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Big George's BBQ
10-03-2012, 09:39 AM
KCBS has contacted me requesting I change my name/add my state as there is another team similar to mine. My team is Back Porch BBQ. The other is Back Porch Q. I have registered it, have a web site and invested my in a banner and a Brethern Banner. I dont really want to change Can they force this issue.

sitnfat
10-03-2012, 10:07 AM
Who knows there is a group of people north of KC that used my name earlier in the year. I called the contest organizer she said they are locals that only do 1 maybe 2 local contests. She said she would talk to them and ask them to change their name. I have some friends in court over team names. Just another reason to check check check names before hand and make yours different than someone else's. Not just change of spelling there are 2 here close that sound the same but spelled different. Makes awards awkwards at times

richardnoodle
10-03-2012, 10:30 AM
We had to add Buffalo to our name after a couple years of competing(and we did check with KCBS). We didn't have much invested yet so it wasn't a big deal(some shirts and a banner), the problem they told us with giving points to the wrong team.

butt head
10-03-2012, 05:11 PM
I wouldn't

Slamdunkpro
10-03-2012, 05:25 PM
I wouldn't
I wouldn't either if you're happy with your name. Let the other teams that come in later add State or whatever.

AZScott
10-03-2012, 05:43 PM
Which team had the name first? There's a lot of team names out there that are very very similar and like we've all said a hundred times, a simple team number would resolve this issue.

The Cosmic Pig
10-03-2012, 06:53 PM
Looks like you could just add the state or whatever to the team name at the comps for clarification and keep your shirts, banners, etc as they are. They just need to know the difference as someone else said for points, etc. Otherwise, I don't know why it would matter? I renewed my KCBS membership last time because I changed my team name and I wanted it "registered" with them, but they never changed it and I just couldn't care less at this point.

kenthanson
10-03-2012, 06:57 PM
Keep your name the same on everything, banner, website etc. but just when registering for KCBS comps fill out as "Back porch bbq State"

EDIT: Looks like wearcd beat me to it.

Slamdunkpro
10-03-2012, 07:55 PM
Looks like you could just add the state or whatever to the team name at the comps for clarification and keep your shirts, banners, etc as they are. They just need to know the difference as someone else said for points, etc. .........

Keep your name the same on everything, banner, website etc. but just when registering for KCBS comps fill out as "Back porch bbq State"

Why does the original guy have to change? Since George is in the KCBS Database as Back Porch BBQ he clearly picked a name that wasn't in the database. OK, first in - first "registered". Now because someone has come in and wants the same name (or very close) they want George to change? Um, no.

Butt Rubb'n BBQ
10-03-2012, 08:10 PM
I would not change it and no they can't force you to. Go look at all the team names and you will find that there are a lot of teams that have similar names.

The Cosmic Pig
10-03-2012, 10:35 PM
Why does the original guy have to change? Since George is in the KCBS Database as Back Porch BBQ he clearly picked a name that wasn't in the database. OK, first in - first "registered". Now because someone has come in and wants the same name (or very close) they want George to change? Um, no.

I'm not advocating he change his name in ANY way. All I'm saying is if he wants to get credit for winning, etc, it's not a big deal to add the state to his name while he's at a comp. That's all I did. I absolutely wouldn't change my name to the extent of needing new banners, shirts, etc. That's just ridiculous. :tsk:

kenthanson
10-04-2012, 02:10 AM
Because sometimes the juice isn't worth the squeeze. On one hand we have changing nothing and having to deal with contest result issues or adding as little as two letters to a contest registration form and having no issues at all.

DawgPhan
10-04-2012, 07:42 AM
and people wonder why KCBS TOY, BBQRace.com, and National BBQ Rankings have issues with getting the team names right.

White Dog BBQ
10-04-2012, 08:16 AM
If you were the first to use your name, then you shouldn't have to change -- period.

Just tell KCBS Back Porch BBQ is your intellectual property. Considering how vigilant KCBS in defending their IP, they should see your point.

The real solution to this is to have each team registered under an ID number and track TotY that way.

deguerre
10-04-2012, 08:43 AM
If someone is too dense to recognize the difference between "BBQ' and just "Q", regardless of what comes before it, then they ain't got no bidness being there.

Big George's BBQ
10-04-2012, 02:26 PM
According to Sara Wells they were first. I have just noticed them recently in the Comps. According to her KCBS rules say no duplicate name I do not see this as a duplicate She said that things had fallen through the cracks and no one noticed this until she began spring house cleaning

chrisnjenn
10-04-2012, 02:54 PM
I see it as a duplicate also ( Back Porch BBQ or Q is the same thing IMO) and since you were not first (easy to see--go to their site and see who signed up first), you should just add 2 little letters to the end of your team name on the application (not banners, etc.) to honor KCBS's rules (which I think are fair in this case). Not a big deal to do that.

Brew-B-Q
10-04-2012, 03:36 PM
The Back Porch Q I know has been competing for 4 years or more here in IL. I think there is a local to me brethren that named their team Drew-B-Q, which of course could sound a lot like Brew-B-Q at awards, but I don't really care that much.

butt head
10-04-2012, 04:23 PM
According to Sara Wells they were first. I have just noticed them recently in the Comps. According to her KCBS rules say no duplicate name I do not see this as a duplicate She said that things had fallen through the cracks and no one noticed this until she began spring house cleaning
since when do's KCBS follow rules :icon_shy

Big George's BBQ
10-04-2012, 06:44 PM
We joined in 2007 They do not have a date listed

BackPorch
10-05-2012, 12:44 PM
I've been competing for 6 seasons and registered my name with kcbs when i started. My scores on bbqbug used to get confused with yours. As far as kcbs goes things have been fine. I wouldn't think a name change would be necessary since they are different

butt head
10-05-2012, 03:38 PM
I've been competing for 6 seasons and registered my name with kcbs when i started. My scores on bbqbug used to get confused with yours. As far as kcbs goes things have been fine. I wouldn't think a name change would be necessary since they are different
did you contact KCBS about this and ask for a name change ?
dosn't make any sence to bring it up after 6 years

BackPorch
10-05-2012, 04:30 PM
Didn't want a name change was just commenting to the guy with the issue

BackPorch
10-05-2012, 04:44 PM
I've been competing for 6 seasons and registered my name with kcbs when i started. My scores on bbqbug used to get confused with yours. As far as kcbs goes things have been fine. I wouldn't think a name change would be necessary since they are different

Wasn't clear I guess I'm back porch q he is back porch BBQ

Big George's BBQ
10-06-2012, 03:32 PM
Didn't want a name change was just commenting to the guy with the issue

I dont really have an issue Glad you joined us here. KCBS contacted me I see there is a similarity but they are still differant Thank you for sharing your oppinion

BBQchef33
10-09-2012, 12:23 AM
now that thats settled.. :)



different discussion......


Lets start an org called KCBS of America and see how long it takes KCBS to send out the Cease and Desist letter. After all, its only a location.

??????

Pyle's BBQ
10-09-2012, 01:04 AM
now that thats settled.. :)



different discussion......


Lets start an org called KCBS of America and see how long it takes KCBS to send out the Cease and Desist letter. After all, its only a location.

??????

Doesn't depend on what the BS stands for?

Just BS
10-09-2012, 11:36 AM
Doesn't depend on what the BS stands for?


Hey now.... :loco:

Divemaster
10-11-2012, 03:57 PM
Doesn't depend on what the BS stands for?

Hey now.... :loco:

I say no! We all know what the 'BS' stands for in KCBS... :drama::drama::drama: