 11:30 AM
I didn't say anything about a perfect 180? 5 judges giving 999 is a 180. That's all I said.

kenthanson
07-23-2013, 12:38 PM
I didn't say anything about a perfect 180? 5 judges giving 999 is a 180. That's all I said.

"999 from all 5 judges is a 180, which is a perfect score."

I think the usage of perfect score after the 180 is what the confusion is about.

Fat Freddy
07-23-2013, 02:25 PM
I would LOVE to have any kind of a 180 score.

Bentley
07-23-2013, 05:56 PM
I get it now.

I didn't say anything about a perfect 180? 5 judges giving 999 is a 180. That's all I said.