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Q-Dat
03-03-2013, 09:49 AM
Ok I hope this doesn't hurt anyone's feelings, but I recently bought my first bottle of Head Country. Well I tried it out of the bottle and was not impressed. It tastes like ketchup with some Worcestershire and Liquid Smoke. However, to be fair, I reserved judgment until after I had tried it on meat which I did yesterday. I tried it on ribs, pork, and brisket. I honestly cannot say I liked it on any of them.

This leads me to believe that people that do well with it are most likely mixing it with other things. Now I am very aware that it isn't my taste buds that I need to worry about, but does anyone use this stuff straight up and win?

Theresa B
03-03-2013, 10:17 AM
I like to mix it in one of 2 ways....1/2 regular & 1/2 hot. Or regular w/ honey... my rubs come through and the sauce compliments the overall flavor.

boogiesnap
03-03-2013, 10:19 AM
straight? i don't think so. add some BH and honey and you have a BBQ flavor profile*gulp*that doesn't offend anyone.

BTW, not impressed much either. i prolly prefer KC masterpiece or bullseye, honestly, for that type of sauce.

with that said, i used it on ribs mixed and got a ribbon. 10th out of 40 or so.

Q-Dat
03-03-2013, 10:46 AM
Ok so it sounds like its the sauce to use when you really don't feel like you even need any, but the judges expect it.

scm1226
03-03-2013, 11:07 AM
Tasted like bulls eye to me.

powerpig
03-03-2013, 03:49 PM
Recently tried it myself. I'll stick to the mighty powerpig sauce. :tongue:

The_Kapn
03-03-2013, 03:56 PM
To me, HC is like Blues Hog, Cattlemans, Stubbs, JD, and many others.
It is a consistent base for tweaking as desired.
There is the skill of the PitMaster that takes it where he/she wants it.
Nothing wrong with that.

TIM

motoeric
03-03-2013, 04:36 PM
I like Head Country. A lot. I add a bit of this and a bit of that and it acts as an excellent base for whatever direction I want the final sauce headed in.

Eric

Lake Dogs
03-03-2013, 04:46 PM
LOVE it, in brunswick stew. That's it for me. Personally, and I've said it MANY times here, why would you put a sauce on your BBQ that has smoke flavorings in it? Seriously. Doesn't it say something (and not good mind you) about the smoke on your BBQ when you need to help it out with smoke in a sauce? I personally found that they (sauces with smoke flavorings) HURT my BBQ, so I dont use them on it.

Going back, I'm curious, where did you read about competitors (other than beginners) using and succeeding with Head Country?

Q-Dat
03-03-2013, 06:05 PM
Going back, I'm curious, where did you read about competitors (other than beginners) using and succeeding with Head Country?


Not sure. I guess its just one of those names that I hear often around competitors. I figured there had to be a reason.

Rich Parker
03-03-2013, 06:28 PM
One of our best sellers! Somebody came in and bought every bottle we had this morning. They must really like it.

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TheJackal
03-03-2013, 06:39 PM
Galaxy is the same thing. First thing you get is the liquid smoke flavor. Not a fan of either.

boogiesnap
03-03-2013, 06:42 PM
LOVE it, in brunswick stew. That's it for me. Personally, and I've said it MANY times here, why would you put a sauce on your BBQ that has smoke flavorings in it? Seriously. Doesn't it say something (and not good mind you) about the smoke on your BBQ when you need to help it out with smoke in a sauce? I personally found that they (sauces with smoke flavorings) HURT my BBQ, so I dont use them on it.

Going back, I'm curious, where did you read about competitors (other than beginners) using and succeeding with Head Country?

i know for a fact it is used by one of the top teams in all of BBQ.

Theresa B
03-03-2013, 07:54 PM
+1 for Boogiesnap...

boogiesnap
03-03-2013, 08:32 PM
i also have it on good authority that "it rules". :icon_smile_tongue::becky:

Q Moon
03-03-2013, 08:41 PM
HC and BH together goes great on burnt ends IMO.


