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Slamdunkpro
01-21-2013, 11:00 AM
What'd everyone think?

Overall I thought it was a better experience than the last one I attended. (Philadelphia)

A few random thoughts:



The plated dinner was a huge improvement
If you're going to have a vendor show / area at least put a sign out.
I would suggest having the rules meeting in a more private area

carlyle
01-21-2013, 11:47 AM
I thought the banquet meal was the best I have received. Lots of good food. My steak was done the way I like and was tender enough to cut with a butter knife.

And a plated meal is sure the way to go. Everybody got fed in a timely way.Repeat that: everyone got fed. And doing that efficiently is very difficult to do for this large a group.

Kudos to KCBS and the hotel for the banquet meal.

The sessions I attended were all good. Got good ideas from all of them. Would have been nicer if there was more separation between meeting area and vendor area. Just had to concentrate more to filter out the extra noise. But really liked having vendors there. No vendors in San Diego and that was a disappointment .

Rules meeting is going to be a boisterous tussle no matter where it is held. Just wish that there were more members there to participate. Thought the Dave did a great job running it though.

What I liked best was the organizers roundtable and marketing bootcamp. Thanks Jeff for doing a great job there.

Most of all it was a great time to reconnect with old friends and make new ones.

I have been to Philly, San Diego, and a couple in KC. None of them were bad. All were worth the time, effort , and expense in going to them. Looking forward to Nashville.

Slamdunkpro
01-21-2013, 12:00 PM
Would have been nicer if there was more separation between meeting area and vendor area. Just had to concentrate more to filter out the extra noise. But really liked having vendors there. No vendors in San Diego and that was a disappointment .

Rules meeting is going to be a boisterous tussle no matter where it is held. Just wish that there were more members there to participate. Thought the Dave did a great job running it though.

Sorry we didn't have a chance to chat (or maybe we did).

I thought the vendors got a little bit of the short end. There was no signage pointing out the vendors, and no one from KCBS even came over and said "hi". The vendors I hung out with had never been to one of these events and had no clue as to what was going on. A number of members were very helpful in making them feel welcome but if KCBS wants to continue to encourage new vendors they might want to consider having someone act as a vendor "host" for the new vendors to help them understand who and what we are.

Candy Sue
01-21-2013, 01:00 PM
Sorry we didn't have a chance to chat (or maybe we did).

I thought the vendors got a little bit of the short end. There was no signage pointing out the vendors, and no one from KCBS even came over and said "hi". The vendors I hung out with had never been to one of these events and had no clue as to what was going on. A number of members were very helpful in making them feel welcome but if KCBS wants to continue to encourage new vendors they might want to consider having someone act as a vendor "host" for the new vendors to help them understand who and what we are.

I can see it from both sides. Personally, I bought knives from both vendors, books, a t-shirt and visited with every booth on the vendor side. I did not buy many contest raffle tickets! May not count as just strictly KCBS "host" since I did sorta have a table though I only spent Saturday afternoon there. I was disappointed that the turnout (vendor and public) was not what it was in 2011. Sign of the times, I'm afraid.

Banquet attendance in San Diego was about 280 last year and only 323 in Kansas City. Voter participation was up a bit this year -- 17% last year 18% this year. Both banquet participation and vote percentage show a "core" KCBS member base of about 20% of total numbers.

Slamdunkpro
01-21-2013, 01:05 PM
I can see it from both sides. Personally, I bought knives from both vendors, books, a t-shirt and visited with every booth on the vendor side. I did not buy many contest raffle tickets! May not count as just strictly KCBS "host" since I did sorta have a table though I only spent Saturday afternoon there. I was disappointed that the turnout (vendor and public) was not what it was in 2011. Sign of the times, I'm afraid.

Banquet attendance in San Diego was about 280 last year and only 323 in Kansas City. Voter participation was up a bit this year -- 17% last year 18% this year. Both banquet participation and vote percentage show a "core" KCBS member base of about 20% of total numbers.
Yes you did and you were very warm and welcoming. It was nice having a neighbor on Saturday!

carlyle
01-21-2013, 03:06 PM
Slam Dunk- we may have talked. Don't know. We all need a Brethren pin so we know
who each other are when we have not met face to face yet. Were you over by Candy Sue's booth?

