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rgrizzle
10-16-2012, 12:42 PM
The plant manager where I work wants me to quote him dinner for 30 plant workers they are wanting pulled pork and brisket. I need help pricing and menu. They usually order from texas road house. So I need to be close on the quote. I'm thinking they usually spend around 6 to 700.

chad
10-16-2012, 01:05 PM
Need some details: are you doing the whole thing? Meat, sides, drinks, dessert, paper/plastic?
Is so, $20 per is not at all unreasonable. If you cook on-site add another $150 or so. If you need to "hire" servers add $20 per staff per hour.

rgrizzle
10-16-2012, 02:47 PM
The dinner will be self serve and he wants all the meats and sides done, not sure about deserts, we will use the paper plates and plastic utinsels that we have at work. I probably cook offsite.

chad
10-16-2012, 02:58 PM
Well, pork is relatively cheap and beef, not so much. I'd figure rough cost at $3 for meat and maybe $.75 per side. Add it up and multiply by 4 to keep a rough 25% food cost then multiply that by 30 to get a the total per plate. Or, figure per pound, delivered: maybe $10 for pork and $12 for beef and some pricing for the sides...add them up and add 10 hours of labor to the total.
Lots of ways to get there, it just depends on how hard you want to work and how much compensation you need.

Example:
10# pork @ $10 per lb. = $100
10# beef @ $12 per lb. = $120
30 orders slaw - $45
30 orders pot salad $45
10 hours labor @ $15 per = $150
Total: $310 + 150 = $480

HBMTN
10-16-2012, 07:40 PM
I do brisket, pork and two sides dropped off 30 people for $12.95pp If your going to set up a buffet and maintain it for an hour including the paper plates, flatware etc and you are not a business with all the overhead I think you could do that meal in the $425 range easy and turn a decent fair profit.

Bbq Bubba
10-17-2012, 07:09 AM
Well, pork is relatively cheap and beef, not so much. I'd figure rough cost at $3 for meat and maybe $.75 per side. Add it up and multiply by 4 to keep a rough 25% food cost then multiply that by 30 to get a the total per plate. Or, figure per pound, delivered: maybe $10 for pork and $12 for beef and some pricing for the sides...add them up and add 10 hours of labor to the total.
Lots of ways to get there, it just depends on how hard you want to work and how much compensation you need.

Example:
10# pork @ $10 per lb. = $100
10# beef @ $12 per lb. = $120
30 orders slaw - $45
30 orders pot salad $45
10 hours labor @ $15 per = $150
Total: $310 + 150 = $480

10 hrs wont cover the prep and set up time let alone cooking and running around?

Bbq Bubba
10-17-2012, 07:10 AM
Unless your cooking all the time you cant make money on a party of 30 nor will you be able to compete with the raunts pricing.

HBMTN
10-17-2012, 12:08 PM
Unless your cooking all the time you cant make money on a party of 30 nor will you be able to compete with the raunts pricing.


While I understand where you are coming from as a business I disagree somewhat. I think he can purchase the needed supplies to this for a ball park of $150 and at my suggested $425 he could make $275. If he is in business then no way he can make a profit after he feeds all the hands that be. But on the other hand if he is just doing this for his boss and a company dinner it's an extra $275 which comes in handy with Christmas right around the corner. His boss has already told him he pays Texas Roadhouse $600-$700 for something like this.

I used to feel like I could not turn a profit on something smaller than 50 people but I lowered my minimum to a $250 order for a drop off and I have done very well this year and picked up some great customers because I did so.

rgrizzle
10-18-2012, 03:01 PM
I don't have a business yet This will be my first paying gig, besides doing a festival a couple of weeks ago. I was thinking somewhere around the 600-700 dollar range I don't want to short change myself. I did find out today that the estimate of 800 that the company spent on the Texas Road House was about 200 more than I thought. I think for 700 I could do a little more like maybe some kind of appitizer and desert.

any suggestions on the menu would be great. we know pulled pork and brisket is what they want.

Hawg Father of Seoul
10-18-2012, 06:42 PM
700/30= $23.33 per person

I have to taste your brisket and pork if it is worth that. $15/pound is what Franklin gets for his brisket. It takes balls to charge more than that per person.

YMMV

If you charge that much, at least pick up some high end cheesecake and provide cans of coke.

jacksons31
10-18-2012, 06:58 PM
I agree with the above, in my area if I charged over $500 I'd be ripping your boss one. Don't think that's the avenue u want to start on. As I gather this is pretty much a 30 person drop off. There utensils/tables.

12-15 a head (depending how confident u r in the quality of your q) * 30 = 360 to 450

This is pretty typical pricing for 2 meats/2 sides, IMO.

landarc
10-18-2012, 07:09 PM
I would get the menu, that is where you start and where things go wrong as well. Do not assume anyhting. You need to know about sides, meats, sauces, dessert, appetizer any other food items. Then assuming that the utensils, plates, napkins, cups are all there already, best to make sure. What about keeping things hot, or cold, is that all accounted for?

Not to be the nay sayer, but, if you are planning on charging, and making money, and being in business, learn to do it right. And don't take jobs from others, unless you are willing to do it right, or do it for free. IMO, you are asking professionals (or former professionals, in my case) for their hard earned knowledge, best to do it right and learn how to make money, not just undercut someone else.

woodpelletsmoker
10-18-2012, 11:04 PM
If I were you, I would do all free for my boss.
I will give all bills to my boss and he pays only real cost.
I will not earn any profit

smokeitupbbq
10-19-2012, 01:54 AM
Sounds like a great idea to make some $$$:roll:. Next time he'll ask you to do it all for free.
Don't get taken advantage of. Decide on your menu, stick to your pricing as long as your confident in your Q, If they don't want to pay what it's worth, let them order from texas roadhouse.
Just did this kind of thing for an old company/boss and they tried giving me the shaft afterwards on real cost/food cost.



If I were you, I would do all free for my boss.
I will give all bills to my boss and he pays only real cost.
I will not earn any profit

jacksons31
10-19-2012, 09:05 AM
Just be careful, and remember not to let the evil $ mess with a good thing. Seen money or the greed for such ruin more than I can count.

gsmith
10-19-2012, 11:35 AM
If I were you, I would do all free for my boss.
I will give all bills to my boss and he pays only real cost.
I will not earn any profit

I second this suggestion

rgrizzle
10-20-2012, 01:15 AM
I know some of you think that I might be pricing this kind of high, but for those that don't know The Texas Road House is a chain restaurant that services is crap just like the food. If they can serve crap for a price over $1,000.00 then the q that I turn out is way better than what they do .. I will not come away from this in the hole.! I may be the union president but I will not lose money!

The workers at the plant has had my q and they know how good it is compaired to what we have around here.

rgrizzle
10-22-2012, 03:49 PM
I gave my boss a quote today for $700 including deserts. He looked at it and said we will be having our Thanksgiving dinner on Nov. 15 what time are we eating? I said around 12 12:30. He said cool send me the invoice.
He didn't even think twice about it.

landarc
10-22-2012, 03:57 PM
Then you under-priced :tongue:

rgrizzle
10-22-2012, 04:07 PM
Then you under-priced :tongue:
That's what I thought when he said looks good to me. let's do it. I was like Damn should of went higher. :doh:

Bbq Bubba
10-24-2012, 09:43 AM
So what are you offering for this quote? Meats, sides, dessert, paper goods, drinks?

rgrizzle
10-29-2012, 03:13 PM
So what are you offering for this quote? Meats, sides, dessert, paper goods, drinks?
I am offering meats sides and desserts.
pulled pork
brisket
mac salad
potato salad
baked beans
cajun beans
corn bread
rolls
salad

apple pie
pecan pie
german chocolate cake
peanut butter bars

landarc
10-29-2012, 03:17 PM
I am offering meats sides and desserts.
pulled pork
brisket
mac salad
potato salad
baked beans
cajun beans
corn bread
rolls
salad

apple pie
pecan pie
german chocolate cake
peanut butter bars

Man, the people you work with must really love their carbs.

rgrizzle
10-29-2012, 03:22 PM
yea and they just love to eat, when we order pizza here we usually get 12 18" pizzas for first shift that has about 20 production and maintenance workers and second shift is usually 4 18" pizzas for 8 of us.

Bbq Bubba
10-29-2012, 03:37 PM
I am offering meats sides and desserts.
pulled pork
brisket
mac salad
potato salad
baked beans
cajun beans
corn bread
rolls
salad

apple pie
pecan pie
german chocolate cake
peanut butter bars

All store bought i assume?

rgrizzle
10-29-2012, 05:41 PM
All store bought i assume?
No I will make everything but the apple pie and pecan pie.

PorkQPine
10-29-2012, 07:32 PM
Not overpriced with all those sides and desserts. Lots of work!

Bbq Bubba
10-30-2012, 06:01 AM
I expect to see a post on the 16th saying how you will never do anything like this again.
Good luck.

Berto01
01-12-2013, 11:56 AM
So how did it go

rgrizzle
01-15-2013, 09:16 PM
Things went great! By the time it was all over we had very little left. The plant manager asked me when I was going to open up a restaurant. Most of them said that had never had BBQ taste that good.
The only negative that I had was my brisket didn't turn out as well as I like it, but they all liked it because that was the first thing to be gone.

Banjo
01-18-2013, 08:01 PM
Can't complain if there is nothing left to complain about!

rgrizzle
01-18-2013, 10:42 PM
Can't complain if there is nothing left to complain about!
so true.