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eap0510
02-05-2013, 11:55 AM
Does anyone know were I can find a tutorial on how to put together a pork box?
More specifically I am looking for a tutorial that shows me where to get all the different parts that need to go into a box. For example where do I find what they call "tubes" and "chunks". Is there a specific location that most people like to take their chunks from?

I have read the article on Pickled Pig which has some great information on the process but not much on how to put together the box. http://http://www.thepickledpig.com/forums/bbq-contests/1252-award-winning-competition-pork.html

Now if someone has a video that explains this that would be great but some simple advise would be much appreciated as well.

Thanks,
-Eric

Full Draw BBQ
02-05-2013, 12:07 PM
The pork box is the box with the most options, and you'll get a lot of different opinions on what works. I did a Google search for "kcbs pork turn in boxes" and looked at images. There I found several dozen examples, and narrowed down my strategy from that. GOod luck!

DawgPhan
02-05-2013, 01:16 PM
what you need to do is cook several pork butts..

put on your cotton gloves with latex over them and then slowly take apart the pork butt muscle be muscle. Once you do that just a couple of times you are going to know right where all the best pieces are. you can feel the difference between the different muscles and you can basically just separate along the fat lines.

This has to be done while hot though.

eap0510
02-05-2013, 02:03 PM
what you need to do is cook several pork butts..

put on your cotton gloves with latex over them and then slowly take apart the pork butt muscle be muscle. Once you do that just a couple of times you are going to know right where all the best pieces are. you can feel the difference between the different muscles and you can basically just separate along the fat lines.

This has to be done while hot though.


I have been trying just that but I am doing something wrong for I am unable to get the correct pieces.

What I would like to find is a tutorial of exactly what you mentioned. Someone needs to make a video of how to locate the different muscles within the meat.

-Eric

Pigs on Fire
02-05-2013, 02:29 PM
The tube muscles are on the bottom...it's what the fat cap covers. There are 4 decent size muscles. One is the largest at about 3/4" diameter and a couple at about 1/2" diameter.

If you are doing what DawgPhan suggests, you need to keep doing it. And pay attention. You will soon learn how the butt is made up of the different muscles and how they run.

No two are alike...because you are getting two different pigs' shoulders in a twin pack. But they are all similar.

If you are having trouble separating the muscles, you aren't cooking it long enough.

boogiesnap
02-05-2013, 03:51 PM
I have been trying just that but I am doing something wrong for I am unable to get the correct pieces.

What I would like to find is a tutorial of exactly what you mentioned. Someone needs to make a video of how to locate the different muscles within the meat.

-Eric

cook it longer. each muscle should tear away whole at your fingertips. squeeze each to gauge tenderness.

Q-Dat
02-05-2013, 09:27 PM
Deciding what should go in the box can be tricky. I'm gonna just simplify things and start turning in only Money Muscle. I can't do any worse than I have been.

Bigmista
02-06-2013, 01:54 AM
Whatever you do, don't do this:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_p1VjWUS4xKQ/TY9XuojsDAI/AAAAAAAAFKA/cFVRL5VVpyo/DSC03102.JPG

ModelMaker
02-06-2013, 07:09 AM
Neil, what the hell is that? Your junior high science project?
Nice example of a 5 box....
Ed

Pigs on Fire
02-06-2013, 08:31 AM
That's a decent start at a salad

Garth57
02-06-2013, 08:36 AM
[QUOTE=Bigmista;2356596]Whatever you do, don't do this:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_p1VjWUS4xKQ/TY9XuojsDAI/AAAAAAAAFKA/cFVRL5VVpyo/DSC03102.JPG

That your Pork Salad you brag about?

