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Movingmd
04-16-2013, 03:28 PM
Is an uds good enough for a comp cooker? Obviously its not going to handle whole hog.

TuscaloosaQ
04-16-2013, 03:39 PM
People win on them all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

el_matt
04-16-2013, 03:43 PM
I've only been to 2 comps, but I saw plenty of them there. As far as I know, Harry Soo only cooks on WSM's, and they're not much different than an UDS (mainly just more expensive).

Matt

slammmed
04-16-2013, 03:48 PM
I've only been to 2 comps, but I saw plenty of them there. As far as I know, Harry Soo only cooks on WSM's, and they're not much different than an UDS (mainly just more expensive).

Matt

thats true but harry soo also just got a brand new big poppa UDS so we'll see if that changes!

Johnny_Crunch
04-16-2013, 04:43 PM
Yes it is.......

dawg
04-16-2013, 05:39 PM
all i use are uds at comps i do backyards and have won 3 GC,s

Ron_L
04-16-2013, 06:49 PM
I think you would get better answers if you mentioned the type of competitions :-D

For KCBS a UDS or two or three would be fine. For MIM, no way.

Butt Rubb'n BBQ
04-16-2013, 07:17 PM
It's not what you cook on. It's how good you can cook. It would be awesome for you to go out and beat the teams with the fancy cookers.

sdbbq1234
04-16-2013, 07:33 PM
One of our cookers (if we need it) this coming weekend is a UDS. We will most likely use it for our chicken as I am not 100% comfortable cooking everything on our Fat Boy yet.

wallace

Movingmd
04-16-2013, 07:46 PM
What is a mim comp?

Ron_L
04-16-2013, 07:59 PM
What is a mim comp?

Memphis in May. MBN (Memphis BBQ Network) runs comps based in the same rules in different parts of the US.

PorkDork
04-16-2013, 08:47 PM
Do you guys think you could get away with having only 2 UDS for a standard comp of Brisket, chicken, ribs and butt??

ViciousGame
04-16-2013, 08:52 PM
I don't see why UDS wouldn't be successful in comps. We use WSMs in comps, but those UDSs look pretty bad@ss. We're in the process of putting one together ourselves. We'll probably go the Big Poppa setup route...it had me at the beer bottle opener.

ViciousGame
04-16-2013, 08:53 PM
Do you guys think you could get away with having only 2 UDS for a standard comp of Brisket, chicken, ribs and butt??

Slap Yo' Daddy does all 4 meats on a single 18.5" WSM, so I think 2 UDSs would be fine if one is determined enough.

PorkDork
04-16-2013, 08:59 PM
Slap Yo' Daddy does all 4 meats on a single 18.5" WSM, so I think 2 UDSs would be fine if one is determined enough.

I thought I saw him have at least 2 or 3 on BBQ Pitmasters. I would think if you were to only have one you would at least have to have a couple racks in each UDS. I'm thinking about trying to enter into my first competition this year and I'm thinking one UDS is not going to be enough. (However I'm really working the fiance to let me buy a Backwoods Chubby!!!)

Ron_L
04-16-2013, 09:01 PM
Do you guys think you could get away with having only 2 UDS for a standard comp of Brisket, chicken, ribs and butt??

Absolutely. For example, set up them up on Friday night for butts and briskets. Depending on how much meat you cook you could do that on one UDS. Time the butts and briskets to be done by 8am on Saturday and hold them in a cooler or cambro. Then get one UDS set up for ribs and the other for chicken. Easy.

It's all about timing.

PorkDork
04-16-2013, 09:09 PM
Absolutely. For example, set up them up on Friday night for butts and briskets. Depending on how much meat you cook you could do that on one UDS. Time the butts and briskets to be done by 8am on Saturday and hold them in a cooler or cambro. Then get one UDS set up for ribs and the other for chicken. Easy.

It's all about timing.

Some good advice there! You think it would be best to keep the longer cook items (i.e. butt and brisket) in one, and the shorter, more intensive items (ribs, chicken) in a separate cooker??

ViciousGame
04-16-2013, 09:12 PM
I thought I saw him have at least 2 or 3 on BBQ Pitmasters. I would think if you were to only have one you would at least have to have a couple racks in each UDS. I'm thinking about trying to enter into my first competition this year and I'm thinking one UDS is not going to be enough. (However I'm really working the fiance to let me buy a Backwoods Chubby!!!)

