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MilitantSquatter
02-11-2006, 04:52 PM
I'd like to have some more info on what sources team's are using for their hot water at contests. In looking at old posts, I see the mention of a Coleman portable hot water heater (I think it's about $200 and runs on propane). Others mentioned bringing the pot from a turkey fryer I'm assuming to boil water in some way. Seems like this way does not allow for it to be readily available. Are there any other options that are not space intensive, relatively cheap etc ?

I know I asked about the three wash buckets a while back. I was assuming hot/warm water needed to be used at all times..but now I'm not sure. Are the teams just boiling water as needed to clean etc. ?


Any detailed info would be helpful on how your team handles their hot water needs during a contest.

LostNation
02-11-2006, 06:09 PM
I got a coleman system for Xmas and haven't used it yet. I've seen teams that use electric coffee pots (old peculators) to heat water. They seem to work well if you have power.

Kevin
02-11-2006, 06:11 PM
Rich, I've been looking at those Coleman water heaters. Aren't they supposed to have a very fast recovery time once it's hot?

drbbq
02-11-2006, 06:48 PM
The Coleman thing is On demand" so it's instant and constant. It must be a coil deal. You have toi charge it occasionally, I guess that powers the igniter and the pump, but the heat is fueled by 1 lb propane cylinders.
It works great. It's about the best thing to happen to cookoffs since the EZ Up.

Jeff Hughes
02-11-2006, 07:56 PM
I just found it at Wilderness Essentials for 159.95 plus shipping.

Looks like a great unit...

Jeff_in_KC
02-11-2006, 08:27 PM
I was thinking of purchasing one of the coleman units myself... I used the turkey fryer and boiled water in it for cleaning. Between that and starting charcoal chimneys, I went through a bunch of propane last year (probably five tanks in 3 contests). In the long run, I'm guessing even with spending money on the 1 pound propane cannisters, the Coleman water heater will be cheaper (and free up the turkey fryer for charcoal only).

Here's what I found on Bass Pro if you're interested in saving search time:

Coleman Hot Water on Demandwritten by Michael Burch (http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.CFPage?&mode=browseByAuthor&authorID=670&cmid=OLAUTHOR_ARTICLE)
The Hot Water on Demand is exactly what its namesake implies. It delivers hot water anytime, anywhere.http://media.basspro.com/images/articles/hotwater.jpg (http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=50149&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults)I know what you're thinking - we're living in the millennium; creating hot water isn't very impressive. No, it's not if you're at your home, but it's a little more impressive when you're 50 miles from the nearest paved road.

In recent years Coleman (http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.SearchResults?hvarSearchString=coleman) has held up to their "ultimate camping company" standard by innovating and creating some of the best camping products on the market. One of their newest creations is the Coleman Hot Water on Demand system. I'm sure you all have been on camping trips where the only water you have is in the nearby river, or your drinking water. It makes for cold dishwashing, cleaning, and showers.

The Hot Water on Demand is exactly what its namesake implies. It delivers hot water anytime, anywhere. The portable, self-contained unit is lightweight, durable and operates on clean-burning propane. Use it for washing, cooking, cleaning, even an outdoor shower (spray adapter sold separately). It's so simple to use - connect the water hose, turn the dial to select your water temperature, and in FIVE SECONDS you have hot water.

If you want 160-degree hot water for making cocoa, or a cup of soup or instant coffee, then you'll only need to wait another handful of seconds. That's it. Just hold the knob on the hottest setting and steaming hot water will flow from the built-in, full-size faucet. Besides being fast, it is convenient and simple - thanks to a compact, self-contained unit that weighs just 22 pounds

To operate the system, simply connect the integrated hose and pump to a 5-gallon water carrier, select the desired temperature with the control knob, and the unit dispenses hot water in a matter of seconds. The unit comes with a 5-gallon collapsible water carrier but can be hooked to a garden hose with an optional adapter. It is fueled by a standard, 16.4-ounce disposable propane cylinder, which will heat 40 gallons of water, more than enough for an average weekend family camping trip.

The water heater has three settings: Cool, which simply pumps and dispenses water without heating it; Warm, which heats water to 50 degrees Fahrenheit above the starting or ambient water temperature; and Hot, which heats water to 100 degrees above starting temperatures to a maximum of 160 degrees. It operates with an easy-to-understand single control knob, which ignites the burner automatically, turns the unit and pump on and off, and regulates the water temperature.

Integrated safety features include automatic shut-offs when water temperatures exceed 160 degrees or the unit tips over, plus a protective housing that does not get hot to the touch. Additionally, the unit requires a user to manually hold the knob to select and dispense the hottest water option so that it is not selected inadvertently.

Water flows from the kitchen-sink-style faucet, which swings into place from its storage port in the molded carry-handle, at a rate of 1 gallon per minute on the cool and warm settings. On the hot setting, flow is restricted to a quart per minute.

A 6-volt, rechargeable battery supplies power to the pump and other electrical components. The water heater can be recharged from either a vehicle's 12-volt power supply or a standard household outlet via a plug-in port located on the unit's front panel. Indicator lights on the front panel show when the battery is low, when recharging is complete and when water temperature has reached its maximum temperature. A fully charged battery has a 40-minute run time, which is equivalent to heating about 40 gallons of water, the same amount heated by one propane cylinder.

The water heater is efficient, evenly and instantly transferring heat from its powerful 30,000 Btu burner to water flowing through copper heating coils in the heat exchanger.

Kevin
02-11-2006, 08:40 PM
Jeff, here's a link to a pdf for the owner's manual for the Coleman. It actualy looks quite economical to operate, and you can always get an adapter to run off of 20# cylinders.

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/pdf/2300-700.pdf

Jeff_in_KC
02-11-2006, 08:49 PM
Thanks, Kevin. I think I'm sold already. I know last year, we got tired of waiting for water to boil on the turkey fryer.

YankeeBBQ
02-11-2006, 09:48 PM
Thanks, Kevin. I think I'm sold already. I know last year, we got tired of waiting for water to boil on the turkey fryer.

You won't regret it. The Coleman works great.

Steve

MilitantSquatter
02-12-2006, 12:06 AM
Thanks guys.... Seems like the Coleman unit is a no-brainer based on the feedback.

I looked around at pricing online at that Wilderness Essentials was pretty good even with shipping factored in.. I just placed an order with them...

drbbq
02-12-2006, 12:32 AM
One thing that bugged me about it was the fact that it comes equipped to use the 5 gallon jug they supply, or any other resevoir that you can submerge the pump in (like a garbage can) but if you want to hook it directly to a hose you have to buy an adaptor for $20. It's all still well worth the money, it just seems like that should be in the original package.

Jeff_in_KC
02-12-2006, 10:00 AM
The shower attachment might be of use too if you are at a contest that allows some extra space!

River City Smokehouse
02-12-2006, 12:48 PM
Shotgun Fred Pirkle at The BBQ Guru has a new hot water system that they are fixin to market. He sent me a few pictures of it. It is heated by charcoal. You can contact him for more info. http://www.thebbqguru.com

Sawdustguy
02-12-2006, 02:58 PM
I gotta get me one of those things too!

Bigmista
02-18-2006, 09:52 AM
For those with unlimited funds...

http://www.cookind.com/index.php

thillin
02-18-2006, 12:43 PM
For those with unlimited funds...

http://www.cookind.com/index.php

Direct to the water heater.
http://www.cookind.com/product10.php

FatDad
02-18-2006, 01:25 PM
Here is what I take to my hunting lease.
Comes in a handy case and it really works.

http://www.zodi.com/web-content/Consumer/zodihottaphpshower.html

BigBarry
02-07-2007, 05:35 PM
If you are thinking of getting the whole kit (hose adapter, carrying case, spray adapter) this place totals up less with shipping than any other place I can find:

http://www.landbigfish.com/tacklestore/showcase.cfm?PID=2348

SmokeInDaEye
02-07-2007, 05:42 PM
For those with unlimited funds...

http://www.cookind.com/index.php

Thanks, Mista. Comes next Thursday.:twisted:

Seriously, Vinny, that Coleman looks like the way to go. Another thing to go on my wish list.

scottyd
02-07-2007, 06:31 PM
I have the coleman instant heat water deal I like it. very handy I just wish I would have got one years ago. I just got mine last sept. very nice. I got mine at cabelas

MilitantSquatter
02-07-2007, 06:42 PM
Thanks, Mista. Comes next Thursday.:twisted:

Seriously, Vinny, that Coleman looks like the way to go. Another thing to go on my wish list.