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Smokin' Deal
03-03-2013, 08:41 PM
i also have it on good authority that "it rules". :icon_smile_tongue::becky:
Just had some light night and I gotta tell you...it was GOOD! It was a mix of regular and hot..may have even had some honey added.

kwas68
03-03-2013, 08:52 PM
QDat, I got the same impression and have a bottle in shipment right now. I wish you would have posted this 3 days ago!:doh:

boogiesnap
03-03-2013, 08:56 PM
QDat, I got the same impression and have a bottle in shipment right now. I wish you would have posted this 3 days ago!:doh:

that makes no sense.

Hawg Father of Seoul
03-03-2013, 08:58 PM
Bet he had a comp this week end. DAL remorse????

boogiesnap
03-03-2013, 09:06 PM
that would make sense. :wink:

but it wasn't the head country.

kwas68
03-03-2013, 09:06 PM
It makes sense - just not the way you're reading it.:wink:

I got the same impression that it was popular and did well in competitions. So I was curious and ordered some.

If I had read these reviews beforehand, I probably wouldn't have ordered it.

ZILLA
03-03-2013, 09:07 PM
I find that it's a great canvas to paint on.

jmoney7269
03-03-2013, 09:08 PM
Quit messing with store bought sauces and make your own. I have tried every sauce you can imagine and the only bottled sauces I like are plowboys 180 or Meier Texas wild pecan. You want a good base to start with? Here ya go, this is mine.
2 cups Heinz ketchup
1 cup Bragg raw unfiltered ACV
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/4 cup grandmas or brer rabbit molases
1/4 cup orange clover honey
1 tbs worchester
1 tbs of finely hopped chipotle chiles in adobo
10x better as a base than any store bough crap. It's got pop, zing, sweet, savory, a little spice and takes well to any specialty spice you wanna add from cardamom to all spice or even tamarinds and mace like blues hog has.

ZILLA
03-03-2013, 09:29 PM
Why go through the trouble when I can buy a good base sauce for less than $3.00?

JD McGee
03-03-2013, 09:44 PM
Head Country is used by many top Pitmasters...it's just like any other flavor profile ingredient that is not shared publicly...:cool:

Q-Dat
03-03-2013, 10:24 PM
Quit messing with store bought sauces and make your own.

I almost never use store bought sauce(or rubs for that matter) for my personal use. I have constructed more sauces of my own than I can even begin to remember. There is NO commercial sauce that can compare to my own when its MY tastebuds doing the judging because I have tailored it that way.

All that being said I fully believe that the day will come that I will stop using store bought sauce and rubs for competitions as well. However since its not MY tastebuds that I am aiming to please, I will continue to research the popular competition flavors until I have learned enough to make my own competition sauce and tweak it as needed on an as needed basis.

BBQchef33
03-03-2013, 10:33 PM
Straight up, no.. IMO, it cant stand on its own. Too common.

its an ingredient, or base in some of my sauces. some sauces start with kethup, some start with a ketchup like substance... like head country.. bulls eye.. KCM, etc...

JS-TX
03-03-2013, 11:03 PM
I would like it better if it didn't have so much liquid smoke in it, however I find after it's been in the pit a little while the liquid smoke taste isn't that noticeable. I agree with the others though, it's a decent sauce to tinker with.

frognot
03-03-2013, 11:36 PM
Me, i'm a fan of mixing Blues Hog Original & BH TN Red together. Now, that's a mighty tasty sauce.

However, i'm just a backyard BBQer who has no idea what competition judges might like (and my dumb arse didn't realize that i was posting in the competion section until after i hit enter).

Please feel free to ignore this post (or if a mod, feel free to delete).

i feel for all y'all trying to guess what the current batch of judges is gonna like or dislike.

QTEX
03-04-2013, 08:59 PM
I too dont get what all the fuss on that sauce is? So many other better ones on the shelf imo, at least in Texas. I keep at least 20+ varieties at all times and try every new one out all the time, toss some and give some away as presents, lol. Tend to blend mix n match to the event but dont stray too much from what has consistently won me money. Still love to blend tweak and taste ;)

Q-Dat
03-05-2013, 05:53 PM
Ok just bought a bottle of the hot version and tasted it. Much much better sauce! The same basic flavor just amped up. Still not something I would use for myself but I can definitely see how others would like it.

