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woodpelletsmoker
11-09-2012, 08:05 PM
#1.Add a middle section to upgrade the Kettle to smokey mountain, diameter 22.5", height 8", price US$60, free SAL mail.
#2.grill diameter 22.5", price US$30,free SAL
#3. 3 skewers Rotisserie with 12 VDC motor, AC/DC adapter, US$80, free sail mail.

ALL ARE MADE FROM STAINLESS STEEL!

Package #1, middle section+ grill US$80
Package #2, middle section + Rotisserie US$120
Package #3, middle section +grill+ Rotisserie US$140

I do not have a Weber kettle in China.
Anyone can post sizes of Weber Kettle here, I will offer a FREE wireless thermometer, or a 2 OZ SS brine injector.

I need advise or collect feedback on this new project.
You can book your order by post here, and you will get discount of $10.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 03:17 AM
This is a Rotisserie on Weber I find from eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Weber-2290-22-1-2-Inch-Charcoal-Kettle-Rotisserie-with-Electric-Motor-/290788269724?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b454de9c

But my Rotisserie will be 3 skewers to hold meat more secure.
and I make the Rotisserie and Middle section from stainless steel

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 03:30 AM
http://allchinas.com/spit/roaster8eBayA.jpg
This is my 3 skewers Rotisserie http://allchinas.com/spit/roaster8eBayA.jpg

Toronto
11-10-2012, 04:29 PM
Do you have any pictures of this middle section?

Id be interested in one if I had a chance to see it but will probably wait until spring time if I was going to buy it.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 07:15 PM
Do you have any pictures of this middle section?

Id be interested in one if I had a chance to see it but will probably wait until spring time if I was going to buy it.
I am planning to do this new project.
But I would like to hear from you guys first.
Is there a market for it.
Do you need the Rotisserie only
or Rotisserie plus middle section
Do you need 110V motor
or 12 VDC motor plus AC/DC adapter

Toronto
11-10-2012, 07:28 PM
Personally I am in the market for something like:

Cajun Bandit
http://i50.tinypic.com/1zfk3f4.png

or

Smoke EZ
http://i45.tinypic.com/16k5ndl.jpg


Im not interested in a rotisserie but I can only speak for myself.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 08:18 PM
Thanks. Can you give me SIZEs which I can make a clone too

Toronto
11-10-2012, 08:29 PM
Thanks. Can you give me SIZEs which I can make a clone too

Those two are different units so they have different sizing and work slightly differently. I dont own either of them so I couldnt give you sizes for them. I also think this is the wrong way to approach it, you should look to see what is good out there and look to improve on it.

If I gave you sizing and my preferences could you make one for me based on my measurements? I like both of those products and would like to combine some things.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 09:26 PM
Those two are different units so they have different sizing and work slightly differently. I dont own either of them so I couldnt give you sizes for them. I also think this is the wrong way to approach it, you should look to see what is good out there and look to improve on it.

If I gave you sizing and my preferences could you make one for me based on my measurements? I like both of those products and would like to combine some things.

I will not simply clone.
Without upgrade I would like to give up.
If you can help to develop a model, it will be yours.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 09:28 PM
For example I dislike the fire pot or fire grate in Weber. The way it burns simply wastes some of your effective grill area

Toronto
11-10-2012, 09:35 PM
I will not simply clone.
Without upgrade I would like to give up.
If you can help to develop a model, it will be yours.

Give me about a week to research this a bit more and ill have some rough blueprints for you as well as my thoughts on it.

For example I dislike the fire pot or fire grate in Weber. The way it burns simply wastes some of your effective grill area

How would you improve on the design? Im not sure I understand what you mean it waste effective grilling area.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 09:42 PM
Give me about a week to research this a bit more and ill have some rough blueprints for you as well as my thoughts on it.



How would you improve on the design? Im not sure I understand what you mean it waste effective grilling area.

But read posts here, you place coal on one side, you can not place meat direct above coal, and you waste that area

Toronto
11-10-2012, 09:48 PM
But read posts here, you place coal on one side, you can not place meat direct above coal, and you waste that area

I understand what you mean now. You are right, in that sense it is an inefficient smoker.

Most people smoke on the Weber kettle as a secondary use, mainly people buy them to grill on. People accept that they cannot use the entire surface to smoke on since they see it as a grill first not a smoker. They are also very cheap and very durable so they are popular.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 10:00 PM
If for grilling, a Rotisserie may be a great help.
But a smart clip for meat may be needed

Toronto
11-10-2012, 10:15 PM
If for grilling, a Rotisserie may be a great help.
But a smart clip for meat may be needed

Possibly for some but mostly people cook hamburgers and hotdogs or other non complicated things on their Weber kettles. A rotisserie is really for a niche market and I dont think its a very large percentage of people want them, I could be wrong though.

