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bbqbrad
05-21-2013, 11:01 AM
Be careful out there!

Northeast Ga (http://www.921wlhr.com/11-confirmed-e-coli-cases-traced-to-toccoa-restaurant/)

I like this place. It is a hole in the wall that I have liked. Scary stuff!

deguerre
05-21-2013, 11:09 AM
Bet it was a contaminant in a side dish.

Jacked UP BBQ
05-21-2013, 01:14 PM
there goes there business.

landarc
05-21-2013, 02:13 PM
That is too bad. It only takes on careless moment, not washing your hands or produce well enough and you have an issue.

toadhunter911
05-22-2013, 01:17 PM
My crew hates it when I get on them about hygiene, but this points out the reason for diligence. 80% of food borne illness comes from improper personal hygiene, and in cases of E-coli its probably even higher. Wash your hands people!!!

Two Bears
06-09-2013, 10:42 AM
my crew hates it when i get on them about hygiene, but this points out the reason for diligence. 80% of food borne illness comes from improper personal hygiene, and in cases of e-coli its probably even higher. Wash your hands people!!!


with soap !

Smokin'Butts
06-09-2013, 11:10 AM
Would also like to point out that the restaurant may have no fault at all in it if the product came to them already contaminated with e coli

xbullyx
06-16-2013, 03:26 PM
It looks like it closed down and is back open??

Corky
06-16-2013, 06:52 PM
http://rlv.zcache.com/e_coli_happens_tshirts-ra53857bcf48d463e97477304a05ed9a9_804gs_512.jpg

Just BS
06-24-2013, 09:24 AM
18 cases confirmed.... Looks like it was the ice tea. :mmph:

http://www.marlerblog.com/case-news/toccoa-bbq-shack-e-coli-outbreak-now-18/

mikeleonard81
06-25-2013, 12:16 AM
How was it the iced tea?

bizznessman
06-25-2013, 01:08 AM
You might be surprised to know how many instances of food poisoning are due to improper prep/storage of beverages.

Foodborne pathogens can survive in brewed tea, but for tea brewed at an appropriate temperature–with water hot enough to kill pathogens–the issue of safety is primarily one of storage conditions and ensuring the tea dispenser has been cleaned and disinfected before use.

Brewing iced tea at an appropriate temperature in a thoroughly cleaned urn and limiting the time held at room temperature before serving will minimize the risk of bacterial contamination.

* Iced tea should be brewed at 195 F for 3-5 minutes. * Iced tea should be stored for no longer than 8 hours.
* The tea brewer, storage dispenser, and faucet should be cleaned daily.

Cases where foodborne illness occur from beverages is almost always due to unclean/disinfected storage containers and holding the tea for long periods of time. I know of one establishment that never threw out tea at the end of the day. They just topped it off each day with new brew and I doubt that the storage container was cleaned/disinfected more than once or twice a month. I never did drink their tea. :shock:

Drink UP!!!!! :wink:

Just BS
06-25-2013, 03:22 PM
I have no doubt that improperly made/stored/served ice tea can cause foodborne to propregate and make someone sick, but ecoli? I would think that is more likely from someone not washing their hands properly. No???

bizznessman
06-25-2013, 08:51 PM
I have no doubt that improperly made/stored/served ice tea can cause foodborne to propregate and make someone sick, but ecoli? I would think that is more likely from someone not washing their hands properly. No???

The origin could well be improper hand washing but the source of transmission in this case appears to be the beverage/dispenser.

Packmanjim
06-25-2013, 09:22 PM
My dad got sick once after we played golf and he drank from a water cooler stored on the back 9. Disinfect your coolers and water jugs!

Gadragonfly
06-25-2013, 09:42 PM
Could a lemon wedge put on the rim of the glass carry e coli?

marubozo
06-25-2013, 10:59 PM
Could a lemon wedge put on the rim of the glass carry e coli?

Yes. It's not so much that the lemon itself may contain it, but that the outside of lemons may not be thoroughly cleaned, and servers almost always use their bare hands to reach into the container of lemon wedges and then puts it on your glass, again with their bare hands, which can be where the contamination really comes from.

http://voices.yahoo.com/care-little-e-coli-ice-water-with-912427.html

in New Jersey, %77 of the lemons tested in 21 local restaurants tested positve for bacteria. These lemons were contaminated with everything from E-coli to staph infection.

J&B'sBBQ
06-26-2013, 03:25 PM
My husband's family is born and raised in the Royston area and my FIL and I had a discussion about this just the other day. He knows the owners and, as someone else stated, there goes their business. They will not recover from this as there are a handful of other BBQ restaurants in the area that are just as easy to drive to. The word is that yes it came from a beverage and it is very sad for that small little town to lose a family owned business that had been around for so long. It just goes to show that you can never be too careful.

bbqbrad
06-26-2013, 05:30 PM
I Live in Royston. I was told a few weeks back that they were having a "Re-Grand Opening" and inviting media to come out. I also heard it was the cole slaw. I haven't checked in to see how they are doing...

J&B'sBBQ
06-26-2013, 08:14 PM
I Live in Royston. I was told a few weeks back that they were having a "Re-Grand Opening" and inviting media to come out. I also heard it was the cole slaw. I haven't checked in to see how they are doing...

I did hear that they were going to try, but if any of those families decide to sue them they will not be able to bear the financial weight of litigation and the business.

With having Bar-H, Zebs, Vanna (and others)...there is enough competition locally for them that they may have a very hard time picking up the pieces from this.

Just BS
06-27-2013, 09:32 PM
In my other thread I talk about having insurance. Won't that protect them?

At worst, can't they just start a new LLC and keep cooking?

I presume they had insurance, otherwise the law firms wouldn't be bothering with them....

Pigs on Fire
07-22-2013, 04:58 PM
No lemon, please.

Damn True
07-22-2013, 07:53 PM
There was a pretty substantial E. coli outbreak a few years ago due to improperly treated water being used to rinse or irrigate spinach (don't recall which) grown in the Salinas, CA area. Nasty stuff.

J&B'sBBQ
07-22-2013, 09:09 PM
In my other thread I talk about having insurance. Won't that protect them?

At worst, can't they just start a new LLC and keep cooking?

I presume they had insurance, otherwise the law firms wouldn't be bothering with them....

I guess it would depend on their liability coverage in their plan, but you would hope so.

They have re-opened and are selling again. Brad may be able to better verify this, but my understanding is that it's not in the same location and I do believe it's the next town over. His business is still not even close to what it was prior though.

Pigs on Fire
07-23-2013, 01:49 PM
These drink stations that restaurants put out so that you can serve yourself....they are huge breeding grounds for nasty bacteria.


Folks, wake up. People are nasty. Nasty as hell. I see it all the time. People leaving public restrooms without even thinking about washing their hands. Next thing you know, they are digging through the lids, straws, lemons, ketchup, mayo packets and forks/spoons/knives at the drink stations.

THAT can put a restaurant out of business? Not if the restaurant doesn't have that...



Another thing....these stupid plastic baskets with a piece of wax paper in them. Nothing but asking for trouble.

Damn True
07-23-2013, 02:17 PM
These drink stations that restaurants put out so that you can serve yourself....they are huge breeding grounds for nasty bacteria.


Folks, wake up. People are nasty. Nasty as hell. I see it all the time. People leaving public restrooms without even thinking about washing their hands. Next thing you know, they are digging through the lids, straws, lemons, ketchup, mayo packets and forks/spoons/knives at the drink stations.

THAT can put a restaurant out of business? Not if the restaurant doesn't have that...



Another thing....these stupid plastic baskets with a piece of wax paper in them. Nothing but asking for trouble.


....oh, and never eat the bar nuts. Just sayin.

petehustle
08-05-2013, 09:49 PM
I've eaten there and wrote about the BBQ shack in a review I did. The owner couldn't have been nicer and was so proud to show me his operation.
The food was some of the best BBQ and stew I've had in the North Georgia area.
I would go back in a heartbeat to eat their BBQ. I hope they survive and can move on from this unfortunate incident.

trambone
08-13-2013, 01:27 AM
If the lines from the bar aren't clean the whole soda area can grow bacteria. You also have to clean the ice machine regularly.