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thegizzard
08-05-2012, 10:45 AM
I own the Lion, and I like it. If you have questions about this product, please ask away. Many of the answers will apply to the Tiger too.

Ask away...

jetfxr27
08-05-2012, 04:40 PM
I get a battery low alert constant and have tried 3 sets of batteries. The freshest pair read around 1.45v. I am assuming the remote is voltage hungry with backlighting etc. Can you check your batteries?

Squeal Appeal
08-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Battery low alert is your power supply battery, not remote battery.. Have you got your power battery hooked up to a power supply?

jetfxr27
08-05-2012, 08:42 PM
I tied the wires to a 12v cigarette lighter adapter and tried a jump box the first time. Second time a tried a socket adapter.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/110v-AC-WALL-Plug-12V-DC-Car-Charger-Socket-Adapter-US-Plug-/00/%24(KGrHqF,!lEE5KKsou!!BOUdpV)L(!~~48_35.JPG.

Both times was a low battery display on the remote and on the PID. I will try a better source. I have an old laptop transformer that I'll give a whirl.

woodpelletsmoker
08-05-2012, 08:49 PM
I tied the wires to a 12v cigarette lighter adapter and tried a jump box the first time. Second time a tried a socket adapter.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/110v-AC-WALL-Plug-12V-DC-Car-Charger-Socket-Adapter-US-Plug-/00/%24(KGrHqF,!lEE5KKsou!!BOUdpV)L(!~~48_35.JPG.

Both times was a low battery display on the remote and on the PID. I will try a better source. I have an old laptop transformer that I'll give a whirl.
If battery on remote set is 1.45 V, it is TOO LOW.
I measure my new battery is 1.59 V.
In most cases laptop adapter is not big enough.
If you use AC/DC adapter, use 12 VDC 2 amps or bigger amps.
If you use a battery, use 12 VDC 2 A.H or bigger.

jetfxr27
08-06-2012, 07:19 AM
Got it. Will reconnect higher power on both ends.

thegizzard
08-06-2012, 07:40 AM
I get a battery low alert constant and have tried 3 sets of batteries. The freshest pair read around 1.45v. I am assuming the remote is voltage hungry with backlighting etc. Can you check your batteries?

The Lion does not have a remote, but I thought I could provide some information on how I power my Lion. The same options work for Tiger.

1) Sealed Lead Acid Battery.

This is a standard alarm system battery I had lying around the house. It is 12v @ 5ah. It produces more than enough power to run the Lion and Fan. The only downside to this battery is it's size (3.5" x 4" x 3")

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8c2cd0Psv1rct7y3o1_1280.jpg

I use this charger, that I purchased from amazon at the link below:



http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41scp4QL1CL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Amazon.com: UPG D1730 Sealed Lead Acid Charger (12V Dual-Stage with Screw Terminals): Electronics

2) One day I forgot to charge the battery, so I used this 12v wall wort. At 12v @ 2A it provides enough power for the LION and Fan. As the inventor of the product has indicated, 12v @ 2A is the minimum that should be used. In my case, I had a few of these lying around.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8c2cd0Psv1rct7y3o2_1280.jpg

Finally I purchased this Lithium Ion Battery from eBay, which I am waiting to arrive. It cost $31 and will take a couple of weeks to get here from China. I tried to find the equivalent at my local Batteries Plus store, but all they had were Seal Lead Acid and other similar options.

I am looking forward to the Lithium Ion for its long lasting power small size. It should fit in the Stainless Steel Box nicely.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8c2cd0Psv1rct7y3o3_1280.jpg



http://www.ebay.com/itm/170794794136?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_3649wt_1397

I hope this helps with the part of your question on powering the Tiger.

thegizzard
08-06-2012, 07:42 AM
Keep the questions coming. I will have some time to produce some documentation this week. I am working on a couple of guides which are going to help you all get set up.

jetfxr27
08-06-2012, 08:15 PM
Awesome! Thanks Gizz. for the info. As soon as I get a good power source I'll have to take you up on the offer. On a side why does the lion have an antenna if there's no remote?

woodpelletsmoker
08-06-2012, 08:57 PM
Awesome! Thanks Gizz. for the info. As soon as I get a good power source I'll have to take you up on the offer. On a side why does the lion have an antenna if there's no remote?
Indeed LION is wireless too. WIFI does not need wire.
When I say wireless remote controller, I refer to TIGER.

jetfxr27
08-07-2012, 08:18 PM
Ok, found a good 12v 3.5a power supply. Got it all hooked up and all controls seem operational. Remote works fine. All my batt. warnings are gone.

Now, where do I start? I tried the ops manual available on the website, but there was a lot of head scratching.

