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bbqbrad
09-08-2012, 01:35 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Let me start with saying I understand that your job is difficult. I would not want to be in your shoes. I respect what you do for kcbs.

The new members ran under a understanding of nothing held back from the members. Then there was a problem in Tennesee. The board came down on the problem. And there were punishments. Some members spoke about those punishments. I supported the board in those punishments. But now there have been problems with the contest in Myrtle Beach with the reps.

I hope the board will look at this issue with open eyes. I have not seen posts by board members about these issues. I hope that the board will address these issues and punish the reps that were supposed to oversee this contest. All I ask is the same concern is given to this problem.

Thank you for your time.

YankeeBBQ
09-09-2012, 05:41 PM
I hope the board will look at this issue with open eyes. I have not seen posts by board members about these issues. I hope that the board will address these issues and punish the reps that were supposed to oversee this contest. All I ask is the same concern is given to this problem.

Thank you for your time.

Brad the majority of the KCBS board of directors does not read the Brethren forum. Even though the heading of this section of the forum is "For the Board" it is not an official way to communicate with the board of directors. If you or anyone else feels strongly about this issue or any other issue I suggest you contact the board via email. I can assure you there were plenty of emails regarding the McMinnville issue both regarding the incident itself and the punishment that the board enforced.

bbqbrad
06-14-2013, 08:35 PM
In the June Board Notes...

"Mike Peters

I make the motion to pay Roger Wise of KCBS team Pickin Porkers $400 for their contest win (2nd place brisket) at the Smoke on the Beach contest held in Myrtle Beach, SC on August 31, 2012.

Don Harwell second

9 yes, 1 no (Shupe) Motion passed

I make the motion to not sanction the 2013 Smoke on the Beach contest to be held in Myrtle Beach, SC on August 31 (which is being promoted on their website as a KCBS sanctioned event) until the $400 is reimbursed to KCBS.



Dave Compton Second

9 yes, 1 no (Shupe), motion passed

- See more at: http://www.kcbs.us/news.php?id=656#sthash.87mJno1K.dpuf"

drbbq
06-16-2013, 10:15 AM
LOL! Was Tana the rep?

Smoke'n Ice
06-16-2013, 04:27 PM
Doc, did you have to ask?

bbqbrad
06-16-2013, 08:34 PM
Yep!!

dmprantz
06-19-2013, 01:41 PM
Just passing through, but since I was mentioned in this thread by some one else, I'll say it's nice to know that some people get nine months, cool heads, and a pass from the rep BOD member when they are punished, then an easy path at redemption, while others only get 72 hours and the hammer. At least we were both told to pay to get out of punishment.

Back to my corner...

dmp

Candy Sue
06-20-2013, 04:07 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Let me start with saying I understand that your job is difficult. I would not want to be in your shoes. I respect what you do for kcbs.

The new members ran under a understanding of nothing held back from the members. Then there was a problem in Tennesee. The board came down on the problem. And there were punishments. Some members spoke about those punishments. I supported the board in those punishments. But now there have been problems with the contest in Myrtle Beach with the reps.

I hope the board will look at this issue with open eyes. I have not seen posts by board members about these issues. I hope that the board will address these issues and punish the reps that were supposed to oversee this contest. All I ask is the same concern is given to this problem.

Thank you for your time.

Any rep issue in Myrtle Beach last year, was handled last year. The current problem had nothing to do with the reps, but rather an issue that the organizer had with a team and the organizer's response to that problem. The motion proposed, voted and accepted solves this problem.

Any KCBS member can listen to the last open meeting with every detail on the mp3 file. Before going into closed session, I read the agenda. After that part is done, we re-adjourn the open meeting, bring up motions for votes that result from the discussions in closed session.

drbbq
06-20-2013, 09:39 PM
I wish there was a way to communicate with the members that's a little friendlier than "listen to a three hour podcast". Ain't nobody got time for that.

Candy Sue
06-21-2013, 09:01 AM
I agree. But how could that be provided without a biased slant? Only way to really know (and form your own opinion) what goes on is to listen to the meeting.

drbbq
06-23-2013, 03:14 PM
How about just telling the truth? Somebody sum it up for us. What was the thinking when reinstating this rep? It seems like a fair question.

drbbq
06-23-2013, 03:52 PM
How about just telling the truth? Somebody sum it up for us. What was the thinking when reinstating this rep? It seems like a fair question.

Sorry I jumped over to the other issue but it still seems like a fair way to do it.

The question is "Why are we (KCBS) paying $400?"

And I'd still like an answer to the question about the reinstated rep.