Lake Dogs
03-05-2013, 06:00 PM
It's an *ok* sauce, and I do really like it on hotdogs and in brunswick stew. FYI: I really was asking a question earlier. Going back and re-reading it, it could easily have been read as me being a jack-wagon. I certainly didn't mean it that way. I just dont recall tasting it coming across a table at any competition in the last few years. I think I would've recognized it. However, it might've been an ingredient in some...

Q-Dat
03-05-2013, 06:49 PM
It's an *ok* sauce, and I do really like it on hotdogs and in brunswick stew. FYI: I really was asking a question earlier. Going back and re-reading it, it could easily have been read as me being a jack-wagon.

Well I can't speak for the rest of the crowdn but I peesonally don't think you're a Jackwagon! :D

As far as the sauce I agree its just ok. I am starting to think that it may be THE sauce to put on Q that doesn't really need any, but its unofficially required.

boogiesnap
03-05-2013, 07:58 PM
It's an *ok* sauce, and I do really like it on hotdogs and in brunswick stew. FYI: I really was asking a question earlier. Going back and re-reading it, it could easily have been read as me being a jack-wagon. I certainly didn't mean it that way. I just dont recall tasting it coming across a table at any competition in the last few years. I think I would've recognized it. However, it might've been an ingredient in some...

"i just don't recall tasting it"...pretty unoffensive it must be then, yes?

i think you hit the nail on the head about this sauce in competition.

zoogme
03-06-2013, 03:45 AM
Fact: HC is the largest purchaser of what ingredient?

Answer: Horseradish

Best way to describe HC is Shrimp Cocktail Sauce w/ Natural Smoke Flavoring.

We use it as a "base" then you add others to it (plug) Sweet Beaver BBQ Sauce for example ;)

Hope that helps you.

Carl

Podge
03-06-2013, 09:41 AM
It amazes me how much emphasis is put on sauce. If you cannot win using plain ol’ Head Country, then something else is off.

Fat Woody
03-06-2013, 11:40 AM
When I joined this forum in 2009, seems like HC was mentioned frequently as a "go-to" sauce for competition cooks; some were blending, many didn't say how they used it. Subsequently, BH took over the spotlight and a few blended them together. I kinda liked "HeadgeHog" as a base to mess with, but don't use it currently for comps. Maybe it's time to revisit this...

Lake Dogs
03-06-2013, 11:50 AM
If you cannot win using plain olí Head Country, then something else is off.

Podge, I'm not certain I understand this, or perhaps I do and I'm just plain perplexed...

Last time we did a sauce tasting party one of the 16 base sauces that we tried our BBQ with was Head Country. One of the 12 people at our party bet that it would win. As it ends up, none of the 16 won, and as best I recall, Head County was in the category of "tastes like **** on the BBQ because the smoke flavorings conflict with the hickory on the Q, and to some degree conflicts with rub and injection used." It was down in our bottom 10.

We couldn't win on any given day using H.C. with perfect tenderness and perfect presentation, because it conflicted so badly... We USE other sauces that compliment our meat and doesn't conflict.

5am
03-06-2013, 11:53 AM
I brought a bottle of Head Country over to a super bowl party. Everyone LOVED it. Not sure why...but they did. As mentioned already it doesn't really offend anyone, which is probably why a competitor would use it.

Podge
03-06-2013, 12:58 PM
The reason I say this is because it is just a simple, basic, traditional type BBQ sauce in my opinion. I’ve done well with this sauce, unaltered.

MattCom
03-06-2013, 01:11 PM
This sums it up well:
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb301/Matto22/stopliking_zpsada45ade.jpg

JS-TX
03-06-2013, 03:01 PM
It seems opinions are all over the place with HC. IMO, I believe Joe Q Public likes this sauce whether it's straight up or tweaked. It's a type of sauce one would expect to get from a typical BBQ joint. On the other hand a more "refined" BBQ palate (like many who are serious BBQ comp cooks) don't care for the liquid smoke/ketchup style taste and want a little more from their sauce.