I played with most every feature pages on the remote, its just there's a lot of features/ settings that aren't intuitive to cooking. The meat has only 2 pages of settings while the pit temp. seems to have 4 pages.

Can't wait to figure this dude out. Any tips would be helpful..

jetfxr27
08-08-2012, 05:59 PM
I think I am answering my own questions, lol.
Read over the ops manual this morning over coffee as opposed to last night over beer. I feel like I have a little bit better understanding of the basics.

Still not ready to cook. Hopefully with a little more playing around I will get a feel for it and know what specific questions to ask.

Gr8adventure
08-12-2012, 07:11 AM
Okay I've got the controller hooked up and running to start a pork butt as I write this. I've set the pit tempt for 225. I've got it set in Auto mode. Initially it brought it up to temp. However, now thank goodness I don't have the butt on yet, because it has allowed the temp to drop down to 209 and the fan hasn't come back on to bring it back to temp. Is it just trying to learn the pit or should I be concerned.

I haven't tried to put in manual, because the last time I did I had a heck of time getting it back to auto mode.

thegizzard
08-12-2012, 07:21 AM
What do you have UDC set at? What is your power source?

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Gr8adventure
08-12-2012, 07:31 AM
UDC is 60 and now suddenly it working like it should and I have the butt on.

I finally used the remote to put the unit in Manual for a little while and then put it back into auto and for some reason that seemed to do the trick.

Now the only strange thing left is that when I put it into manual mode via the remote the low battery alarm goes off. I tested by turning it on and off several times and it happened every time.

woodpelletsmoker
08-12-2012, 07:50 AM
"it has allowed the temp to drop down to 209 and the fan hasn't come back on to bring it back to temp."
Do not disturb the process. do not open the cover, do not turn off the controller, do not turn to manually. Soon it will learn itsself. This is the feature of variable PID voltage output.

Gr8adventure
08-12-2012, 08:00 AM
"it has allowed the temp to drop down to 209 and the fan hasn't come back on to bring it back to temp."
Do not disturb the process. do not open the cover, do not turn off the controller, do not turn to manually. Soon it will learn itsself. This is the feature of variable PID voltage output.

Wang, Thank you! I thought that might be the case, but it did have me a little concerned.

Now that I have the pork butt in so far its keeping the temp within 5 degrees. At first the temp went as high as 229 and now it has dropped back down to 220. Am I to assume at this point it is still learning the cooker. It has been an hour and 45 minutes since I first started the controller if that makes a difference.

Soon I want to add some more pecan and apple wood is that going to mess up the PID's learning process.

woodpelletsmoker
08-12-2012, 08:04 AM
After every disturb the controller will teach itsself again.
Also in my gravity feed burner the controller can keep temperature swing in 1 F.
But in other fire box, temperature is not as stable as in my burner.

Gr8adventure
08-12-2012, 08:35 AM
I'm going to need to do a boiling water test because my Maverick pit probe is right next to the Tiger's pit probe and maverick is reading 226 right now while the Tigers hasn't budged from 220 for approximately 30 minutes. Is this normal?

Also I asked this earlier, but you may have missed the question. Is it normal for the low battery alarm to come on when placing the pit in manual mode from the remote?

jetfxr27
08-12-2012, 08:54 AM
Also I asked this earlier, but you may have missed the question. Is it normal for the low battery alarm to come on when placing the pit in manual mode from the remote?

Two things
1. Is your power supply rated at greater than 2 amps? Realistically a 4 amp is better. I had noticed in your earlier post it was a 500ma.

2. I believe the low amperage power supply (if that's what you're using) coupled with the switching to MAN mode, where I am assuming the fan is set to high is a HUGE draw for the power supply and the voltage is dropping, which signals the low battery alarm.

Just my thoughts from farting with mine....

jetfxr27
08-12-2012, 09:16 AM
Gr8adventure,
I just went and re-read your post.
This is the power supply I was talking about. I see its 2 amps, however looking at the bulk of that thing I bet its overrated. I had lots of Batt issues early on and it all pointed back to the power supply, be it low power, loose connections etc.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8c2cd0Psv1rct7y3o2_1280.jpg

Gr8adventure
08-12-2012, 09:16 AM
Two things
1. Is your power supply rated at greater than 2 amps? Realistically a 4 amp is better. I had noticed in your earlier post it was a 500ma.

2. I believe the low amperage power supply (if that's what you're using) coupled with the switching to MAN mode, where I am assuming the fan is set to high is a HUGE draw for the power supply and the voltage is dropping, which signals the low battery alarm.

Just my thoughts from farting with mine....

I'm plugged into 110 now and have been attempting to get a replacement or battery or refund from the Ebay seller.

Pardon, just saw your second post...

Gr8adventure
08-12-2012, 09:35 AM
I'm really feeling stupid... no wonder there was an issue my ac/dc adapter is one of those that you can change the voltage on and the switch was changed to 9 volts. Now that the controller is not being starved for power it is having to recalibrate.:oops::doh:

Gr8adventure
08-12-2012, 12:34 PM
Okay even though I've fixed my ac/dc adapter issue I'm still not convinced I've fixed my issues.

Wang told me this morning at about 6:00 a.m. PST. that the reason the pit dropped to 209F is the PID is learning my pit so I need to leave everything alone. However as I stated earlier I had already put placed it in manual to get the fan going. It was only placed on manual for less than a minute and when it was placed back onto auto the fan continued to run until it got back to the set temp of 250F.

The same exact thing happened again about 8:00 a.m., but this time I followed Wang's advice and did nothing for 2 hours. At that point I was concerned my butt wouldn't be ready on time for dinner if I waited any longer. So once again I put the controller on manual for less than 1 minute, placed it back into auto and the fan kept running until it reached 250F. Just how long should this thing take to "learn my pit." Its now 10:30 a.m. and its been running since 5:00 a.m..

What am I doing wrong or not understanding now?

woodpelletsmoker
08-12-2012, 08:06 PM
1.What MEAT temperature do you set, P1,P2,P3, where do you put meat probe.
2.Do you change other parameters of P,I,D

woodpelletsmoker
08-12-2012, 08:32 PM
Meat probe and temperature also can effect the fan.
Where do you put the meat probe
What value of P1,P2,P3 do you set
and what real P1 reads.

Once an user did not want to use meat probe.
He just left the meat probe outside the smoker and set P1=50
Then the fan did not run.
When meat temperature reaches to P1, the fan will not run

thegizzard
08-13-2012, 05:52 AM
I usually start with no value at all in P1. This way the temp is fully controlled by the Pit Thermometer.

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thegizzard
08-18-2012, 08:40 PM
Below is my new power setup for the Lion. This is the Lithium Ion battery I purchased from ebay at http://www.ebay.com/itm/170794794136

The picture is to give you an idea of its size. If it is truly 12V @ 9800ah, it is pretty small. Some testing will confirm.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8zawlZP101rct7y3o1_1280.jpg

I am waiting on a replacement probe so there is limited testing I can do. More info to come as soon as I get back up and running.

BTW: The tennis ball is only there for size reference. Everything works perfectly well without it. :wink:

thegizzard
08-20-2012, 08:11 AM
I may need to revisit my recommendation on the battery. After fully charging and putting the battery on a volt meter ... It's only putting out 11.26 volts. This is not good. I confirmed with Wang that 12V is the minimum required voltage. I am working on a refund or replacement for the battery.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m921vgWp5s1rct7y3o1_1280.jpg

woodpelletsmoker
08-20-2012, 09:23 AM
I can buy this model at about US$35 including shipping inside China.
I am just wondering how you can buy it at US$30 and shipment is from China to American.

thegizzard
08-20-2012, 02:33 PM
I can buy this model at about US$35 including shipping inside China.
I am just wondering how you can buy it at US$30 and shipment is from China to American.

No idea. But so far its not a great deal since it doesn't work.


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thegizzard
08-20-2012, 02:34 PM
Replacement Probe Arrived today!!

Documents and video will start production this evening!

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BluesDaddy
08-20-2012, 02:42 PM
I can buy this model at about US$35 including shipping inside China.
I am just wondering how you can buy it at US$30 and shipment is from China to American.

You're getting ripped off! :wink:

thegizzard
08-23-2012, 06:47 PM
Water Boil Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8QaWRWyAKE


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BluesDaddy
08-24-2012, 04:54 AM
Water Boil Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8QaWRWyAKE


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Seems pretty accurate. What is the elevation where you live? Remember, water boils at 212 at one atmospheric pressure (i.e. at sea level).

BluesDaddy
08-24-2012, 05:08 AM
Finally got my battery/charger yesterday in the mail. I wound up taping the power leads from the Tiger to the connector to check that it would power up, etc., which it does. I've ordered a female connector to match the battery's output to solder to the Tiger's leads - thought I was ordering from a US location that turned out to be Hong Kong (just love Ebay), so another three week wait on that. But I should be able to check everything out tomorrow with it jerry rigged the way it is.

Gizzard, I seem to recall you saying you were going to take a stab at a truly English user manual, but maybe I'm misremembering that. Any progress?

thegizzard
08-24-2012, 07:26 AM
Seems pretty accurate. What is the elevation where you live? Remember, water boils at 212 at one atmospheric pressure (i.e. at sea level).