Candy Sue - was great to talk with you - as always.
It is good to continue to think of ways to make things better. The last banquet in KC was an anniversary for KCBS and got a lot of build up. Besides sign of the times, that could be why attendance was down a bit in KC this time. Did not see a lot of pre banquet hoopla.

Diva
01-21-2013, 04:36 PM
Our table has had a history of not receiving food at the banquet, this year, it left a LOT to be desired, but, we received it. The exhibitor area....sparse, especially compared to 2011's showing. It makes me wonder if the price of poker went up. The Rules Meeting would probably have more participants if it didn't start in the middle of the day. Being the BBQ Capitol of the World, you'd think there'd be a planned bbq crawl, beer crawl, foodie fete or something to entertain folks.

Scottie
01-21-2013, 09:29 PM
Just some observations from the weekend . If you didn't know there was an exhibitor space, you would have never found it. As Steph stated, more options for planned events. Seemed like the only things that were pushed had to do with MMA and what they were selling. Wondering why it wasn't supported more by the local cooks? The meal... Everyone got a plate. Whether or not you would eat it might be an issue. Not sure about other tables, but you couldn't even eat the chicken.

Slamdunkpro
01-21-2013, 11:19 PM
but you couldn't even eat the chicken.
It was chicken?????:shocked:

Slamdunkpro
01-21-2013, 11:53 PM
Our table has had a history of not receiving food at the banquet, this year, it left a LOT to be desired, but, we received it. The exhibitor area....sparse, especially compared to 2011's showing. It makes me wonder if the price of poker went up. The Rules Meeting would probably have more participants if it didn't start in the middle of the day. Being the BBQ Capitol of the World, you'd think there'd be a planned bbq crawl, beer crawl, foodie fete or something to entertain folks.
When we were sitting in the exhibit hall Friday afternoon wondering where everyone was I checked registration and was told that less than 60 of the expected 400 had shown up. On Saturday morning it looked to be about 100 so I suspect that there were no activities for Friday night since no one was coming in until Saturday afternoon.

Honestly I'm not sure I'd go to another one. The pork rule meeting was the same thing I heard in Philly; I don't really care what MMA has planned since it never seems to filter down to the membership; the Great American BBQ tour doesn't impact me in the least; I'm not an organizer looking to buy MMA services so the only reason to go is the raffle and the ToY awards.

When we had the BBQ expo on the east coast we had a number of break out sessions and mini classes on a variety of subjects during the day for people as well as couple of Friday evening activities such as group dinner reservations, show/activity tickets, a bar crawl, that kind of thing. If KCBS reached out to the membership I suspect that things like this could be made to happen at the next meeting. If not then it might as well be a one day event.

Diva
01-23-2013, 07:42 AM
Just some observations from the weekend . If you didn't know there was an exhibitor space, you would have never found it. As Steph stated, more options for planned events. Seemed like the only things that were pushed had to do with MMA and what they were selling. Wondering why it wasn't supported more by the local cooks? The meal... Everyone got a plate. Whether or not you would eat it might be an issue. Not sure about other tables, but you couldn't even eat the chicken.


In what fashion? I believe, the exhibitor space was all MMA, in that they handled that portion of the program.

I took that gloppy stuff off the top of the beef, it didn't help. I didn't eat the chicken because someone at the table had taken a bite and warned us. The salad dressing was SALTY, and I like salt. We asked if it was possible to get a different dressing and were told no. The potatoes would have been better if they had been hot. The high point of dinner were the rolls.

Food and drink specials in the bar would be nice, it would have kept a LOT of revenue at the hotel, but, there weren't any. There was really no other place to congregate.

Scottie
01-23-2013, 02:28 PM
Sorry, not the exhibit area, but the banquet. Seemed like a bunch of locals werent there?

I think you might be missing something that was outstanding at the meal, Steph... the butter was top notch! :-P

For $60, you would expect a little better. I am thinking family style with pasta, beef, fried chicken, mashed potatoes and veggies would be an upgrade.

