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HarleyGirl14226
05-31-2013, 02:10 PM
Weve changed our recipe and process multiple times, but the judges hate it and we cant seem to get a good money muscle to put in. We thought we finally had it to the right tenderness/temp but now our problem is its too barky. So barky that our brand new Wusthof Brisket Slicer had a hard time slicing through it without destroying it.

Any suggestions on how to keep it nice and dark (for appearance) but still a soft enough bark to slice/eat?

Stoke&Smoke
05-31-2013, 02:15 PM
Maybe put in some foil at the end to soften it? But that brings up a whole 'nother issue. We're struggling with pork lately also...used to get 8's and 9's, now 7's and 8's mostly
:doh:

HarleyGirl14226
05-31-2013, 02:20 PM
Thanks... Yup - we're already wrapping at the end.

deguerre
05-31-2013, 02:25 PM
I think you'd probably do better in MIM/MBN/GBA. Personally I love a good crunchy bark. Perhaps if you start foiling around 160 with an apple juice spritz?

Cast Iron Chef
05-31-2013, 03:10 PM
Spritzing with apple juice regularly can help. Less sugar in your rub will lesson bark. I usually cook one butt for money muscle and one for pulled.

Pappy Q
05-31-2013, 03:16 PM
Thanks... Yup - we're already wrapping at the end.

Wrap/foil earlier.

MattyB
05-31-2013, 03:18 PM
Any suggestions on how to keep it nice and dark (for appearance) but still a soft enough bark to slice/eat?

nope.

HarleyGirl14226
05-31-2013, 03:21 PM
Thanks everyone... Sadly, we are already spritzing, wrapping, etc... Going to play around with the timeline this weekend and maybe start wrapping earlier. Something has to help!

nope.

Sending you love too Matt... :wink:

deguerre
05-31-2013, 03:24 PM
Thanks everyone... Sadly, we are already spritzing, wrapping, etc... Going to play around with the timeline this weekend and maybe start wrapping earlier. Something has to help!



Sending you love too Matt... :wink:

Have you tried going very simple with the rub? Just S&P, garlic and some paprika for color?

Stoke&Smoke
05-31-2013, 03:34 PM
Thinking pulling one butt for slice and keeping one in for pull/ bark may be the way to go. Might have to break down and take a comp class one o' these days

INmitch
05-31-2013, 03:40 PM
If you listen close you will here a lot of electric knives at work prior to pork turn ins. :clap: I think that may help you a bunch.

deguerre
05-31-2013, 03:41 PM
So, is yours coming out like this?

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b414/redhot696/picnic.jpg?t=1303735549

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b414/redhot696/pulled-1.jpg?t=1303735593

Because this is what I AIM for as to bark...

HarleyGirl14226
05-31-2013, 03:49 PM
So, is yours coming out like this?

Nope. Not quite as "barky" as that... It's almost a combination of bark/skin that forms on the MM. Will try going back to the electric knife this weekend as well... Had gotten away from that when we purchased good knives.

deguerre
05-31-2013, 03:52 PM
Nope. Not quite as "barky" as that... It's almost a combination of bark/skin that forms on the MM. Will try going back to the electric knife this weekend as well... Had gotten away from that when we purchased good knives.

Well, I DO live in Memphis, you understand...:becky:
I think you're right though. Save your knife for brisket!

southernstyle
05-31-2013, 04:47 PM
Turn the bark down and slice down to the bark then you cam palm the knive and push down firmly on the bark to get thru it.

ButchB
05-31-2013, 05:33 PM
Are you cooking them in your Fatboy? Just curious I have a hard time getting ANY bark in my BWS.

sdbbq1234
05-31-2013, 05:51 PM
Are you cooking them in your Fatboy? Just curious I have a hard time getting ANY bark in my BWS.

We have a FatBoy and we really don't have any problem getting bark on pork or brisket. We normally cook at about 250-270.

wallace

landarc
05-31-2013, 07:22 PM
Guerry, if she is in KCBS, she will need color, but, not a crunchy or hard bark. It works against you most of the time. One of the reasons foiling at 165F works so well in comps, and letting it run until done, is you get a dark bark that is tender.

I am in favor of two butts, one for slices, one for pulling. I think Bludawg is right, slice down toward bark or use the electric. Definitely think you want to revisit the timing, temperature and when you foil.

Muzzlebrake
05-31-2013, 10:01 PM
Create a more moist environment when wrapped. How much liquid are you adding when you wrap? I typically use almost 8 oz per.

DepChief22
05-31-2013, 10:42 PM
[QUOTE=HarleyGirl14226;2500026]Thanks everyone... Sadly, we are already spritzing, wrapping, etc... Going to play around with the timeline this weekend and maybe start wrapping earlier. Something has to help!

I wrap mine around 170 and let it go to about 190 to 200. Try using your favorite soda instead of juice.

Mustanger
06-01-2013, 01:07 AM
Guerry, if she is in KCBS, she will need color, but, not a crunchy or hard bark. It works against you most of the time. One of the reasons foiling at 165F works so well in comps, and letting it run until done, is you get a dark bark that is tender.

I am in favor of two butts, one for slices, one for pulling. I think Bludawg is right, slice down toward bark or use the electric. Definitely think you want to revisit the timing, temperature and when you foil.

From a judge's perspective, this advice is "spot on!."

Good Luck and God Speed!

Ken
The Mustanger

Parkville, MO 64152

tigercc
06-01-2013, 04:10 AM
We wrap to color. As in when it gets that mohogany look.

HarleyGirl14226
06-01-2013, 10:04 AM
Are you cooking them in your Fatboy? Just curious I have a hard time getting ANY bark in my BWS.

We aren't. We're cooking them on the Yoder.

HarleyGirl14226
06-01-2013, 10:05 AM
Create a more moist environment when wrapped. How much liquid are you adding when you wrap? I typically use almost 8 oz per.

We will def. look at that...

HarleyGirl14226
06-09-2013, 09:27 PM
Thank you all for your help, it was quite beneficial. We took our first 1st in Pork this weekend!

CBQ
06-09-2013, 09:42 PM
Thank you all for your help, it was quite beneficial. We took our first 1st in Pork this weekend!

Congrats Gail and Kevin :grin:

Muzzlebrake
06-09-2013, 09:43 PM
Congrats!
:rockon:

JimmyDAL
06-10-2013, 06:34 AM
Nice!

DepChief22
06-10-2013, 06:41 AM
Good Job. That's Cool

Lake Dogs
06-10-2013, 08:44 AM
Thank you all for your help, it was quite beneficial. We took our first 1st in Pork this weekend!

Now THAT'S A CHANGE! Way to go!

deguerre
06-10-2013, 08:53 AM
Congrats!






















I still gotta have my bark though...:becky: