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cmohr74
01-04-2013, 11:38 AM
Last year I was going through deciding on a smoker to purchase. There is so many things to consider when making such a large purchase. Me being the great sleeper I am, I woke up and couldn't sleep so I got bored. I decided to add more options to the list that I created last year. These were a few of the questions I continued to ask myself when deciding to make this large purchase
How many contests will I really be competing and at what level?
How will I transport this cooker?
How much do I want to tend to the fire?...aka sleep time
How much smoke flavor do I want?
How much will I REALLY cook quantity wise? (Too little/Too Big)
What temperature range do I want to cook with overall? (versatility)
What spacing do I want between my racks? Brisket/Ribs/Birds/Pork
What is my cost per square inch of cooking surface?
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I know there are many other cookers out there trailer wise, but with all the options available, it was hard to break them down for the list (Jambos, Trailer Yoders...etc). I also could not find all the information for all cookers out there. I'm no expert on BBQ or equipment, but I do like helping other BBQ Brethren out when I can. Hopefully my boredom helps someone.

Meat Man
01-05-2013, 07:54 AM
That was a lot of work to put that together. I've been looking at a gravity fed smoker, nice to have a comparison list right there. Thanks.

cmohr74
01-05-2013, 08:33 AM
Well I appreciate it Meat Man. It's a tool that helped me so I figured why not share it to help someone else make a decision. I am re-attaching the pdf so it's not so small; I didn't realize it came through that size. Good luck in your research for a new gravity feed.

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MattG
01-05-2013, 08:59 AM
What a wonderful break down. :eusa_clap I agree with Meat Man, that's a lot of work to this together. That's close to the same questions I asked myself before I purchased my Stumps Stretch. Thanks for sharing.

WineMaster
01-05-2013, 09:00 AM
Wow You killed it. Should be a usefull tool for anyone that has a new cooker in thier future. Great job!

bbq.tom
01-05-2013, 10:09 AM
I went with the Lang 36" Hybrid (with a 30" charcoal grill on the front end) and it is great for home use; HOWEVER, it is a wee bit small for competition - kinda need their 48". Best value for the $$ in my opinion.

GREAT comparison chart!

JD McGee
01-05-2013, 10:46 AM
Very cool! :cool: The one thing that jumped out at me was the cost and weight of the WSM's as compared to all the other smokers...lightweight, portable, affordable, and produce killer bbq...talk about the most bang for your buck! :becky:

LTG
01-05-2013, 04:11 PM
Thanks for posting that.

tnjimbob
01-05-2013, 06:03 PM
Thanks Dan for posting this. It will come in handy when our team decides to upgrade in the near future.

Very cool! :cool: The one thing that jumped out at me was the cost and weight of the WSM's as compared to all the other smokers...lightweight, portable, affordable, and produce killer bbq...talk about the most bang for your buck! :becky:

Well said, JD! For those of us on an extremely tight competition budget, the WSM is one of the best ways to go.

Squeeze
01-05-2013, 06:52 PM
Nice Job!

cmohr74
01-05-2013, 07:45 PM
I'm glad this could help out a few people. Like I said, there are many more companies out there and I apologize if I missed them. Please let me know if you want me to add any.

NRA4Life
01-06-2013, 07:37 AM
That's a great list Dan. One thing you might add to the list is: What type of smoker can I cook on and consistently produce my highest quality BBQ.

drbbq
01-06-2013, 08:02 AM
Last year I was going through deciding on a smoker to purchase. There is so many things to consider when making such a large purchase. Me being the great sleeper I am, I woke up and couldn't sleep so I got bored. I decided to add more options to the list that I created last year. These were a few of the questions I continued to ask myself when deciding to make this large purchase
How many contests will I really be competing and at what level?
How will I transport this cooker?
How much do I want to tend to the fire?...aka sleep time
How much smoke flavor do I want?
How much will I REALLY cook quantity wise? (Too little/Too Big)
What temperature range do I want to cook with overall? (versatility)
What spacing do I want between my racks? Brisket/Ribs/Birds/Pork
What is my cost per square inch of cooking surface?
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I know there are many other cookers out there trailer wise, but with all the options available, it was hard to break them down for the list (Jambos, Trailer Yoders...etc). I also could not find all the information for all cookers out there. I'm no expert on BBQ or equipment, but I do like helping other BBQ Brethren out when I can. Hopefully my boredom helps someone.

Thanks for putting that together. What did you end up buying after all of that?

Cloudsmoker
01-06-2013, 08:14 AM
Very nice job. I can see why you never made it back to sleep with a project like that.
Thanks for sharing.

Ron_L
01-06-2013, 09:01 AM
That's a great list Dan. One thing you might add to the list is: What type of smoker can I cook on and consistently produce my highest quality BBQ.

Figure that one out, Kevin, and you'll be a rich man :-D

cmohr74
01-06-2013, 09:20 AM
I wound up purchasing a Backwoods extended party from distributor, bought a Backwoods party off the Brethren for dirt cheap gutted it and rehabbed it, and scored a wicked awesome deal on a Memphis advantage. All that from a UDS to start. I wouldn't change my decision if I had to do it again

agilbert
01-06-2013, 11:22 AM
If you don't mind, can I ask you why you went with the Backwoods over a gravity feed (i.e.- Stumps, rebel, DW, Superior, Etc.). I have a Backwoods Chubby but am thinking about switching over to a gravity feed. Awesome job on your list by the way, very helpful.

pizzakngjr
01-06-2013, 04:06 PM
Great job Dan! I have been looking for a smoker and with all the options and sizes it's really hard bouncing back and forth between websites. This puts it all in one convenient location!

cmohr74
01-06-2013, 05:37 PM
If you don't mind, can I ask you why you went with the Backwoods over a gravity feed (i.e.- Stumps, rebel, DW, Superior, Etc.). I have a Backwoods Chubby but am thinking about switching over to a gravity feed. Awesome job on your list by the way, very helpful.

