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big matt
04-11-2013, 12:16 AM
I've been throwing around making a switch from our big pig of a cooker to something smaller..I've cooked on lots of different ones but I wanted your opinions..what would you switch to if you could?

Pappy Q
04-11-2013, 04:10 AM
I wouldn't switch even if someone gave me a free smoker.

New Pal Frank
04-11-2013, 06:40 AM
If I switch,and only if I switched, (I am very happy with my Backwoods), I might consider going with Pappy Q and Indianagriller. But at this time, I have no plans on switching.
So I hope this helped you out some.:grin:

Smokin Hoggz
04-11-2013, 06:52 AM
If I were to switch from a big cooker to a smaller cooker I would switch to a Humphrey's pit (http://www.mainemachining.com/store/Default.asp) They are rock solid, well designed and all of their cookers will hold a full size pan. Give them a call they are great people, they will help you out with whatever you need!!

K-Train
04-11-2013, 06:59 AM
Backwoods

jmoney7269
04-11-2013, 07:05 AM
Pitmaker and UDS

MAP
04-11-2013, 07:10 AM
I am thinking of switching from a Lang 84 (which requires a second vheical) to 3 WSM's. The Camper I use at comps is not a toy hauler so the pits have to be farily light. I would convert the bunkroom in the back of the camper to do all the prep and boxing and I would also be able to haul the WSM's there.

Lake Dogs
04-11-2013, 08:02 AM
Depends on what sanctioning bodies you plan to compete in. I'd start there to set my expectations. I have an early model Lang 84, and it's still not enough to cook the 8 20# shoulders, 14 racks of baby backs, AND a 120# hog in at the same time. I need 2.

If I were ONLY in something like KCBS I'd probably look at 3 or 4 WSM's. Cheap, effective, and if you lose one you just go buy another'n.

Scottie
04-11-2013, 08:30 AM
I have cooked on a FE or a Geer. FE is much smaller and you can get sleep. The Geer is a lot bigger and the chicks dig it.... :-P

Fatback Joe
04-11-2013, 08:41 AM
I might switch my old Stumps for a new Stumps.

musicmanryann
04-11-2013, 08:51 AM
Jambo. If smaller, jambo. If really smaller, backwoods fatboy.:mrgreen:

CBQ
04-11-2013, 08:55 AM
We use the FEC100 and 2 Backwoods (Fat Boy / Chubby) today. We don't want to switch, but if we had to the FEC120 and the Humphrey's pit would be at the top of the list.

Rooter-Tooter BBQ
04-11-2013, 08:57 AM
Im with Pappy Q. I have a Jambo Jr, I wouldn't change for the world. Only if it were a J3 or Enclosed Model Jambo. Fun to cook on, easy on the eye, and great product comes off it.

Alexa RnQ
04-11-2013, 09:10 AM
Matt, I'll tell you honestly, I don't think we've driven the WSMs to their limit yet. We are still learning things about how to use them to get the product we want.

Now, that's not to say that if we suddenly had the option to use something else, and the means to get it to contests, that we wouldn't switch. Everyone thinks about "what-if" I had such-and-such shiny magical cooker. And we've seen more than one person buy the shiny magical cooker, whichever one it is at the time, and not do any particularly better than they were doing on the old one.

So, given that we still have transport issues, we haven't yet concretely thought about a change. Maybe next year!

Podge
04-11-2013, 09:12 AM
Ya might as well jump on the Jambo bandwagon.

fnbish
04-11-2013, 09:21 AM
I've been throwing around making a switch from our big pig of a cooker to something smaller..I've cooked on lots of different ones but I wanted your opinions..what would you switch to if you could?

I went from hauling around a large'ish gravity fed and a WSM to a backwoods party & chubby (G2s). This was primary due to changing from a utility trailer where I could load up anything on wheels into it, to now a camper that I can't really put any cooker in. The WSM would fit, but I wanted 2 new toys anyways :grin:. So I needed to get something I could put in the back of a truck (though the backwoods I have are technically skinny enough to fit in the tiny camper door).

But I guess there are a few questions to ask such as, do you want multiple smaller cookers? "Smaller" is a relative term so going from a big JOS pig cooker to say a Stumps Prince or FEC 120 would be downsizing. Do you have limitations on size of how small you want to go? Does type of fuel matter? Will they be rolled into a trailer or will they have to be lifted? Does price matter?

What works for us may not work for you without a few more details.

big matt
04-11-2013, 09:35 AM
Thanks for all of the replies guys!..I appreciate the quality feedback thank you all.

big matt
04-11-2013, 09:43 AM
I went from hauling around a large'ish gravity fed and a WSM to a backwoods party & chubby (G2s). This was primary due to changing from a utility trailer where I could load up anything on wheels into it, to now a camper that I can't really put any cooker in. The WSM would fit, but I wanted 2 new toys anyways :grin:. So I needed to get something I could put in the back of a truck (though the backwoods I have are technically skinny enough to fit in the tiny camper door).

But I guess there are a few questions to ask such as, do you want multiple smaller cookers? "Smaller" is a relative term so going from a big JOS pig cooker to say a Stumps Prince or FEC 120 would be downsizing. Do you have limitations on size of how small you want to go? Does type of fuel matter? Will they be rolled into a trailer or will they have to be lifted? Does price matter?

What works for us may not work for you without a few more details.no limitation on cost really..we will be pushing ifi to a toy hauler that's one of the reasons I'm thinking of the change..I'll still keep our MAK in the mix as well..so many options..I've cooked on most types that have been mentioned except a backwoods or Jambo..I'm really looking for something consistent temp wise and fuel efficient.

Swamp Donkeyz BBQ
04-11-2013, 09:44 AM
Pitmaker vault

Cast Iron Chef
04-11-2013, 09:49 AM
I'm hoping to go the other way. I use 2 WSM's and a small cargo trailer. I hope to get a toy hauler and move up to a backwoods or FEC. I do love my WSM's though.

fnbish
04-11-2013, 10:07 AM
no limitation on cost really..we will be pushing ifi to a toy hauler that's one of the reasons I'm thinking of the change..I'll still keep our MAK in the mix as well..so many options..I've cooked on most types that have been mentioned except a backwoods or Jambo..I'm really looking for something consistent temp wise and fuel efficient.

Gotcha. So really you could go with any suggestion that has been said. Pretty much all gravity feds run efficiently and are fuel efficient, as do FEC's, as do Backwoods, pitmakers, etc. You could probably put all the names in a hat and do a blind draw to make your choice and do well. That would be pretty fun actually :becky:. I say draw from a hat.

Shiz-Nit
04-11-2013, 10:17 AM
Jambo or R&O offset will be my next smoker.... before the year is up I will have one or the other.

But I do LOVE my Backwoods Compeditor she is a Smokin' Machine!!!!

jmoney7269
04-11-2013, 11:47 AM
I'm really looking for something consistent temp wise and fuel efficient.
I can fill my charcoal basket up on a prewarmed vault with a few wood chunks and run over 20 hrs easy. If you were using them nasty kingsfor d's you could probably get over 30 hrs filled up. This setup went 10 hrs @300 the other day. Added a chunk of wood every 2 hrs. Just cruised along. once it ran out of fuel, it was 250 4 hrs later still. That was HEB hardwood briquettes 8.4lbs
Could have easily fit 3 bags=25#
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac174/justinmargist/92B367E7-1438-4721-BB2C-1421FD874A91-249-00000018246B668B.jpg

Smitty250
04-11-2013, 11:51 AM
You know I'm loving my FEC100 buddy! I know that you know all about it but if you want a run down we can talk next weekend in Victorville.

big matt
04-11-2013, 12:56 PM
Gotcha. So really you could go with any suggestion that has been said. Pretty much all gravity feds run efficiently and are fuel efficient, as do FEC's, as do Backwoods, pitmakers, etc. You could probably put all the names in a hat and do a blind draw to make your choice and do well. That would be pretty fun actually :becky:. I say draw from a hat.

Yeah that would be fun..I've cooked on FEC,big green egg,WSM's,CTO,lots of different stick burners and offsets..I want to give a gravity feed and backwoods a try soon..then I'll have a good idea..while I'd love a Jambo even the carts are tanks and I'm trying to kinda get away from pushing around another big pit..I really like the product that pellets produce(color,bark set time)but then you have to always worry about parts and electricity..hmmm..so many options.

Big Ugly's BBQ
04-11-2013, 01:02 PM
Backwoods!!!!! Get to sleep and enjoy my fav libation............but you know that already, dont you???

Honestly, for what we do, the BW's line are great cookers. Efficient and consistent, they always produce for us. To me there are to many variables in other cookers....and that doesnt include the need for someone to constantly feed the beast wood. Jambos are awesome cookers, no doubt about that, but they dont suit our cooking style.

MAP
04-11-2013, 01:20 PM
What does an empty Backwoods competitor weigh?

JD McGee
04-11-2013, 01:26 PM
We cooked on WSM's for the last 4 years but made the switch this season to MAK's for our big meats and chicken. We will still do our ribs on the WSM (or perhaps a Backwoods Chubby in the future) until MAK comes out with that water pan mod...hint...hint Bob! Lol! We are limited to weight as well so any heavy pits are outta the picture...for now.

big matt
04-11-2013, 01:43 PM
Backwoods!!!!! Get to sleep and enjoy my fav libation............but you know that already, dont you???

Honestly, for what we do, the BW's line are great cookers. Efficient and consistent, they always produce for us. To me there are to many variables in other cookers....and that doesnt include the need for someone to constantly feed the beast wood. Jambos are awesome cookers, no doubt about that, but they dont suit our cooking style.

This speaks volumes to me Chris thank you..and I hear most people would favor a backwoods especially for ribs..and that's been our trouble meat lately..we cook kinda right in the middle(7hr cook)and cook by color and bark..I'm going to try the BW soon..maybe a gravity side by side so I could really see..plus our old girl has had a nice long run and can still put out great food but I think it screams to me sometimes..I'm tired let me stay home!..haha

Big Ugly's BBQ
04-11-2013, 01:51 PM
What does an empty Backwoods competitor weigh?

Website says, 350lbs. I think they are alittle heavier.....


Matt what I like about the BW's for ribs, is that, when Dan (or I) starts cutting the rack, we can pick any bone to use. With a WSM, or some other cookers, the end bones tend to get charred/overdone, and useless. This is hard, especially if the rack is a good one and you're trying to fill the box with that one rack.

My first BW's was a Party, and I used it with a BBQ Guru Caldera Tallboy. There were big differences between the two cookers, although both were vertical systems.

It's all about what you are trying to accomplish and the level of comfort you want in get that done. They are all good cookers........we wouldn't be talking about any of them, if they weren't............

big brother smoke
04-11-2013, 02:02 PM
Since we cook in the same zone, get a Brinkman off set, Matt :razz: :wave:

Muzzlebrake
04-11-2013, 02:11 PM
a Yoder 1320

Rub
04-11-2013, 07:46 PM
You said you like pellet cookers, definitely check out the YS 1320. Very easy, versatile, and consistent. I love mine.

jrbBBQ
04-11-2013, 08:18 PM
I just wish I had my CTO mounted on a trailer with a porch so I don't have to drag that sucker up and a ramp.

bluzieq
04-11-2013, 08:59 PM
I love my abs bar be cube, its small enough for backyard and big enough for a kcbs. but for a mbn event i sure would love the lang or a meadow creek decked out with chrome.

Timmy Mac
04-11-2013, 09:13 PM
Would switch to any cooker that would sponsor me!!!!

Meat Man
04-11-2013, 10:38 PM
We added a new cooker this year. We've been using our MAK with a 18" WSM. We looked at the Backwoods, Pitmaker Safe, and the Rebel 17. Because we intended to still use the MAK, we need a smaller footprint to fit in the back of a pickup. Tough choice since they are all great units. We chose the Rebel, and have really like it so far. Two calls at Sams last week and they both came off the Rebel, pork and brisket.