I am at 728 feet, so the boiling point should be 210 degrees. Just about right. I forgot to turn on the light above the stove so the video is a little dark. I may make another one.

thegizzard
08-24-2012, 07:30 AM
Gizzard, I seem to recall you saying you were going to take a stab at a truly English user manual, but maybe I'm misremembering that. Any progress?


You are correct about the manual. I started it and then got hung up trying to get my Windows 7 PC to connect to an Ad Hoc network. Apparently Windows 7 does not like Ad Hoc networks.

Anyway, that got me distracted. I can finish documenting the setup using images from Ubuntu Laptop, no problem. So I will get to it this weekend.

thegizzard
08-24-2012, 07:32 AM
Finally got my battery/charger yesterday in the mail. I wound up taping the power leads from the Tiger to the connector to check that it would power up, etc., which it does. I've ordered a female connector to match the battery's output to solder to the Tiger's leads - thought I was ordering from a US location that turned out to be Hong Kong (just love Ebay), so another three week wait on that. But I should be able to check everything out tomorrow with it jerry rigged the way it is.


After a lot of back and forth with the seller of the battery i bought, I decided to accept a partial refund rather than wait weeks to ship back the original battery and get a full refund. I am now going to create a frankenstein battery that I will post pictures of shortly.

thegizzard
08-24-2012, 09:31 AM
Here is the Frankenstein battery I am going to try and use now. As you can see, I strapped a 1.5v 1900mah rechargeable battery to the Lithium Ion pack to get enough volts to safely run the Lion. We'll see.

after

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m99k6ywCUf1rct7y3o1_1280.jpg

before

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m921vgWp5s1rct7y3o1_1280.jpg

BluesDaddy
08-24-2012, 11:42 AM
For those interested, as best I can tell these the connector to these camcorder batteries are 2.1mm x 5mm. Radio Shack terms these Size K connectors and has a female one with a switch - you can see at http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103611&clickid=prod_cs. I ordered a connector off of ebay from Hong Kong for $1.29 but think I will go get one of these from RS.

thegizzard
08-24-2012, 12:11 PM
BD,

What are those connectors for? Is that to connect directly to the Tiger/Lion?

BluesDaddy
08-25-2012, 08:38 AM
BD,

What are those connectors for? Is that to connect directly to the Tiger/Lion?

Should connect to the male power connector coming off one of those CCTV batteries (or the AC adapter) so that you don't have to do any splicing of wires.

woodpelletsmoker
08-25-2012, 10:42 AM
Okay I've got the controller hooked up and running to start a pork butt as I write this. I've set the pit tempt for 225. I've got it set in Auto mode. Initially it brought it up to temp. However, now thank goodness I don't have the butt on yet, because it has allowed the temp to drop down to 209 and the fan hasn't come back on to bring it back to temp. Is it just trying to learn the pit or should I be concerned.

I haven't tried to put in manual, because the last time I did I had a heck of time getting it back to auto mode.
just give it longer time to teach by itsself

thegizzard
08-25-2012, 10:58 AM
Should connect to the male power connector coming off one of those CCTV batteries (or the AC adapter) so that you don't have to do any splicing of wires.

Ok. I got that covered.

I use this (male):

http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-2266174w345.jpg

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103614

and this (female):

http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-2264648w345.jpg

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102490

jetfxr27
08-26-2012, 07:01 PM
What I used. A little cheaper, not as clean.
http://images2.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/68801.jpg
http://images2.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/68811.jpg
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=110&cp_id=11009

Bikaone
02-09-2013, 11:30 PM
Hello to you...and i would like to ask you if you would be so nice...so many of us having major issues with the WiFi setup. It creates all kind of issues. My router is brand new. WD...decked out with features the latest model but cant find the WIFI signal. The computer can on the bottom corner it shows up as GL but it will not show up when i look for it in the control panel Network and sharing. I tried the manual TCP IP trick it didnt work. No webpage comes up with 192.168.1.15...It runs out of time and the windows7 swithes back to the default WD connection. Please help out if you could. How did you make yours working?.It is driving me nuts. .Thank so much for your time. This controller beaten up IT people to, so you would be our savior..Thanks...Bikaone

thegizzard
02-10-2013, 12:39 AM
Glad first creates a ad hoc connection. For some reason I was never able to connect to the ad hoc connection using the same Windows 7. In the end, I used my iPad to set up the lion. What operating system r u using?

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ChrisH
02-10-2013, 01:17 AM
Getting the Lion online was a huge hassle! As Mr Wang says different computers require different settings... Personally I don't buy it, the onus should be on him as the manufacturer/retailer. Interestingly, Rocks Smoker has some pretty useful documentation on their website. This helped: https://www.rocksbarbque.com/PDF/Stoker_inet.pdf

The steps I followed we these:

Firstly, connect to the Ad Hoc network on a computer, smartphone, tablet, etc doesn't really matter which and go to the supplied address (192.168.1.15). I found windows 7 chrome worked for the most part, but I do remember having to use Mozilla for a while. May have been a cookies issue, not sure. Safari on my iPhone and iPad worked most of the time, while m buddy with an android phone struggled to connect. Anyway, once connected play around with it to get a feel for the layout etc. you should be able to control your smoker from this point. This is as far as the provided guidance goes. Disconnect from the Golden Lion network.

Next, log into your router using a patch cable - I took the opportunity to install ddwrt, which is far more capable, open source firmware for various different routers. You will need to figure out your router's config page, often 192.168.1.1, and username and password, often admin/admin. At this point I would (temporarily) disconnect all other devices from the router. Disable security for your network and reboot the router.

Now, disconnect the patch cable and reconnect to the ad hoc golden lion network. Navigate to the IP address and select the wireless network settings option from the left. The username is admin and the password 000000. Change the SSID from GOLDEN-LION to whatever your home network SSID is, eg Smith Home etc. Change the network mode to infra. Leave the encryption as disabled for now.

In the network settings option below leave DHCP enable unchecked and enter a fixed IP address. It is critical that you keep the first 3 numbers of the address the same as those in your router's address. So if you router is at 192.168.1.1 then you need to pick address for your Lion in the 192.168.1.x format. You could leave it at .15, I think I chose .190, it just has to be a number less than 255 and cannot be .1. For the subnet use 255.255.255.0, for the default gateway use the IP address for your router, and for the DNS I used 8.8.8.8

Some routers may have an address in the 192.168.0.x range, just make sure you follow that format when choosing your IP address for the Lion.

Save your settings and you will find you are no longer connected to the GOLDEN-LION network, and in fact it no longer exists. Reconnect to your home network (eg Smith Home or whatever) and verify you have Internet access. Now navigate to your Lion using the IP address you just created, in my case 192.168.1.190, you should now have access to your controller while connected to your home network.

This is where it started to get tricky for me, clearly it would be less than ideal to leave your home network unprotected, so you want to re-enable the wifi security for your network. WPA2 is currently the most secure encryption you can get on a standard home network, so this is the one I wanted. I am trying to write this from memory as I am out of town and do not have access to my lion, so I cannot remember the exact options. Log into the wifi settings page on the lion, select your encryption type and enter the pass phrase. For WPA2 you want to select WPA2-PSK and the AES or CCMP option, do not select TKIP. As I said, I am trying to do this from a 6 month old memory of when I set mine up so this may not be exact. Save the settings for the Lion and then turn it off.

Now log into your router using a patch cable and re-enable network security, matching the same type and pass phrase you set on the Lion. Save and reboot your router, disconnect the patch cable. Turn on the Lion, and attempt to reconnect to your home wifi network, it should ask for a network key this time. You should now have access to the Internet and also your Lion (at its IP address) at the same time, behind a protected network. Great, huh?

It frustrates me that Mr Wang could not take the time to write a guide, or at least pay someone for doing it. This only took an hour or so, and I am trying to do this from memory. Maybe I should get paid?!

Next up, accessing the controller from the World Wide Web (like when you have to go to the grocery store as you've run out of beer)

ChrisH
02-10-2013, 01:57 AM
The document I linked from Rocks Stoker explains in a nutshell how to access the controller from the outside world, in a fairly rudimentary fashion. As it mentions the issue is that your ISP tends to change your IP address fairly frequently. If you follow the instructions given to set up port forwarding for your lion's IP address it would be possible to navigate to your modem's IP address and you could then access the lion from the outside world. It is fairly easy to figure out your current IP address by Googling "what is my IP". If you navigate to that address from an outside network, say on your smartphone using wireless data, you should be 'forwarded' to the Lion.

It would be rather unfortunate if in the middle of an overnight smoke, your ISP decided to change your IP address. The solution is what is called a dynamic DNS service. There are multiple companies that offer these services, and they start at $free and up. Depending on how much you are willing to pay, you could potentially have our own web address, such as www.bobsbbq.com, and navigating there would give you outside access to your smoker controller.

Personally, I chose a free service provided by no-ip.com that I am more than happy with. I have an address along the lines of mysmoker.no_ip.org (I don't want to give out my actual site to prevent anyone from ruining my food! A nice feature for the lion would be a password for the temp settings page.

You need to make sure that the dynamic dns service is supported by your router's firmware. Another reason for ddwrt, it had a bunch to chose from, whereas the old dlink that I was originally experimenting did not seem to support any dynamic dns that had a free service. Ho hum.

First things first, figure out which dynamic dns service is compatible with your router, and register for an account with that company. Easy, right?

Now, log into your router and access the Dynamic DNS page. Every router will be different (Mr Wang WAS right) however, they will all ask for the same basic information: the web address you just registered with your dynamic dns service (eg bbqbrethren.dyndns.com) and the IP address of your Lion (that one is easy, you must have typed it in at least 20 times now) and possibly also a port number, also easy 80.

Save your settings and reboot the router. Verify that you can no log into the Lion form an outside network using your new website.

This guide would probably be a whole lot better if I had access to the lion and my router, then I could do screenshots and everything! Anyway, I hope this is helpful to someone.

maxjax
02-15-2013, 12:16 PM
I have a Lion and inadvertently put it into DHCP mode and left it in AdHoc mode.:oops: Now I don't seem to have an easy way to access the setup page short of setting up a DHCP server on the Golden-Lion SSID.

Does anyone know if I can "reset to defaults" or know what the Golden-Lion IP address will default to after a DHCP timeout?

Thanks in advance.

thegizzard
02-15-2013, 12:23 PM
Yes. You can reset it and it will go back into ad hoc mode.

The instructions are on the manual page online. I found it with the wolf manual I believe.

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maxjax
02-27-2013, 07:43 PM
To reset you hold the three middle buttons down while turning on the power. it was in the Wolf manual.

Toronto
02-28-2013, 11:15 AM
It frustrates me that Mr Wang could not take the time to write a guide, or at least pay someone for doing it. This only took an hour or so, and I am trying to do this from memory. Maybe I should get paid?!

If you did your due diligence you would have known this before you purchased instead of after it. It sounds to me like you would be a lot better off buying a BBQ GURU setup instead or at the very least asked the right questions before you made your purchase. The kind of support/hand holding you are looking for BBQ GURU will offer but the trade off is you will also have to pay their prices. It appears to me their high pricing structure includes money for a tech support line.

woodpelletsmoker
02-28-2013, 07:50 PM
I am so sorry for lack services of the LION by myself.
I will not sell the LION anymore.
An American company will sell it in a different brand, and certainly different price.
My retail price of LION package is $228 plus shipping of $30 ,total $258
Suggested retail price will be $358.
You will have a professional IT man online or on phone to help you.

huntin smoke
02-28-2013, 09:05 PM
mine works but it was because I have a friend that has owned an internet company for 20 years. I owe him a really nice dinner for his trouble. You can check it out on my website. I also had to purchase a new modem since mine did not support ip forwarding.

http://bbq.wildfire.net/

woodpelletsmoker
02-28-2013, 09:51 PM
mine works but it was because I have a friend that has owned an internet company for 20 years. I owe him a really nice dinner for his trouble. You can check it out on my website. I also had to purchase a new modem since mine did not support ip forwarding.

http://bbq.wildfire.net/

Glad to hear the LION works.
Sorry to hear that you have to spend extra money on a nice dinner.
I should point out first of all that the buyer of the LION needs IT knowledge
Or the buyer needs to pay extra $100 for service.
It was my fault.
Can you keep http://bbq.wildfire.net/ alive a few weeks.
I must give you a free wGrill as compensation for my fault.

wGrill is a bbq thermometer with WIFI ,two probes.
wGrill is indeed a simplified model of LION, just lack of CONTROL but Keep feature of Monitor. You can access wGrill to Internet as LION.

huntin smoke
03-01-2013, 07:21 AM
Glad to hear the LION works.
Sorry to hear that you have to spend extra money on a nice dinner.
I should point out first of all that the buyer of the LION needs IT knowledge
Or the buyer needs to pay extra $100 for service.
It was my fault.
Can you keep http://bbq.wildfire.net/ alive a few weeks.
I must give you a free wGrill as compensation for my fault.

wGrill is a bbq thermometer with WIFI ,two probes.
wGrill is indeed a simplified model of LION, just lack of CONTROL but Keep feature of Monitor. You can access wGrill to Internet as LION.

That sounds great. I will keep it up and running for a couple of weeks. The wgrill sounds interesting. Let me know what you need to know so you can send it to me. Thanks

woodpelletsmoker
03-01-2013, 08:21 AM
wGrill will be ready around 10th of March, and I will send to you.
Hope you can access it to Internet and keep it alive a few weeks.

If possible,you post reviews on other BBQ forums, that will be a great help to me.

huntin smoke
03-01-2013, 08:24 AM
Sounds good thanks Wang

maxjax
03-01-2013, 04:08 PM
My Lion is working fine now. It is just what I expected.

Thanks Mr. Wang

woodpelletsmoker
03-01-2013, 06:58 PM
My Lion is working fine now. It is just what I expected.