Again, these seem like fair questions.

Here Piggy Piggy
06-23-2013, 10:40 PM
Please excuse me should I type something incorrectly other than my opinion. New to this forum and want to play by all the rules, both on this forum and in regards to my position as a director of KCBS.

I can only speak for what you can listen to as a KCBS member on what you can find on the downloaded BOD meeting.

I made the motion to pay out monies to Roger Wise/Pickin Porkers. They competed in a Fri/Sat contest and placed 2nd place in the brisket category. The payout was $400. Bottom line was the contest stopped payment on that check based upon something that occured on Sunday. All of this happened last year prior to my election on the board and had not been resolved.
The second motion made was that KCBS needs to be reimbursed that $400 before KCBS sanctions the contest again.

As to the reinstated Rep, I believe that the rep is reinstated as a Rep Trainee and will have to go through required trainee responsibilities such as shadowing current contest representatives before coming back before the BOD to be voted upon for approval.

I hope that this answers your questions and I look forward to interacting more on this forum when I can.

Mike Peters
mpeters@kcbs.us

drbbq
06-24-2013, 10:34 AM
Thank you Mike. Unfortunately it seems that the "Exec Session" nonsense limits what you can say but at least we can skip the 3 hour podcast.

As for the rep. well I understand that it's just allowing him to be a trainee, but I'd question training a guy who has that track record.

BMerrill
06-28-2013, 10:47 AM
I was at the Myrtle Beach Contest last year. The location is a great venue to have a contest but that was quickly marred by how poorly it was run by both the reps and the organizers. From talking with several other teams that were there, even if KCBS sanctions the contest, no one is returning. If you dare to enter you have been forewarned. There are much better ways of spending your Labor Day weekend in Myrtle Beach. Skip the contest; hit the beach, take in a show, or do some shopping at the outlets.

Wrench_H
06-28-2013, 01:15 PM
I was at the Myrtle Beach Contest last year. The location is a great venue to have a contest but that was quickly marred by how poorly it was run by both the reps and the organizers. From talking with several other teams that were there, even if KCBS sanctions the contest, no one is returning. If you dare to enter you have been forewarned. There are much better ways of spending your Labor Day weekend in Myrtle Beach. Skip the contest; hit the beach, take in a show, or do some shopping at the outlets.

I agree with all of this, but for some reason I still signed up...I guess I'm a glutton for punishment. Its just too hard to pass up the only contest that is within an hour of home. I really wish they would get it together, its a great venue, and a could be a great contest with a little organization.

ButchB
06-28-2013, 03:18 PM
Who sanctions this contest? Only MB contest I can find is sanctioned by SBN.

cpw
06-28-2013, 03:32 PM
Who sanctions this contest? Only MB contest I can find is sanctioned by SBN.

It may be that it hasn't been re-sanctioned by KCBS, but I'm pretty sure last year it was dual sanctioned by KCBS and SBN.

Wrench_H
07-01-2013, 10:50 AM
Who sanctions this contest? Only MB contest I can find is sanctioned by SBN.

As cpw said, they were duel sanctioned last year. Their website is advertising it as the same thing this year, but from this thread it sounds like KCBS hasn't completely signed off just yet.

Smoke'n Ice
07-01-2013, 03:42 PM
From the June 2013 BOD Meeting Quick Notes:
Mike Peters
I make the motion to pay Roger Wise of KCBS team Pickin Porkers $400 for their contest win (2nd place brisket) at the Smoke on the Beach contest held in Myrtle Beach, SC on August 31, 2012.
Don Harwell second
9 aye, 1 no (Shupe) Motion passed

I make the motion to not sanction the 2013 Smoke on the Beach contest to be held in Myrtle Beach, SC on August 31 (which is being promoted on their website as a KCBS sanctioned event) until the $400 is reimbursed to KCBS.

Dave Compton Second
9 aye, 1 no (Shupe), motion passed

Jacked UP BBQ
07-01-2013, 03:46 PM
Who is Shupe?

bbqbrad
07-01-2013, 05:17 PM
Who is Shupe?

Last year's KCBS rep to this contest...When the problems happened...:doh:

Wrench_H
07-02-2013, 12:51 PM
From the June 2013 BOD Meeting Quick Notes:
Mike Peters
I make the motion to pay Roger Wise of KCBS team Pickin Porkers $400 for their contest win (2nd place brisket) at the Smoke on the Beach contest held in Myrtle Beach, SC on August 31, 2012.
Don Harwell second
9 aye, 1 no (Shupe) Motion passed

I make the motion to not sanction the 2013 Smoke on the Beach contest to be held in Myrtle Beach, SC on August 31 (which is being promoted on their website as a KCBS sanctioned event) until the $400 is reimbursed to KCBS.

Dave Compton Second
9 aye, 1 no (Shupe), motion passed

This could get interesting. They are certainly advertising it as a KCBS event, http://www.smokeonthebeach.com/sotb-bbb.html, as well as one of the events participating in the Smithfield series, which it doesn't appear to be part of either. I wonder what if anything KCBS will do about this. My check was written under the assumption that this was a KCBS event. Is there any recourse that KCBS can take if they run the event just like a KCBS event, but without the actual sanctioning?

Again, I am doing it just because its the closest thing to a local contest that we have, and its a pretty fun weekend(plus this will be my first night away from the house since the baby was born, and I'm not missing that opportunity :)) It does make me a little nervous though that they have cashed my check, and their website seems to be pretty bogus. Is anyone else planning to attend?

BMerrill
07-15-2013, 01:20 PM
Wrench.
IMHO, ask for your money back and soon. I was there last year, it was a very poorly run contest by the organizers or the reps alike; don't see it changing. (Search Myrtle Beach for some of the things that happen).
I will add, it is one of the best venues to have a contest.

CivilWarBBQ
07-17-2013, 02:35 AM
FYI - all mention of KCBS has been dropped from the event website now.

Smoke'n Ice
07-17-2013, 09:29 PM
Actually, the last bod meeting indicated that they had fulfilled their requirement and it was now on for those who want to attend.

CivilWarBBQ
07-18-2013, 05:37 AM
Actually, there is still nothing on the event website to indicate it will be a KCBS event as of 7/18/13 at 6AM.

Candy Sue
07-18-2013, 12:34 PM
It is not a KCBS sanctioned event. I hate that! Organizer's choice.

Bentley
07-18-2013, 10:43 PM
Bummer, was looking forward to cooking it in 2014..maybe by them it will have shaped up or be gone.

What were some specific issues?

BMerrill
07-27-2013, 09:19 PM
For the last several years it has been a KCBS and SBN combined contest.
This year it appears to be a non-sanctioned event.
Got a letter today with an application (competed in the contest last year).
Entry fee is $100 and includes the meat which the team will prepare for the judging and serving to the public from 12-5pm on Saturday August 31. Guessing they will be giving teams several cases of pork butts simular to last year. (our team had no idea they were doing this and no way to cook several case of butts they brought by, we had to decline.)
They advertise paying 1-10th places.
1st is $10,000, 2nd is 3,000, 3rd is $2,000, ....... with a total purse over $20,000.
Applications on their website, Beach boogie and BBQ, Myrtle Beach, SC.
http://www.smokeonthebeach.com/sotb-bbb.html
It you enter good luck. I will not be there.

Market Hunter
07-31-2013, 05:33 PM
FYI...From an email I received yesterday about the Myrtle Beach event:

" First let me thank all of our past participants that have supported OMAR Shrine Temple, WE THANK YOU!!!

Illustrious Sir. Jimmy Day has again given me the opportunity to serve on his staff to work with the BBQ Teams. We look forward to seeing each and every one again this year. This year’s event will be a little different than the years past, this year we will not be judged or sanctioned by KCBS or SBN. Plans are to use one person off of each team if possible or a local celebrity to help with the BBQ judging, “example” if we have 24 teams will ask for a member from teams 1-12 to judge teams 13 thru 24 and one member from teams 13 thru 24 to judge teams 1 thru 12. Please visit the web site www.smokeonthebeach.com (http://www.smokeonthebeach.com) and you will see the registration form for team signup. If you have already mailed in your form we would really appreciate if you would print and complete the latest form and send it in again. . Sorry for the inconvenience and if you have any questions please feel free to contact the Omar office at 843-971-0131 or John McClary at 803-793-7308 or toh@barnwellsc.com.
Also click on the site map link to see the field layout for this year(we are across the road). As you will see the electrical service will/may be limited. No one will have a dedicated 20 amp service for large RV’s. I would advise if you have a small generator I would load it up!!!

Please if you have a friend that may want to join us this year, we can use the help to get the word out.

Thank you Again!
John McClary "

Wrench_H
08-01-2013, 02:04 PM
Ok, I finally gave up and asked for my money back today. I really wanted to do this thing because it was a good time last year despite the lack of organization and is so close to home. The fact that they don't have any rules regarding turn ins and the use of team members as judges were kind of the last straws. Oh well.