BBQ_MAFIA
04-11-2013, 10:58 PM
Wish I had my Spicewine on a trailer. I love my Lang but the Spicewine holds rock solid temps for a long time and can hold a ton of food if needed.

CivilWarBBQ
04-12-2013, 11:24 AM
Switch, no. Quite happy with my SouthernQ gravity feed. I would like to own one of their large water pan smokers one day for whole hog. Would also like to play around with an FEC, simply because a pellet grinder is the one type of smoker I've never owned.

CBQ
04-12-2013, 02:05 PM
This speaks volumes to me Chris thank you..and I hear most people would favor a backwoods especially for ribs..and that's been our trouble meat lately..we cook kinda right in the middle


We have a number of cookers, but the FEC and Chubby (for ribs) seem to be getting us the best results.

Code3BBQ
04-12-2013, 03:06 PM
We switched this year from a Lang 84 clone to a Rebel 28 Cabinet Smoker. What a world of difference it has made for us. It cooks a great product, holds the temp exceptionally well, and.... I get more sleep. :clap:. We could not be happier. It all depends on what your needs are and what you are trying to achieve. For us, we found the best solution. There are lots of recommendations and great testimonies to back all of the choices that folks are posting. Good luck and let us know what you decide. !!!

big matt
04-12-2013, 03:32 PM
We have a number of cookers, but the FEC and Chubby (for ribs) seem to be getting us the best results.

Thanks Chris..if I remember right we sat next to you and your wife in the back of the tent at Myron's back in feb 2010?..I remember your team name.

Vince RnQ
04-12-2013, 03:44 PM
Matt, you know you want to be a WSM team so just make the move and don't look back.

It would also be a lot safer for me when we're cooking next to each other!

Mexi "Q" Tioner
04-12-2013, 03:51 PM
I went from this Orion Convection Cooker that I used in my 1st comp
http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/Los_MexiQtioners/ab39c8fd.jpg (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/Los_MexiQtioners/media/ab39c8fd.jpg.html)

To 2 22.5 WSM's that I will be using in my 2nd comp next weekend
http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p516/Los_MexiQtioners/20130316_141707_zps619c6c50.jpg (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/Los_MexiQtioners/media/20130316_141707_zps619c6c50.jpg.html)

Never looking back and glad I upgraded :icon_smile_tongue:

4uweque
04-12-2013, 06:11 PM
I currently cook on a trio of UDSs, as much as I would love upgrading to an expensive fancy cooker I really don't see a need. I have so much faith in my cookers that I put my Butts and Brisket on and go to the hotel and sleep. I WANT a cool cooker but I'm afraid it would mess up my rest.

daveinwestmont
04-12-2013, 09:27 PM
If I had endless garage space and money I would buy a Jambo J3, a pellet pooper, and keep my meat monster.. For now I am very happy with the meat monster, with the guru it gives me great product, sleep and its very versatile.

TheJackal
04-13-2013, 01:13 AM
If I were to switch from a big cooker to a smaller cooker I would switch to a Humphrey's pit (http://www.mainemachining.com/store/Default.asp) They are rock solid, well designed and all of their cookers will hold a full size pan. Give them a call they are great people, they will help you out with whatever you need!!

Really nice looking pits. Two observations. The firebox looks really shallow. I know it is long, but it looks more shallow than even a standard bw party firebox. Also, It looks like the Humphreys pits are barely wide enough to fit full pans. Are you at all worried about airflow around the sides? Those shelf rails coupled with the pan width (including the lip) looks like little to no airflow.

mikeraba
04-13-2013, 06:19 AM
Jambo enclosed model. It has everything I would want in a smoker. The only problem would be loading that thing on my trailer.

Untraceable
04-13-2013, 07:17 AM
Hard to switch to just one cooker. Every cooker compromises something.

Pitmaker vault is next on my dream list

Scottie
04-13-2013, 09:10 AM
If I had endless garage space and money I would buy a Jambo J3, a pellet pooper, and keep my meat monster.. For now I am very happy with the meat monster, with the guru it gives me great product, sleep and its very versatile.