I think you will find a lot more people who are interested in this "middle section" at an affordable price. This is a lot easier venture than electronics and the chances are a lot lower for failure on the user side. Also, many, many people already own a Weber 22 inch kettle so your market here is very large.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 10:26 PM
OK I will focus on this middle section for Kettle.

MossyMO
11-10-2012, 10:28 PM
I have a Weber rotisserie and would like to have a different style spit rod with a basket style on it for holding food items. Is this anything you have considered offering?

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 11:02 PM
I have a Weber rotisserie and would like to have a different style spit rod with a basket style on it for holding food items. Is this anything you have considered offering?
How many want Rotisserie on Weber
How many want a basket

Toronto
11-10-2012, 11:12 PM
Some info from the Weber site:

GRILL CONSTRUCTION

No-rust aluminum vent and ash catcher
Porcelain-enameled bowl and lid
2 Glass-reinforced nylon handles
Crack-proof all-weather wheels

GRILL DIMENSIONS

With the lid open:
Height: 38.5 inches
Width Right-Left: 25 inches
Depth: 22.5 inches

If you take care of these things they last forever thats why so many people like them and have them. Some people can find them used for as low as $5 or free sometimes online.

How many want Rotisserie on Weber
How many want a basket

A very unscientific way to figure this out would be to do a search on rotisserie's on this site and check the date on them and also see how many of them there are.

woodpelletsmoker
11-10-2012, 11:21 PM
Thanks. But I need exact size of diameter. Then my middle section can fit Kettle

Toronto
11-10-2012, 11:56 PM
Thanks. But I need exact size of diameter. Then my middle section can fit Kettle

I will get you exact measurements tomorrow when I do my cook. I think in the long run it would be in your interest to find a Weber kettle some how in China. You will need one to check for exact fitting for the prototype, it has to have a good seal.

SmokeWatcher
11-11-2012, 06:19 AM
Let's not slip any secrets to the Chinese now! :-P

woodpelletsmoker
11-11-2012, 07:17 AM
Let's not slip any secrets to the Chinese now! :-P

There is no secret in this Internet time.
I am living in Beijing, the North of China.
Most OEM manufacturers are in central east China and South east China.
Landmann, Brinkman,Traeger, Wal-mart are made in China
There are MANY weber Kettle styles in China too.
say 22.5" is RMB270, or US$43., link http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.90.FN6Oec&id=20526816825

General catalog is here http://s.taobao.com/search?spm=a230r.1.10.376.VHV9M9&q=%C6%BB%B9%FB%C2%AF&initiative_id=tbindexz_20121111&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&newpre=null&bcoffset=3&s=40#J_FilterTabBar

Do you call these secrete

woodpelletsmoker
11-11-2012, 07:25 AM
I simply do not want to buy a kettle just for measuring sizes even though it is deadly cheaper in China.
I have better grill/smoker than Weber.
I am doing this is just for you guys to have one more option and SAVE YOUR $$$

woodpelletsmoker
11-11-2012, 07:25 AM
sorry everybody I may be too emotional.

Toronto
11-11-2012, 11:15 AM
I think he was just joking around, dont take it too seriously.

The Weber Kettle lid is 23in in diameter.

The bowl of the Kettle is 22.5in in diameter.

Ill post some pics later tonight for you to see. I suggested you get a Weber Kettle not to cook on but to use for measurements and designing. It might be a good idea to check that all these middle sections fit perfectly on a Kettle before it leaves your factory to avoid any problems.

woodpelletsmoker
11-11-2012, 11:47 PM
Thanks for the sizes.
Unfortunately by this big size I can only send to UK and Canada directly via Post office, which is cheapest shipping method for one piece.
For American market, It is over sized by post office.I must find a partner, I will send big quantity by sea freight and partner in change of retail. But by so doing I am afraid that I lose price benefit
Now only question is how big the Canadian market is.
I think I can forget UK.

Toronto
11-11-2012, 11:54 PM
Even locally in the US a Cajun Bandit conversion kit cost 60-65$ to ship.

scm1226
11-12-2012, 07:59 PM
To bad I was excited to get an inexpensive middle section for my kettle.
Good luck!!

Toronto
11-13-2012, 08:40 AM
To bad I was excited to get an inexpensive middle section for my kettle.
Good luck!!

Me too!

Wang, is there still any interest for you to develop this middle section?

woodpelletsmoker
11-13-2012, 06:45 PM
hard to make final decision. need more feedback from market