Thanks Mr. Wang
Good to hear.
If you can post reviews, and hopefully how you link the LION to Internet, on other BBQ forums, I will give you a free wGrill too.
Photos and detailed smoking process are preferred

huntin smoke
03-02-2013, 10:31 AM
Mine is up and I am cooking a brisket today and a rack of baby back ribs. Check it out.

http://bbq.wildfire.net

SPClone
03-09-2013, 01:42 PM
I had an old Wii game power supply that I use for my Lion controller. It works great, 12 volts and enough amps.

Gr8adventure
03-27-2013, 10:13 PM
Its been a while since I've posted here, I've been extremely busy...

Besides a led acid battery has anyone found a Li battery that actually works. I had the same problem as the OP with the battery I purchased from China. However, I could never get even a partial refund from the seller.

I'm working with Wang right now trying to get my Tiger running again for some reason both probes appear to need replacement. I sure wish mine controller came in the new better looking case.

I just purchased a Vision Classic Kamado from Costco this weekend so I'm going to have to purchase an adapter for it as well. If I continue to have as much difficulty with figuring out how to work the controller with Kamado I'm likely to offer the Tiger for cheap and buy a different controller. Possibly something idiot proof like the Pitmaster IQ, I ask Wang about trading the unit for is DOG, but I don't want to wait 3 weeks for it to arrive.

woodpelletsmoker
03-28-2013, 08:33 AM
If you are sure it is fault of probes, I can send you probe.
The probe can withstand 450+ F.
Someone also burnt the probe as he put probe in smoker and used manual mode.
When manual mode, with a 50 CFM fan, the pit can easily reaches to 600F.
Tiger is as simple as DOG to program.
Say, you want to keep pit at 225F, and meat at 140F,
just set this way:
SC1=225 (F)
TC1=9999 (minute)
Al1=215 (low temp alarm)
AH1=235 (high temp alarm)
SC2=0 (disable other temperature stages)
P1=140 (F)
T1=9999( minute)
P2= 140 (F)
P3=225 (F)

Or
you want to keep pit at 180F for 2 hours, and then rises to 225F, meat at 140F for 3 hours, and then lower to 120 F as keeping temp.
just set this way:
SC1=180(F)
TC1=120 (minute)
Al1=170(low temp alarm)
AH1=190 (high temp alarm)
SC2=225(F)
TC2=9999 (minute)
Al2=215(low temp alarm)
AH2=235 (high temp alarm)
SC3=0

P1=140 (F)
T1=180( minute)
P2= 120 (F)
P3=225 (F)


Now there is special mailing service between China and U.S., Australia, and U.K. which usually takes 1 to 2 weeks. If you live in Los Angeles, Sydney, London, it may take 1 week. If you live in remote island, it may take 2 or even 3 weeks

Gr8adventure
03-28-2013, 08:48 AM
If you are sure it is fault of probes, I can send you probe.
The probe can withstand 450+ F.
Someone also burnt the probe as he put probe in smoker and used manual mode.
When manual mode, with a 50 CFM fan, the pit can easily reaches to 600F.
Tiger is as simple as DOG to program.
Say, you want to keep pit at 225F, and meat at 140F,
just set this way:
SC1=225 (F)
TC1=9999 (minute)
Al1=215 (low temp alarm)
AH1=235 (high temp alarm)
SC2=0 (disable other temperature stages)
P1=140 (F)
T1=9999( minute)
P2= 140 (F)
P3=225 (F)

Or
you want to keep pit at 180F for 2 hours, and then rises to 225F, meat at 140F for 3 hours, and then lower to 120 F as keeping temp.
just set this way:
SC1=180(F)
TC1=120 (minute)
Al1=170(low temp alarm)
AH1=190 (high temp alarm)
SC2=225(F)
TC2=9999 (minute)
Al2=215(low temp alarm)
AH2=235 (high temp alarm)
SC3=0

P1=140 (F)
T1=180( minute)
P2= 120 (F)
P3=225 (F)


Now there is special mailing service between China and U.S., Australia, and U.K. which usually takes 1 to 2 weeks. If you live in Los Angeles, Sydney, London, it may take 1 week. If you live in remote island, it may take 2 or even 3 weeks

Thank you for all that information. By the way I emailed pictures to you as requested, but have not received a reply. I live in Elk Grove, California. which is in Sacramento County.

Sacramento is the Capitol City of California, so its definitely not a island, but I can still hardly understand how Sacramento ever got to be the Capitol. Sacramento is probably the worst place for a State Capital in the entire U.S..