Sounds like you are describing my garage!!!!

RangerJ
04-13-2013, 10:55 AM
Very happy with my Baby J, wish at the time I had the money or the patience to get the J3, so if I was changing I'd move up to a bigger Geer pit.

All that being said, after again cooking with Jeff of KC Can Crew, I'm still not convinced that my two UDS's are not the best cookers for the money. And I really did not want to part with my Backwoods Party, great for ribs and chicken.

Bentley
04-13-2013, 01:29 PM
I wouldn't switch even if someone gave me a free smoker.


Feel the same...

daveinwestmont
04-13-2013, 01:39 PM
Sounds like you are describing my garage!!!!

Just without the chicken coop!!!!:-P

Kit R
04-14-2013, 04:18 AM
Matt, I'll tell you honestly, I don't think we've driven the WSMs to their limit yet. We are still learning things about how to use them to get the product we want.

Now, that's not to say that if we suddenly had the option to use something else, and the means to get it to contests, that we wouldn't switch. Everyone thinks about "what-if" I had such-and-such shiny magical cooker. And we've seen more than one person buy the shiny magical cooker, whichever one it is at the time, and not do any particularly better than they were doing on the old one.

So, given that we still have transport issues, we haven't yet concretely thought about a change. Maybe next year!

In the category of "if it ain't broke" I've been cooking on my 18" and 22" WSMs out on the patio in the offseason. We were all WSM the first two seasons and switched to BWS last year, primarily to minimize the impact of rain, wind etc. on cooker performance w/o having to resort to plywood shields, insulation, and other such stuff. But when the weather is good, as it has been at home the past month, those WSMs put out some pretty spectacular product. I'm thinking about putting the 18" in the truck and bringing it along. Maybe I'll use it, maybe not. But it is calling my name.

MattG
04-14-2013, 11:31 AM
I love my Stumps Stretch. For my next smoker I will either get a another Stumps smoker the "Stumpster" or a Backwoods Chubby G2 or Party G2 because of the small foot print.

theBBQspecialist
04-14-2013, 02:56 PM
Really nice looking pits. Two observations. The firebox looks really shallow. I know it is long, but it looks more shallow than even a standard bw party firebox. Also, It looks like the Humphreys pits are barely wide enough to fit full pans. Are you at all worried about airflow around the sides? Those shelf rails coupled with the pan width (including the lip) looks like little to no airflow.

Great Question. Humphrey's put much thought into the cooking chamber dimensions. The spacing between the rails maximizes the cooking space to be able to use three pans and still have plenty of room for air flow. Please take a look at the drawing below showing to scale full size aluminum pans in relation to the cooking chamber. Also note, two half size foil pans will also fit on one rack and are much shorter than a full size pan. So if you did have concern, you could opt to go that route as well.
The spacing between the rails can also be used to hold the rack and still have the option of pulling the rack just about all the way out and stay within the rails. This gives you loads of configurations for rack locations.

http://www.mainemachining.com/fpdb/images/AIR_FLOW.jpg

Red Valley BBQ
04-14-2013, 03:07 PM
Backwoods Extended Party

ibrisky
04-15-2013, 10:25 AM
Baby J :wink:
J3
Stumps Monster
.....in that order :cool:

Candy Sue
04-15-2013, 01:06 PM
I have cooked on a FE or a Geer. FE is much smaller and you can get sleep. The Geer is a lot bigger and the chicks dig it.... :-P

Just to be clear -- your Jambo isn't old enough to be called a Geer! <mine is!>

Scottie
04-15-2013, 01:33 PM
Just to be clear -- your Jambo isn't old enough to be called a Geer! <mine is!>


It was used...

Andrews
04-15-2013, 01:55 PM
Matt, let me know if you want to try out my smaller Stump's 223CM, it's a smaller version of my Classic but will cook comp meats well and give you an idea of how gravity smokers work.

Capt ron
04-15-2013, 02:10 PM
I would trade my Tucker for another Tucker.... :clap:

www.tuckercooker.com/