BKBBQ
02-06-2013, 08:44 AM
Www.bbqsuperstars.com look for bkbbq or lang bbq smokers.darryl has taped alot of my boxes and others also. He taped our whole cook at the triple crown.

fnbish
02-06-2013, 09:06 AM
Does anyone know were I can find a tutorial on how to put together a pork box?
More specifically I am looking for a tutorial that shows me where to get all the different parts that need to go into a box. For example where do I find what they call "tubes" and "chunks". Is there a specific location that most people like to take their chunks from?

I have read the article on Pickled Pig which has some great information on the process but not much on how to put together the box. http://http://www.thepickledpig.com/forums/bbq-contests/1252-award-winning-competition-pork.html

Now if someone has a video that explains this that would be great but some simple advise would be much appreciated as well.

Thanks,
-Eric

Check out this thread. I did a search on youtube and found some decent video's that I posted in there for the OP. Not all 100% what you are looking for, but decent enough. To find 100% of what you are looking for normally costs $$ as rarely do people just give it away and there are a few teams with online classes.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152248

mobow
02-06-2013, 11:10 AM
Take your meat from around the bone and the money muscle end. Leave the middle alone. keith

J-Rod
02-06-2013, 03:46 PM
[QUOTE=Bigmista;2356596]Whatever you do, don't do this:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_p1VjWUS4xKQ/TY9XuojsDAI/AAAAAAAAFKA/cFVRL5VVpyo/DSC03102.JPG

That your Pork Salad you brag about?

My Lady just said "from a distance that looks like a dirty diaper!"

hogzillas
02-06-2013, 03:58 PM
That'd probably score about as well as a dirty diaper would

You might also check bbqcritic.com for some ideas on boxes. Youtube should have several vids & I think Killer Hogs has a whole series on their website How to BBQ right on competition meats

eap0510
02-06-2013, 08:01 PM
That'd probably score about as well as a dirty diaper would

You might also check bbqcritic.com for some ideas on boxes. Youtube should have several vids & I think Killer Hogs has a whole series on their website How to BBQ right on competition meats


It is funny that you should post about Killer Hogs for I just found a link to that site helping me identify the different parts of a butt.

Here is the link to the site that I am referencing. He gives a great shot of what the tubes look like and where they are located within the butt.

http://http://howtobbqright.com/blog/?p=763

Thank you everyone for all of your input and also with providing me with a picture of what not to turn in. I have been a judge now for 3 years so I have a good idea on what to turn in. I just need to learn where to locate the different muscles and how to extract them.

-Eric

Mad About Que
02-06-2013, 10:33 PM
Eric.. look at a raw butt.. just behind the money muscle is an opening, those are the tubes. now cook that butt. cut off the money muscle. Pull the tubes, you'll get 4 large stands. the other part most folks use comes off the top of the muscle that connects to the blade bone itself. some folks call that the crown. between those areas and a few (3-4) butts you'll have plenty. then just play with what looks good.


I have been trying just that but I am doing something wrong for I am unable to get the correct pieces.

What I would like to find is a tutorial of exactly what you mentioned. Someone needs to make a video of how to locate the different muscles within the meat.

-Eric

Bigmista
02-07-2013, 12:22 AM
That pic is one of the ones I got when I searched for KCBS Pork Turn In Boxes

ModelMaker
02-07-2013, 07:23 AM
That pic is one of the ones I got when I searched for KCBS Pork Turn In Boxes

Ya, I knew all along that couldn't be one of your boxes.....
Ed

Corky
02-07-2013, 09:30 AM
[QUOTE=Bigmista;2356596]Whatever you do, don't do this:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_p1VjWUS4xKQ/TY9XuojsDAI/AAAAAAAAFKA/cFVRL5VVpyo/DSC03102.JPG

That your Pork Salad you brag about?


Tostada fail?

Balls Casten
02-07-2013, 10:59 AM
Sections of a Pork Butt - Money Muscles & Tubes Pork Shoulder - HowToBBQRight.com - YouTube

You can watch all the videos you want but as said above you need to get your hands in there and seperate the muscles apart to learn them.
This will help tremendiously when pulling pork for catering as well.