Since that 1st season of BBQ Pitmasters, Harry Soo has made his setup much more efficient. I took his class last fall and spoke with him during his last contest in Wildomar, CA. He cooks 2 butts on the bottom rack and 1 brisket on the top rack. They are usually done within an hour or so of each other, so by ~7:30am when he puts on his ribs, the long haul meats are in the Cambro. He puts the chicken on ~9:30 on the bottom rack. Thats when he begins to foil his ribs. Trust me, he has this thing down.

I follow his routine, but I use 2-3 WSMs purely for the extra capacity because I cook more to allow for my 'cough' 'cough' larger margin of error 'gulp'! He tweets and FBs about his timeline all the time so I don't feel like I'm revealing a huge competitive strategy here. He told me he likes to use one WSM and 1 20lb. bag of KB because it reduces his carbon footprint and makes things go a lot smoother, ie. less equipment, supplies, etc.. I think it's because he's showing off...LOL!

Ron_L
04-16-2013, 09:34 PM
Some good advice there! You think it would be best to keep the longer cook items (i.e. butt and brisket) in one, and the shorter, more intensive items (ribs, chicken) in a separate cooker??

That all depends on how much meat you cook and the temps. If the butts and briskets cook at the same temp and will fit in one that gives you more flexibility in case you have a stubborn butt of brisket.

That way you have a free cooker for the ribs, and if you cook chicken hotter, the cook time isn't as long, so you have time for that stuck butt or brisket to finish without having to worry. The chicken can go into that cooker when the butt and briskets are done.

So to recap...

Cooker 1 - butts and briskets, then chicken
Cooker 2 - ribs

At least that's how I would do it.

PorkDork
04-16-2013, 09:35 PM
Wow! I guess a guy could do an entire competition on a single UDS! This is why I love this web site! SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE!!

So if you had to recommend the best way for us competition virgins, would you recommend a single smoker or multiple smokers? I would think multiple would give a little leeway so I wouldn't be opening/closing/opening/closing over and over and killing my temperatures.

Ron_L
04-16-2013, 09:41 PM
Wow! I guess a guy could do an entire competition on a single UDS! This is why I love this web site! SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE!!

So if you had to recommend the best way for us competition virgins, would you recommend a single smoker or multiple smokers? I would think multiple would give a little leeway so I wouldn't be opening/closing/opening/closing over and over and killing my temperatures.

Yeah, if everything goes right, you can do it on one. But if you have a stubborn butt or brisket you can have an issue.

See my recommendation above for a great way for a new team to start.

ViciousGame
04-16-2013, 10:14 PM
Yeah, if everything goes right, you can do it on one. But if you have a stubborn butt or brisket you can have an issue.

See my recommendation above for a great way for a new team to start.

Indeed. Harry Soo is the exception to the rule. I don't think I'd ever try his method of all-in-one. He's truly talented at what he does.

Ron_L
04-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Indeed. Harry Soo is the exception to the rule. I don't think I'd ever try his method of all-in-one. He's truly talented at what he does.

Yeah... It takes impeccable timing.

But, I've seen a lot of pictures online of him at comps and they show two WSMs. Does he really use just one all the time?

Movingmd
04-17-2013, 07:51 AM
Shows how new I am to te game. I thaught uds was only for back yards....

smokeisgood
04-17-2013, 08:40 AM
He told me he likes to use one WSM and 1 20lb. bag of KB because it reduces his carbon footprint and makes things go a lot smoother, ie. less equipment, supplies, etc.. I think it's because he's showing off...LOL!

Only in California would someone be worried about their carbon footprint in a BBQ competition...:crazy:

ViciousGame
04-17-2013, 03:13 PM
Yeah... It takes impeccable timing.

But, I've seen a lot of pictures online of him at comps and they show two WSMs. Does he really use just one all the time?

I know he used only one in Wildomar. He did use a mini WSM to smoke his beef ribs (extra category in Wildomar), but I saw only one regular WSM on his cook site.

ViciousGame
04-17-2013, 03:20 PM
Only in California would someone be worried about their carbon footprint in a BBQ competition...:crazy:

When he first mentioned that he used only one WSM in the class I was shocked. I asked him why and he said that it was easier to transport less equipment and fewer supplies without sacrificing any quality in his end product. The carbon footprint reason was a more of a throw away one-liner afterwards. We all got a kick out it. Maybe he was serious about that reason or not, but the fact is that he frequently uses a single WSM and a single 20lb. bag of KB (and wood chunks) to cook all four of his competition meats.