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Rogue357
07-04-2013, 05:07 PM
Like everyone in here we all enjoy Bbqin some good food! You get you a point where you wanna get a bigger grill, you know expand the fun! So I desided to look for a bigger grill. Being that my buget wasn't huge I needed to find afforable grill. I searched here and I searched there. Finally I found a place Willz Grillz NC, so in good faith I call we spoke the deal was sealed and I sent the money. I paid it off in full! Feelin good I was all excited im gonna be gettin this grill tellin all my friends and was setting up to do side jobs get this baby off the ground the right way!! WELL here it is 1year and 5months later callin and textin Will Freeman of Willz Grillz no grill and no money to show for NOTHING!!!! so Im here to let people know DO NOT deal with guy!! He's a lier and a low down peace of S!! T! Still waiting for my money!

Pappy Q
07-04-2013, 07:14 PM
Like everyone in here we all enjoy Bbqin some good food! You get you a point where you wanna get a bigger grill, you know expand the fun! So I desided to look for a bigger grill. Being that my buget wasn't huge I needed to find afforable grill. I searched here and I searched there. Finally I found a place Willz Grillz NC, so in good faith I call we spoke the deal was sealed and I sent the money. I paid it off in full! Feelin good I was all excited im gonna be gettin this grill tellin all my friends and was setting up to do side jobs get this baby off the ground the right way!! WELL here it is 1year and 5months later callin and textin Will Freeman of Willz Grillz no grill and no money to show for NOTHING!!!! so Im here to let people know DO NOT deal with guy!! He's a lier and a low down peace of S!! T! Still waiting for my money!

That sucks but why in the world would you pay for it in full before picking up. Also have you filed a police report? I would think it would be felony fraud.

landarc
07-04-2013, 07:30 PM
Wow, if you do a quick search, the first few hits are from complaint sites and the BBB, in which he gets a F rating, and it states that he has a history of not being willing to resolve complaints.

Lake Dogs
07-04-2013, 07:44 PM
Makes you really appreciate the Langs, Bubba Grills, Yoders, Stumps, Backwoods, etc. etc. of the world, doesn't it?

Rogue357
07-05-2013, 08:38 AM
@Pappy yea I don't normally do buisness that way I thought he was a small private buisness tryin to build his client tel. Well that IS NOT the case! I have called the Detective from that area which he has had quite a number of pple over the years call him about WILLY FREEMAN FROM WILLZ GRILLZ BAD BUISNESS HABITS! I have spoken with the detective and be has gone over to talk to Willy Freeman and nothing has changed.

I really want to spread the word about this guy Will Freeman and his so called buisness "Willz Grillz"!

@ Landarc yea well let it be known thru out the BBQin world!

@ Lake Dogs yea really!

smokeisgood
07-05-2013, 09:06 AM
Paying 100% up front is never a good idea. Sounds to me like you are going to have to either get them to file criminal charges for theft by deception, or failing that, file a civil claim against him. Google shows multiple complaints against him. Not only that he takes the money and runs, but when you do get your grill they are inferior quality. I'd definitely sue him, and I don't think I would accept an grill from him now....

kenthanson
07-05-2013, 09:26 AM
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.bbqheaven.net#photos-tab

Here is a series of photos from a guy who actually got a willz grillz, and after he got it he still dropped 2G's into making it not a piece of SH*T

smokeisgood
07-05-2013, 09:34 AM
Nice welds....

Smokin'Butts
07-05-2013, 09:36 AM
Even his pictures on his website look like crap! Nothing I would even come close to paying that kind of money for. Sorry to hear about that though. I would be making a trip down there myself!

Bigbrett
07-05-2013, 09:40 AM
Those pics were horrible. Just built my own and I didn't think it turned out that good. But afte r seeing those pics I am a master.

Shiz-Nit
07-05-2013, 09:53 AM
I would make a trip down there with a can of this stuff!!!!!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_G-EWSfJ1PwE/TEJIvKpMYYI/AAAAAAAABfE/BtJA50umUVQ/s1600/CanofWhoopAss375.gif

Rogue357
07-05-2013, 10:53 AM
@shiz-nit yea I hear that man!

@Kenthanson aww damn that just makes me feel even worse, thanks for sharing tho!

I need a lawyer who'd be will to take this case and make Will Freeman pay back what I paid and then some plus all the lawyers cost and court fees and then some! Then the judge should ban him from doing any more buisness!

PaPaQ
07-05-2013, 11:11 AM
Is this the same guy that uses craigslist to advertise?

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/for/3865164133.html

Rogue357
07-05-2013, 11:36 AM
@PapaQ yes thats him.