Podge
03-06-2013, 03:05 PM
I guess I’m not a serious BBQ competitor because my palette is not refined.

Q-Dat
03-06-2013, 03:46 PM
This sums it up well:
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb301/Matto22/stopliking_zpsada45ade.jpg


I'm a little confused. Is that what you think my motivation is for starting this thread?

Pappy Q
03-06-2013, 03:58 PM
I guess Iím not a serious BBQ competitor because my palette is not refined.

Yeah and you can't cook mutton worth a **** either

Scottie
03-06-2013, 04:09 PM
I guess Iím not a serious BBQ competitor because my palette is not refined.



Yeah, your taste buds are wacked. What have you done recently? Oh and winning doesn't count...




:razz::-P

Alexa RnQ
03-06-2013, 04:11 PM
On the other hand a more "refined" BBQ palate (like many who are serious BBQ comp cooks) don't care for the liquid smoke/ketchup style taste and want a little more from their sauce.
My palate must be exquisitely refined, because I absolutely do not share the Head Country love. If you gave me some damned fine BBQ with Head Country on it, I would not eat it.

MattCom
03-06-2013, 04:40 PM
I'm a little confused. Is that what you think my motivation is for starting this thread?
No. I wasn't referring to anyone in particular. It's a comment on the tone of this thread.

BABYGOTBUTT
03-06-2013, 05:21 PM
i know for a fact it is used by one of the top teams in all of BBQ.


Easy now.....loose lips sink ships

Q-Dat
03-06-2013, 05:41 PM
No. I wasn't referring to anyone in particular. It's a comment on the tone of this thread.

Understood, and thats cool. I know that its a different strokes for different folks game. I blame my overexposed south Louisiana taste buds for my inability to appreciate a sauce like HC original.

Podge
03-06-2013, 06:39 PM
Understood, and thats cool. I know that its a different strokes for different folks game. I blame my overexposed south Louisiana taste buds for my inability to appreciate a sauce like HC original.

No, some might say you have a refined palate, and a serious BBQ competitor!:razz:

Q-Dat
03-06-2013, 06:47 PM
No, some might say you have a refined palate, and a serious BBQ competitor!:razz:

Haha I wish I could afford to be a serious competitor more than a few times per year! :what::D

boogiesnap
03-06-2013, 07:22 PM
Understood, and thats cool. I know that its a different strokes for different folks game. I blame my overexposed south Louisiana taste buds for my inability to appreciate a sauce like HC original.

you might have struck a chord there regarding competition and your flavor profile*gulp*.

something to think about anyway...

Shiz-Nit
03-06-2013, 08:11 PM
you might have struck a chord there regarding competition and your flavor profile*gulp*.

something to think about anyway...

I agree with you on your commit here.

Jorge
03-06-2013, 08:16 PM
I guess Iím not a serious BBQ competitor because my palette is not refined.

Well you have been known to associate with a certain City Boy.....that should tell me something...but I just get confused sorting that one out.....

Shiz-Nit
03-06-2013, 08:16 PM
I guess Iím not a serious BBQ competitor because my palette is not refined.

Must be all that Dayum Mutton... Hee Hee!

Just jokin with you Bro...

boogiesnap
03-12-2013, 09:09 PM
i guess it had been a while since i used KC materpeice.

i need to retract my previous sentiments. while somewhat similar with the liquid smoke flavor, head country, is FAR superior to kc masterpeice.

Podge
03-13-2013, 01:51 PM
i guess it had been a while since i used KC materpeice.

i need to retract my previous sentiments. while somewhat similar with the liquid smoke flavor, head country, is FAR superior to kc masterpeice.

I've put it head-to-head with typical store bought BBQ sauce and you're right. But when you taste it straight from the bottle, it just tastes like normal KC or something. But what do I know, I'm not a serious competitor with a refined palette. :redface:

indianagriller
03-14-2013, 06:54 AM
Im glad no one likes this sauce, leaves more for me i guess... its kinda like franks red hot... I put that $*&# on everything...:loco: