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Sawdustguy
10-16-2005, 08:00 PM
As you can see from my signature our BBQ team has a Lang smoker. We are looking for a charcoal grill to accompany the Lang when going to competitions. We will use the grill to cook chicken thighs and of course feed ourselves. We are looking for a grill that is heavy duty and durable, does not weigh a ton, won't break the bank (<$500) and can cook 24 chicken thighs. Any suggestions?

BBQchef33
10-16-2005, 08:04 PM
hate to state the obvious, but why not a 22 inch kettle?

Solidkick
10-16-2005, 08:10 PM
I bought for the team a 30" Walmart brand kettle. Put a Spicewine Thermometer in the lid, and that's what we use for competition.

I own at home a Kingsford barrel type cooker that was made by, I think, Masterbuilt. It does a very nice job, but would take 2 people to handle, and a truck.

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2097515

It has three separate cooking grates, which are removable. I usually offset cook with one grate out and build the fire on that end. The test chicken I fixed this weekend that the pictures are in another thread was fixed in the Kingsford grill.

Sawdustguy
10-16-2005, 09:11 PM
Yup, I haven't had anthing but a weber kettle grill for a very long time. My present weber is just about ready to be replaced after 15 years so I figured maybe something better came out since. I have found a couple of neet charcoal grills but for the price and convienence, it's tuff to beat the weber kettle grill especially since I will be dragging it to competitions. For $150 the weber 22 1/2" one touch gold is my choice. If I was choosing a new funky grill just for the back yard and wanted to spend more money I would have choosen the Babecook Leader (http://www.barbecook.com/v2/products/bbqdetail.asp?lg=EN&bbq=223875000&aantal=0) which has a build in chimney and extinguisher. Cool grill but too, too expensive.

The_Kapn
10-16-2005, 09:24 PM
hate to state the obvious, but why not a 22 inch kettle?
Obvious ditto on the Weber :grin:

TIM

parrothead
10-17-2005, 07:19 AM
I use a weber kettle at comp. Wouldn't have anything else.

BrooklynQ
10-17-2005, 10:05 AM
We are looking for a grill that is heavy duty and durable, and can cook 24 chicken thighs. Any suggestions?

I don't think a Kettle can cook 24 chicken thighs at one time. You'll probably need something bigger or two kettles.

jt
10-17-2005, 10:18 AM
Kick's is about a 28" inch or something like that so it should handle that many. It's got a flip-up grate to add coals, etc. Uniflame brand or something like that.

BBQchef33
10-17-2005, 10:43 AM
ive done almost 2 family packs of thighs on the kettle, and thats alot more than ya need for a competition. Weber also has the Ranch Kettle. Its something like 36 inchs across. With that u can do 2 family packs indirect.! Saw it at Fortunoffs backyard store. Its a thiing of beauty.

http://www.weber.com/bbq/pub/grill/2005/charcoal/cg_sg_ktl.aspx

The_Kapn
10-17-2005, 10:51 AM
The Lang 84 cooks up championship Chicken just fine.
Kevin (HomeBBQ) has pretty well dominated the SE with his 84 and turns out killer chickie on it.
You might want to just use the Lang for chickie and get an kettle for feeding your team, if needed.
Would make life even simpler.:wink:
FWIW

TIM

jt
10-17-2005, 10:55 AM
ive done almost 2 family packs of thighs on the kettle, and thats alot more than ya need for a competition. Weber also has the Ranch Kettle. Its something like 36 inchs across. With that u can do 2 family packs indirect.! Saw it at Fortunoffs backyard store. Its a thiing of beauty.

http://www.weber.com/bbq/pub/grill/2005/charcoal/cg_sg_ktl.aspx
I've seen this one too. Very nice.

I saw a pickup leaving the football game a couple weeks ago that had something like this - took up quite a bit of the truck bed! I think it would be great for those times you need a lot of capacity. Wish I'd done this instead of the gas grill!

parrothead
10-17-2005, 11:03 AM
I don't think a Kettle can cook 24 chicken thighs at one time. You'll probably need something bigger or two kettles.

I start em off in the WSM, then transfer the best ones over to the kettle.

Jeff_in_KC
10-17-2005, 11:50 AM
I start em off in the WSM, then transfer the best ones over to the kettle.

I do just the opposite... start 'em off on the kettle (with cherry) then to the smoker (but sealed to steam 'em).

brdbbq
10-17-2005, 11:51 AM
I do just the opposite... start 'em off on the kettle (with cherry) then to the smoker (but sealed to steam 'em).

How does one SEAL a smoker ?

Sawdustguy
10-17-2005, 01:08 PM
I think what Jeff is trying to say is, he puts the thighs in an aluminum pan, fills it with BBQ sauce and covers the pan with aluminum foil and then puts it in the smoker. The effect he is looking for is for the chicken to steam in the bbq sauce. I have tried it and it works. while the chicken is steaming in the bbq sauce the skin tenderizes so it is easy to bite through.

Sawdustguy
10-17-2005, 09:23 PM
Gents,

I pulled the trigger in a Chargriller Super Pro Grill. It has 580 sq" of main grill space which will be plenty of grill space for the thighs. It's light to lift up and throw on the truck, has plenty of grill space and because it will be used for competitions only it should last a long time. Other than the chicken, we will feed ourselves with it by cooking fatties, kielbasa, burgers etc. Lowes had it for $119, so it didn't break the bank. Thanks for the guidance guys.

Jeff_in_KC
10-18-2005, 07:52 AM
I might just be over-attentive to this but in case you ever find yourself on a tight schedule at comps, I'd buy a second cooking grate for it if you can find one. That way, if need be, you can just slap a clean one onto your grill for contest chicken and clean up your grate you cooked dinner on when you get home. My biggest annoyance so far has been cleaning up stuff from Friday night dinner and get things back clean again for contest cooking. I HATE cleaning cooking grates with a passion. If I had unlimited finances for contest expenses, the first damned thing I'd do would be to buy a supply of cooking grates and treat 'em as disposable! I hate cleaning them that much.

parrothead
10-18-2005, 08:04 AM
I don't clean them. Just get everything hot and knock the chunks off. A wadded up piece of used foil does wonderful for this.

Kevin
10-18-2005, 08:08 AM
Yep, what Greg said. The Chargriller has 4 cast iron grates. Keep em oiled and cleanup is a snap.

chad
10-18-2005, 08:12 AM
Wire brush and a spray bottle works, too. Get it while it's hot! I do this with my gasser before I shut down - the residual heat dries the grates, too.

My WMS grates just go in the wash tub to soak and clean up easily. The Kingfisher, when at home, gets a shot from the hose spray nozzle while still hot - most of the gunk comes right off and then I hit the grates with the wire brush when eveything is heating up for the next cook session.

Sawdustguy
10-18-2005, 09:33 AM
I done the same as Greg in the past with the aluminum foil. It works great but I plan to season the heck out of those cast iron grates so hopefully it won't be a problem (famous last words):tongue: :biggrin:

Jeff_in_KC
10-18-2005, 01:58 PM
I guess I really am a bit more obscessed with my grates than most others. :roll: I will mainly knock off the "gunk" with a brush at home but before contests, I have my grates nearly shining on the WSM and the Weber. My porcelain coated grates on the BSKD are completely grease-free. I suppose I'm just afraid of anyone ever questionning the cleanliness of my equipment! Maybe I'll back off on that next season.

voodoobbqIL
10-18-2005, 04:49 PM
If you really want to do a number on the grates, put them in your oven on the self cleaning cycle. That will get plenty hot and take off the nasty stuff then reoil them wiht some canola and grill away.

VitaminQ
10-19-2005, 07:37 AM
I've had pretty good luck spraying my grates and water pan down with oven cleaner, then tying them up in a garbage bag for a day or two. If I have time, I take 'em to the car wash and hit 'em with the high pressure spray. Garden hose does a pretty good job, too.

Jeff_in_KC
10-19-2005, 08:24 AM
If you really want to do a number on the grates, put them in your oven on the self cleaning cycle. That will get plenty hot and take off the nasty stuff then reoil them wiht some canola and grill away.

Kevin, that's a great idea... will it work on the coated (porcelain I believe) grates on my BSKD or will it possibly damage the coatings?

Shohn, I've used oven cleaner on 'em before too but never thought to seal in a garbage bag for a couple of days. One thing I did at the last comp (and I don't ever plan to NOTY do it again: cover the water bowl with foil! It was awesome to peel it off, rinse and put it away! Zero scrubbing! :grin:

Sawdustguy
10-19-2005, 07:58 PM
You guys got me a little paranoid here so just so I don't get caught with my pants down at a contest I pulled the trigger on a second set of cast iron grates for the chargriller today. I will just both sets and never have to worry at a contest.

Sawdustguy
10-19-2005, 08:14 PM
They now make an attachment for the Chargriller that will allow you to mount it to a trailer hitch reciever. It looks like this:

http://www.2fatpolocksbbq.com/webimages/mount.jpg

I will then weld a 36" reciever tube to the Lang so that the grill will mount right to the trailer.

http://www.2fatpolocksbbq.com/webimages/tube.jpg


Of course this all hinges on me learning how to weld. Any welders out there?:wink: :biggrin:

VitaminQ
10-20-2005, 07:27 AM
One thing I did at the last comp (and I don't ever plan to NOTY do it again: cover the water bowl with foil! It was awesome to peel it off, rinse and put it away! Zero scrubbing! :grin:

I'm glad that worked for you . . .I can't seem to figure it out for some reason :confused: The last time I tried it, I got water between the foil and the pan, and said water began wicking up the side and over into the fire bowl. I had an interesting five minutes there when I was figuring out how to remove the foil without completely putting out the fire!

Jeff_in_KC
10-20-2005, 08:07 AM
They now make an attachment for the Chargriller that will allow you to mount it to a trailer hitch reciever. It looks like this:

http://www.2fatpolocksbbq.com/webimages/mount.jpg

I will then weld a 36" reciever tube to the Lang so that the grill will mount right to the trailer.

http://www.2fatpolocksbbq.com/webimages/tube.jpg


Of course this all hinges on me learning how to weld. Any welders out there?:wink: :biggrin:

God forbid there's any kind of gas leak! :shock:

Jeff_in_KC
10-20-2005, 08:10 AM
I'm glad that worked for you . . .I can't seem to figure it out for some reason :confused: The last time I tried it, I got water between the foil and the pan, and said water began wicking up the side and over into the fire bowl. I had an interesting five minutes there when I was figuring out how to remove the foil without completely putting out the fire!

I did this on my BSKD so that wasn't an issue. To be honest, I don't recall it happening anyway. What smoker did this happen in? Maybe it was just a lot closer to the fire than in what I used. I'm trying it on my WSM this weekend.

Sawdustguy
10-20-2005, 09:36 AM
God forbid there's any kind of gas leak! :shock:

No problem. I guess we would have to let it burn a bit though to get rid of that petroleum taste.:eek: :tongue: :biggrin:

in2que
10-20-2005, 09:58 AM
I'm glad that worked for you . . .I can't seem to figure it out for some reason :confused: The last time I tried it, I got water between the foil and the pan, and said water began wicking up the side and over into the fire bowl. I had an interesting five minutes there when I was figuring out how to remove the foil without completely putting out the fire!

Were you using the bigger Brinkmann water pan or the stock WSM? I have read where that happens but I never had an issue with it. I can't cover the whole thing with one piece so some water does get under the foil but not too much. Makes me nervous that I may be on borrowed time by foiling it all the time.

I agree with using the spray on oven cleaner on the grills. That stuff works like magic!