Rogue357
07-05-2013, 11:39 AM
CHECK THIS OUT!!!!


http://www.bbb.org/greensboro/business-reviews/barbecuing-equipment-suppliers/bbq-heaven-custom-pig-cookers-and-smokers-in-asheboro-nc-33058683



[ur]http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/willz-grills/asheboro-north-carolina-27203/willz-grills-liar-operating-under-new-name-asheboro-north-carolina-1047722[/url]


http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.bbqheaven.net

http://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=134549790062810

Hawg Father of Seoul
07-05-2013, 12:39 PM
Is this the same guy that uses craigslist to advertise?

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/for/3865164133.html

He is using the picture where the guy spent 2k fixing that trailer. What a POS.

Rogue357
07-05-2013, 12:48 PM
Damn thats just bullitsh! This is WHY everyone in the BBQ world needs to know about this guy!

All I wanted to do was have fun doin what I like. I desided to take it up anotch and now I have $2500.00 tied up dealing with POS!

Lake Dogs
07-05-2013, 01:06 PM
Sorry. $2500 would've bought a nice Bubba Grill (which has a rich history and reputation, including a few Memphis In May winners) RF or a smaller but similarly wonderful Lang.

www.pigroast.com (http://www.pigroast.com)
www.bubbagrills.net (http://www.bubbagrills.net)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BBQ-PIT-SMOKER-competition-trailer-GRILL-no-gas-wood-charcoal-big-barrel-Grill-/160448791070?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b7e421e

smokeisgood
07-05-2013, 01:08 PM
@shiz-nit yea I hear that man!

@Kenthanson aww damn that just makes me feel even worse, thanks for sharing tho!

I need a lawyer who'd be will to take this case and make Will Freeman pay back what I paid and then some plus all the lawyers cost and court fees and then some! Then the judge should ban him from doing any more buisness!
Not sure how the laws in NC read, but it's probably small claims court and you don't need a lawyer, just a copy of the agreement and a copy of your receipt/check..

smokeisgood
07-05-2013, 01:10 PM
He is using the picture where the guy spent 2k fixing that trailer. What a POS.

You gotta admit, that's so brazenly wrong it's almost funny....you're right, what a POS....

Lake Dogs
07-05-2013, 01:13 PM
Theft by deception; if there's no chance to get the money back, me; I'd see if we cant get him arrested and convicted; $2,500 is a pretty steep felony.

Rogue357
07-05-2013, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the advise guy!

landarc
07-05-2013, 01:25 PM
It really sucks that you got ripped off, and I doubt small claims court is going to make much of a difference. He still has to be made to pay, and lots of guys just move on and change their company name (which this guy obviously has) to avoid paying.

Now, if you can press charges and get the police on your side, maybe you can sweat the money out of him.

dwfisk
07-05-2013, 02:01 PM
True enough, after getting a small claims judgement you still need to collect. In a different setting (real estate, condo issues) I got an award for my mother and was able to file a lean on the condo unit of the offending party. When they found out the could not sell or refinance with the lein pending we got the judgement plus interest. Maybe if you can proceed to get the judgement maybe you can get a lein on somethis this AH cares about?
It really sucks that you got ripped off, and I doubt small claims court is going to make much of a difference. He still has to be made to pay, and lots of guys just move on and change their company name (which this guy obviously has) to avoid paying.

Now, if you can press charges and get the police on your side, maybe you can sweat the money out of him.

caseydog
07-05-2013, 02:54 PM
If he is selling things to people in other states, wouldn't that be Interstate Commerce? He could be in trouble with the feds. It is worth some Google time and a few phone calls, if you ask me.

CD

jmoney7269
07-05-2013, 07:55 PM
Like everyone in here we all enjoy Bbqin some good food! You get you a point where you wanna get a bigger grill, you know expand the fun! So I desided to look for a bigger grill. Being that my buget wasn't huge I needed to find afforable grill. I searched here and I searched there. Finally I found a place Willz Grillz NC, so in good faith I call we spoke the deal was sealed and I sent the money. I paid it off in full! Feelin good I was all excited im gonna be gettin this grill tellin all my friends and was setting up to do side jobs get this baby off the ground the right way!! WELL here it is 1year and 5months later callin and textin Will Freeman of Willz Grillz no grill and no money to show for NOTHING!!!! so Im here to let people know DO NOT deal with guy!! He's a lier and a low down peace of S!! T! Still waiting for my money!

Small claims court, get a judgement against him and file felony theft and hope the grand jury indicts him
Makes you really appreciate the Langs, Bubba Grills, Yoders, Stumps, Backwoods, etc. etc. of the world, doesn't it?