Please reply to my email so I know you received it and what you think.

keithbc
03-29-2013, 09:58 AM
Got my Tiger yesterday, been running my uds all day to see how it performs. My pity temp is set at 110 deg c but the temp remains at about 119-120, what i dont understand is why the fan continues to run even thought the temp is higher than the set temp. I would think it would stop blowing Until the temp dropped? Any help or comments appreciated.

woodpelletsmoker
03-29-2013, 10:27 AM
PID is smart enough to run longer time or stop earlier instead of simply on/off
Leave it as it is and do not disturb.
It will learn your specific application and will get stable after "learning period"

For advanced user, you can tune parameter of P,I, D so that the "learning period" can be shortened

huntin smoke
04-24-2013, 06:56 PM
Glad to hear the LION works.
Sorry to hear that you have to spend extra money on a nice dinner.
I should point out first of all that the buyer of the LION needs IT knowledge
Or the buyer needs to pay extra $100 for service.
It was my fault.
Can you keep http://bbq.wildfire.net/ alive a few weeks.
I must give you a free wGrill as compensation for my fault.

wGrill is a bbq thermometer with WIFI ,two probes.
wGrill is indeed a simplified model of LION, just lack of CONTROL but Keep feature of Monitor. You can access wGrill to Internet as LION.

Wang,
Let me know if you can still send me the Wgrill now that is it out. Thanks Huntin Smoke

woodpelletsmoker
04-24-2013, 07:28 PM
Wang,
Let me know if you can still send me the Wgrill now that is it out. Thanks Huntin Smoke

yes I will send you a wGrill. please check your PM

chiefsr
05-04-2013, 10:10 AM
With the values set exactly as outlined above an my pit probe clipped to the top grate of the WSM, I have Pit: 209 and SV1 90 showing on the screen. I assume SV1 would be the value set at SC1 (225F). What am I missing? What is SV1?

Toronto
05-04-2013, 11:03 AM
SV1 is your display input, this is where you would set your desired value.

SC1 is the target temp for probe 1.

Mark R
05-13-2013, 07:30 PM
You are correct about the manual. I started it and then got hung up trying to get my Windows 7 PC to connect to an Ad Hoc network. Apparently Windows 7 does not like Ad Hoc networks.

Anyway, that got me distracted. I can finish documenting the setup using images from Ubuntu Laptop, no problem. So I will get to it this weekend.
Gizzard, any chance of seeing that manual?

On edit, I got it but thanks!!

Thanks
Mark

JboneJR
05-14-2013, 09:25 PM
Hello I have learned so much from reading everything on this site. I just used my Golden Tiger for the first time on Sunday.I was amazed how well it worked. I installed it on a 2x2x2 firebox, with a 250 gallon tank cooking chamber. I saw somewhere about adjusting the backlight on the wireless remote?? Thanks

Wreched75
06-16-2013, 07:07 PM
Hello My Fellow BBqers!!!!!

So I wont point out the obvious on why I am posting here I am very very interested in this Golden Lion ATC. Yes there is Aubur, stoker and pitmaster IQ. But this, this is very very intersting also the price point is amazing!! Given what I have read through this forum and what Gizzard had explaind about once you get this up and running correctly it offers the same if not better features than digidx2. Here is what my rig is (or what I am going to purchase soon) Weber OTG, the reason the kettle because id like to do both grill and smoke at the same time. Now the questions

1.) I know that there was a Ramp down feature in the digidx2 and I have read a little here that this can acutally do that as well?

2.) Is there an specail adapter I can user for the weber kettle?

3.) Setup, Id like to just make it KISS but given the circumstances this is acceptable, id like to be cooking low and slow, from over nice cooks of brisket, and butts and a few hours for some ribs. Just want to almost set it and forget it. From reading the above I read about instructions that were suppose to come out were they ever made?

4.) Power, i noticed there that there is battery setup while browsing this forum? Is there no power supply for this?

5.) Is this product reliable enough to do what it is is set out to do or will i regret the purchase?

Thanks for all the help guys and sorry for the long and drawn out questions. I just want to be sure that with making this purchase I will be getting a product that lives up to what it is meant to do. Thanks again in advance.

woodpelletsmoker
06-16-2013, 08:39 PM
We are redesigning the LION.
New LION will have WIFI and Cat5.
You can control LION by laptop or smartphone directly.
Or you can access the LION to Internet by CAT5 to Router.
Nothing setup is needed while you can control it from Internet worldwide.
Simply plug and play!

1.fan adapter for Weber is type D.
2.Power adapter is included
3.yes ramp down of 4 temperature stages, best in the market
4. Earlier buyers met more quality problem. About 5% buyers in recent 2 years met quality issue too. Most burnt the probe. very few of controller itself. But I will always exchange for a new piece for any quality issue.

doramon
06-18-2013, 09:06 AM
when would it be ready? thanks

woodpelletsmoker
06-18-2013, 08:18 PM
prototype is expected earlier August. Commercial model in Sept

sirach38
06-26-2013, 12:38 PM
I'm looking forward to the new redesign of the Lion for my Akorn.