I agree about a 'meeting place'. The banquet ended and that was it. It seemed rushed so the room would be empty by 10:30. Give the cooks a little credit for their awards. For some that may only be their time getting a top 25 ToY award.

And for those that say why dont you do it? I have sent Carolyn an email volunteering to have the banquet in Chicago. 2 world class airports, plenty of hotels, transportation, awesome good and restaurants.

4 smokin butts
01-23-2013, 03:03 PM
I can see it from both sides. Personally, I bought knives from both vendors, books, a t-shirt and visited with every booth on the vendor side. I did not buy many contest raffle tickets! May not count as just strictly KCBS "host" since I did sorta have a table though I only spent Saturday afternoon there. I was disappointed that the turnout (vendor and public) was not what it was in 2011. Sign of the times, I'm afraid.

Banquet attendance in San Diego was about 280 last year and only 323 in Kansas City. Voter participation was up a bit this year -- 17% last year 18% this year. Both banquet participation and vote percentage show a "core" KCBS member base of about 20% of total numbers.
would like to know if public was informed at all? was this advertised at all too try to get public to come to trade show? no goodie bags this year !!no general raffle this year for fun stuff. we got in later on friday,did any one do the scav.hunt ?glad we brought our own drinks!!

jbrink01
01-23-2013, 03:23 PM
I've planned trade show hopsitality as part of my job and have been to hundreds of banquets like this one. For my part:

- Activities were non-existent. Do something fun and get people involved.
- For $60, buy me a couple beers with dinner.
- Put a welcome bag together with a few "goodies".
- Rent the room for the WHOLE night and get a DJ or band after the awards.

These are the people that MAKE KCBS possible, make us feel like you want us there and want us to have fun.

Diva
01-23-2013, 10:14 PM
3 couples did the scavenger hunt.

QN
01-24-2013, 07:21 AM
I've planned trade show hopsitality as part of my job and have been to hundreds of banquets like this one. For my part:

- Activities were non-existent. Do something fun and get people involved.
- For $60, buy me a couple beers with dinner.
- Put a welcome bag together with a few "goodies".
- Rent the room for the WHOLE night and get a DJ or band after the awards.

These are the people that MAKE KCBS possible, make us feel like you want us there and want us to have fun.

They tried having a band. Music was so loud pretty much everyone left. Folks don't care about music at somthing like this. They want to be able to carry on a conversation and visit with friends and congratulate winners and trade contest entries they may have won in the raffle.

4 smokin butts
01-24-2013, 09:00 AM
:loco:

carlyle
01-24-2013, 09:53 AM
Talked with someone at KCBS about goody bags. Was told that people were having difficulty getting them on planes for taking them home.

So they stopped, and no one seemed to miss them.
If it is a goody bag you want - make some noise with KCBS.

Scottie - congrats for offering Chicago . Yeah, I'd go there.

As for a place to get together - it was mentioned in a thread here before the event. Did not generate much interest then. Easier to criticize afterward than it is to plan and work before???

carlyle
01-24-2013, 09:54 AM
Oh, love the idea of a raffle of fun stuff for the rest of us who are not doing the contest entry raffle.

drbbq
01-24-2013, 10:10 AM
They tried having a band. Music was so loud pretty much everyone left. Folks don't care about music at somthing like this. They want to be able to carry on a conversation and visit with friends and congratulate winners and trade contest entries they may have won in the raffle.

Lol I remember that. The band started and the place cleared out like there was a fire!

Diva
01-24-2013, 10:13 AM
They used to have a raffle of donated items: gift baskets, gift cards, etc. It's become pretty streamlined.

As far as a place to get together....I made plans and got together with a lot of people. I was talking about while at the hotel, somewhere to hang out, meet new people...other than the lobby. The bar would be a good place, except it was a bit pricey to hang out for too long.

Diva
01-24-2013, 10:20 AM
would like to know if public was informed at all? was this advertised at all too try to get public to come to trade show? no goodie bags this year !!no general raffle this year for fun stuff. we got in later on friday,did any one do the scav.hunt ?glad we brought our own drinks!!

Why would they inform the public of 8 exhibitors? Part of them weren't manned.

I recall going to Philly and they didn't have any exhibitors, that I'm aware of.

I had a good time. Enjoyed seeing folks in a casual atmosphere.

Eggspert
01-24-2013, 10:23 AM
Lol I remember that. The band started and the place cleared out like there was a fire!

I honestly can't picture a bunch of big BBQ guys out on the dance floor getting their groove on. Wow, just trying to picture this has me a little traumatized for the day.

Eggspert BBQ

Eggspert
01-24-2013, 10:29 AM
Why don't they forget all the goodie bags and "fun" activities and just get better food and free beer. I think most would be a whole lot happier. We all know when it comes to food it is very hard to please most of us, come on we are on the professional bbq circuit! Large groups are difficult to feed. Maybe just forget the food and do drinks and appetizers!
Eggspert BBQ

Smoke'n Ice
01-25-2013, 05:05 PM
Free beer would raise a bunch of flags with the lawyers, both KCBS and the event location. It just won't happen because of liability.

Apps and a cash bar while the awards, raffles, etc. is more doable. It would be better food and easier to manage. Plated, rubber chicken dinners are, at best, last resort.

I have been involved with planning conventions and dinners as both a payer (corporate) and a provider and there is absolutly no way to satisfy anyone with a plated dinner or a buffet dinner if the number is above 100. Some one should consult with one of the TOY guys, he has experience that could/should have been tapped.

jbrink01
01-25-2013, 05:12 PM
I suppose it's kinda like a big version of a contest. Birds of a feather flock together.

dmprantz
01-25-2013, 05:15 PM
Free beer would raise a bunch of flags with the lawyers, both KCBS and the event location. It just won't happen because of liability.

I don't know why the event location would have any issues. Hotels have open bars for events all the time, like for weddings. Bartenders always have the right to say no. I'm not saying it will happen, but don't blame the hotels. They'd love to sell open bar service, because it's not cheap.

dmp

CivilWarBBQ
01-27-2013, 01:39 PM
Banquet attendance in San Diego was about 280 last year and only 323 in Kansas City. Voter participation was up a bit this year -- 17% last year 18% this year. Both banquet participation and vote percentage show a "core" KCBS member base of about 20% of total numbers.

You know how to bring banquet attendance up Candy - bring it back down to Dixie in 2014!

If the all the license plates I see on I-75 South are any indication, folks from the snow belt would rather head to Orlando than Kansas City in January.

bbqnjm
01-28-2013, 04:14 PM
I've been to 3 - Philly, San Diego & this yr's KCBS. This yr's dinner set up was definitely better with the plated entree but would have been better to ask if you wanted chicken or steak - though I'm not sure many ate the chicken. We had to ask for coffee. Was told at the previous meeting that they couldn't get vendor areas due to being remote but KC always had a good show- not! felt bad for the few vendors that were there-not sure why it's another opportunity to showcase BBQ & KCBS to the public. Would like to see the board meeting be more of an Annual meeting- instead of a rush through of the normal accepting the submitted reports monthly. Membership, Rep & CBJ's report do give some of a summary - but it would be nice to see formal year end committee reports - and copies of the report/agenda available. Last year's hotel provided opportunities to get together with the breakfast & evening buffet. Something to keep in mind when selecting next year's hotel or setting up a hospitality area. This hotel was definitely more pricey for food/liquor than San Diego & Philly. If people aren't coming in until Friday night- hold meetings then - could have multiple meetings at the same time on Saturday- more breakout sessions. Definitely agree with setting up a bbq or foodie crawl. Looking forward to Nashville.

Slamdunkpro
01-29-2013, 09:32 AM
felt bad for the few vendors that were there-not sure why it's another opportunity to showcase BBQ & KCBS to the public. .
I asked Mike McCloud about this. It wasn't advertized to the public.

Spydermike72
02-13-2013, 02:08 PM
And for those that say why dont you do it? I have sent Carolyn an email volunteering to have the banquet in Chicago. 2 world class airports, plenty of hotels, transportation, awesome good and restaurants.

Perfect location!!! I would definitely attend if it were in Chicago, I may go to Nashville next year...