For me personally, it was weight. I have played with a Backwoods and it produces food exactly how I want. I use one to compete with two of my meats at one temp, my regular party if for another meat, and my Memphis is for another. I don't have a trailer and I am solo. I can easily move them in and out of my van for transport. I modified both the charcoal baskets on my parties and with a guru, I am getting 9-10 hour burns. This was why I perosnally chose the Backwoods.

agilbert
01-06-2013, 05:59 PM
I can definitely see where you're coming from. The Backwoods are pretty easy to manuever and load.

Thanks.

NS Mike D
01-06-2013, 09:12 PM
Very cool! :cool: The one thing that jumped out at me was the cost and weight of the WSM's as compared to all the other smokers...lightweight, portable, affordable, and produce killer bbq...talk about the most bang for your buck! :becky:


for $1600 you can dedicate a smoker for each meat and still fit them in a small trailer and yet weigh a fraction of one the others.

I still wonder how Harry Soo can do it with two. I'm on my third with a kettle.

WineMaster
01-07-2013, 10:03 AM
WSM's are the Jambos of that price point. However in MN when it blows outside they suck.

cmohr74
01-08-2013, 01:00 PM
Kind of one of the reasons I went with a Backwoods. They don't call this the Windy City for nothing. My UDS's are still great cookers, just not as friendly during those colder months. Personal preference on what you enjoy cooking on and are consistent with is what matters.

Big Poppa
01-08-2013, 07:07 PM
harry does most cooks on one 18" now third in king of the smoker with one wsm

CBQ
01-08-2013, 09:52 PM
If you don't mind, can I ask you why you went with the Backwoods over a gravity feed (i.e.- Stumps, rebel, DW, Superior, Etc.). I have a Backwoods Chubby but am thinking about switching over to a gravity feed. Awesome job on your list by the way, very helpful.

The Chubby has a tiny firebox that needs refueling more that it's larger siblings. We have a Chubby and a Fat Boy, and we get longer burns from the Fat Boy. (maybe 75 to 100% longer) The Chubby is insulated and uses fuel effectively - there just isn't much of it in there to start with.

If the cooker lets you can sleep through the night without tending the fire (which a bigger Backwoods will), you aren't pining away for a gravity feed.

agilbert
01-15-2013, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the reply CBQ. I've actually decided to move on up to the new G2 Party model so hopefully i'll be able to get those 8-10 hour burn times. With the chubby, I was getting about 4.5 - 5 hours or so which makes sense as i could really only get about five maybe six pounds of lump in the basket and a few wood chunks.

cmohr74
01-17-2013, 06:30 AM
I just got in input from another manufacturer who like to have their information on this comparison list. This is exactly what I was hoping for...smaller manufacturers that many out there don't exist to come forward so new buyers know all there options when purchasing a new smoker. Brethren 'Zig' manufacturers quite in interesting concept smoker that I thought never existed. Thank you for bringing you design to the table Brian.

"Check out this. This is my own design that I use it in competition that it works great so I thought I'd market it. Its not for everyone but it does what its designed to do. Two controlable temps in one cooker." (Zig)

www.zigscookers.com (http://www.zigscookers.com)

Here is the updated comparison list with Zig's smoker and the New Backwoods G2's

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Untraceable
01-17-2013, 06:42 AM
some of the backwoods specs are not correct on there.

regular chubby price was wrong
gator is 3" between the 5 racks

good list though

cmohr74
01-17-2013, 07:07 AM
Thank you for informing me about the Gator specs, I will fix that. I also adjusted the pricing I found on the Backwoods Smokers to be incorrect.

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Also, here is a photo of the cooker Zig has available on his website.

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Spydermike72
01-17-2013, 01:01 PM
I just want to thank Dan for the work on his list and for purchasing his Backwoods Extended Party from me :eusa_clap

cmohr74
01-17-2013, 01:26 PM
Thanks Mike. And that extended party has been great to me, I'm glad I got to purchase it from such a great guy.

jrbBBQ
01-17-2013, 03:50 PM
Did you think about adding the Ole Hickory CTO, I have one and love it. I know a few other people that use them in comps as well.

hogzillas
01-17-2013, 04:09 PM
Some smokers you might want to add would be the Stump's offsets/backyarders & Guru Onyx. The Stumps 2x3 offset might be close to a Lang 36/48 & their backyarders would be also & in the same $$$ range. the Onyx might be in the same class as BWS Chubby/Party. Nice list though & I'm in the same boat now as to what I might be getting this year so to have info in one place is helpful.

Friscoag
01-18-2013, 10:54 AM
I'm looking to get a mid-size gravity fed. Any consensus on which one is best?

Any used ones for sale out there?

cmohr74
01-19-2013, 09:36 AM
I appreciate the suggestions. I just added the Ole Hickory CTO and Ultra Que but I am waiting on pricing. I also included the Onyx Oven. I did not include the Stumps offsets because there was not much information on them. If I hear about them, I will add that in here.

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