Well, It's been a year and three contests later and the Coleman water heater is still in the box... I've toted it along to all of them and never got around to taking it out of the box...

Maybe this year...

SmokeInDaEye
02-08-2007, 09:25 AM
Well, It's been a year and three contests later and the Coleman water heater is still in the box... I've toted it along to all of them and never got around to taking it out of the box...

Maybe this year...

Dang these old threads! I thought this was from THIS February!

Vinny, I was trying to figure out why you were so interested in a portable hotwater heater with a new Spicewine and trailer on the way. Now how do you get running hot water in the trailer??

Guess I don't need to rush and buy one if you've never unboxed yours.

thillin
02-08-2007, 05:22 PM
Guess I don't need to rush and buy one if you've never unboxed yours.

Nope, just make him an offer.:cool:

Sawdustguy
02-08-2007, 05:41 PM
Well, It's been a year and three contests later and the Coleman water heater is still in the box... I've toted it along to all of them and never got around to taking it out of the box...

Maybe this year...

Vinny, so thats why you cooked with us at Bristol last year. You wanted to see if the Coleman Water Heater really worked.......:eek: :biggrin: :biggrin:

lunchlady
02-08-2007, 06:16 PM
I've seen teams that use electric coffee pots (old peculators) to heat water. ...

that would be us...I have a 30 cup percolator which I use for hot water and for coffee. It does take a little while - maybe 20 minutes - to heat up (the coffee takes longer though - more like 30) but it is plenty of hot water for dishes. we use three dish bins (a little smaller than restaurant size) and if I fill the perc two times, I have way more than enough water and it is hot enough to burn ya. hope this is helpful

michelle

DOH!...just saw the dates on these...sorry!

Jorge
02-08-2007, 07:12 PM
that would be us...I have a 30 cup percolator which I use for hot water and for coffee. It does take a little while - maybe 20 minutes - to heat up (the coffee takes longer though - more like 30) but it is plenty of hot water for dishes. we use three dish bins (a little smaller than restaurant size) and if I fill the perc two times, I have way more than enough water and it is hot enough to burn ya. hope this is helpful

michelle

DOH!...just saw the dates on these...sorry!

No time limit on good info, and old threads surface around here all the time!8-)

ole'e
02-09-2007, 10:05 AM
I bought one last night off of e-bay for 124.00 delivered. Most stores are wanting 160-170 for them. So no more heating water with the stove.
Eric

tony76248
03-07-2007, 02:06 PM
Last week I saw that some folks used 5 gallon Igloo coolers for hot water, the water stayed hot all weekend. I ran right out and bought one.

Bigjim4x
03-07-2007, 03:21 PM
Here is our set up. It's a tool box that we put a sink in and it hold the 4gl water heater. When there is no water hook up we use a 30 gl garbage can with a submersable pump.
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n187/bigjim4x/DSCN0316.jpg
Here is the water heater we use. It's electric and 110.
http://auction.mynex.net/images/217-157-175.jpg

tony76248
03-07-2007, 05:46 PM
I like not needing to depend on electricity. But I do have a generator....Just in case!

chad
03-07-2007, 07:37 PM
We use/used a turkey fryer and 2 gallon fish fry pot...works great...it takes minimal planning to fire it off for cleanup...three bus pans and off we go. We now use the outdoor "shower" on the travel trailer...just setup the cleaning station nearby and go...we always get water in the trailer (and I carry my own anyway)...we haven't found going through propane to be a problem...that's what we have it for!!

I have two tanks on the trailer and two others for the fryer and the gas grill at home....I also use it to fire off the Kingfisher charcoal basket...propane is just one of the costs of doing business. At $14 per 20# tank (around here) I get many uses for hot water, charcoal lighting, preheating the cooker with the torch, etc.

The Coleman is definately a cost effective way of doing business. The price for the convenience is woll worth it.