And Pitmaker! I paid for my vault in full and they even got it done early. Never a doubt in my mind. Very pleased with their service. Some people report difficulty with communication of Pitmaker, but myself and all the people I know have not experienced that phenomenon. My next rig is gonna come from Pitmaker again!

gotribe28
07-06-2013, 05:59 PM
Hurry you only have 2 years to file suit on this.... But dude you are from Jersey, come on NC is not that far away. I would put the baseball bat in the back seat and pull a Tony Soprano on his knee caps, bet you get the grill and your money back... But I am from Cleveland maybe we just do things differently then you Jersey Boys....

Mrdeville
07-06-2013, 08:31 PM
He's a scammer! He got me for $600. He talked a good game! He has screwed people over for thousands! The pic he sent me of the cooker I ordered looked like spit! I told him that's not what I wanted so he was to make another. That too looked like spit!
Don't trust this guy! It's gonna come back and bite him in the ....

smokeisgood
07-06-2013, 09:57 PM
Small claims court, get a judgement against him and file felony theft and hope the grand jury indicts him


And Pitmaker! I paid for my vault in full and they even got it done early. Never a doubt in my mind. Very pleased with their service. Some people report difficulty with communication of Pitmaker, but myself and all the people I know have not experienced that phenomenon. My next rig is gonna come from Pitmaker again!
When I ordered my Pitmaker, they all they wanted was a $1000.00 deposit on a 3500 dollar pit. Perfectly reasonable for them to start fabrication. Paid the remainder when I picked it up. Unbelievable customer service, both during and since the sale. Can't say enough good things about them. My next purchase will definitely be a vault on a trailer, which the said they could just add my existing sniper to.....too many quality pit builders out there to deal with scum like wilz grills...

HookedOnQ
07-06-2013, 10:03 PM
I have seen his ad here on the richmond craigslist also.. What a P.O.S!!! Paying all up front or telling someone your in no hurry is a big mistake.. Luckly i have learned this from other peoples/friends mistakes. Had a friend just recently go through a situation like this with some work on a race car. Guy had the car for two years and he paid all up front for work that shoulda took 6 to 8 months max. A few calls to the guy from a lawyer friend and the work got done real quick and lucky for him was done right. Maybe that would help you if you knew a lawyer that could pull some strings for you

smokeisgood
07-06-2013, 10:45 PM
Unfortunately, from looking at the pics, this guy doesn't even know how to weld. Any pit you get out of him is going to be chit....

HookedOnQ
07-06-2013, 10:55 PM
Unfortunately, from looking at the pics, this guy doesn't even know how to weld. Any pit you get out of him is going to be chit....

I agree at this point i wouldnt even want the pit just my money back

Rogue357
07-09-2013, 02:06 PM
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/willz-grills/asheboro-north-carolina-27203/willz-grills-liar-operating-under-new-name-asheboro-north-carolina-1047722


http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.bbqheaven.net



Everyday that goes by gotribe28, everyday that goes by!

SmokerKing
07-09-2013, 02:17 PM
Sorry to hear about your situation. You know the old saying, "if it's too good to be true, it probably is".

BigBlock
03-26-2015, 07:52 AM
wish I would have seen this post b/4 I started dealing with this guy. Started in Sept 2013 and have gotten every excuse know to man. 18 months later still no pig cooker. I am filing charges. as many people this thief has ripped off can't understand why he is not in jail.hope other people see this post b/4 dealing with him

PatAttack
03-26-2015, 08:13 AM
I'm with the other guy.

Time to call Kneecap Jones on this P.O.S.!

M Team BBQ
03-26-2015, 08:30 AM
I'm with the other guy.

Time to call Kneecap Jones on this P.O.S.!

Yup, time to take justice in your own hands

pmad
03-26-2015, 08:36 AM
Yup, time to take justice in your own hands

Agreed, what's he going to do? Call the cops?
Not a chance.

pjtexas1
03-26-2015, 09:04 AM
Even though this guy continues to defraud people he will never go to jail. On the other hand if a customer were to assault him or even threaten bodily injury they would probably get arrested.:mmph:

ssv3
03-26-2015, 09:20 AM
Wow! I remember this thread. He's still ripping people off? Unbelievable. Will needz hiz grillz rearranged.

DetTigersFan
03-26-2015, 10:57 AM
Wow! I remember this thread. He's still ripping people off? Unbelievable. Will needz hiz grillz rearranged.

LOL
This guy is truly a POS... Also probably flat broke if he's scamming people like this left and right just hoping he can keep getting away with it. Probably some kinda drug addict or gambler if I had to bet money.

ajstrider
03-26-2015, 11:05 AM
I saw something like this occur in the custom 1911 gunsmithing business. The guy finally got taken to court for fraud by deception or something like that. He was only forced to repay the money he was paid for the job and plead out of jail time. So the person being frauded still would have had to pay for lawyer fees out of his own pocket.

He then simply moved to another state and opened up shop again.