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BABYGOTBUTT
06-27-2012, 06:50 AM
We were in the middle of cutting a brisket and boxing the meat with about 2 min to turn-in. Guy walks right up to me and starts asking all sorts of questions. Doesn't wait for an answer just starts asking questions. I POLITELY told him I was busy and could not talk thinking he was one of the many people that attended the DC BBQ Battle this past weekend. He then says, "okay, yeah, I just turn our brisket in". Are you kidding me? wondering if anybody else has had another team member come up to you and start talking BBQ as you are getting a box together during the last minutes?

Lake Dogs
06-27-2012, 08:00 AM
Possibly a half-asleep runner, or a cook with no sleep... Someone obviously not thinking, and not paying any attention whatsoever.

nthole
06-27-2012, 08:11 AM
I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they didn't see the box and were just wanting to chat post turn-ins and see how things went. After the last turn-in I know we usually check-in with some of our fellow teams. That said I'm always careful to make sure they are done first :grin:.

dmprantz
06-27-2012, 08:46 AM
There are certainly ignorant jerks out there. I've had it happen to me. First thing I ever ask a team if it's in the window is "Are you finished with your turn in?"

dmp

boogiesnap
06-27-2012, 09:12 AM
stangers wandering in, yes. a fellow competitor, no.

as far as i'm concerned, other than a good luck while walking by, no talky between like 11A and 1:35P.

Bigdog
06-27-2012, 09:56 AM
I vote for ignorant but probably because he just doesn't know better. Most of us here know the rules but many don't. The are also a lot of folks that are so focused on themselves they don't take others into consideration.:tsk:

Shiz-Nit
06-27-2012, 10:05 AM
Maybe when he said "we"... Maybe he was just a guest and NOT actually a official team member.

But still either way I would have been upset as rightfully you should have been also.

The Cosmic Pig
06-27-2012, 11:16 AM
wondering if anybody else has had another team member come up to you and start talking BBQ as you are getting a box together during the last minutes?

I had this happen to me two weeks ago, and to beat all it was my ex team member! We had done this comp together for five years in a row - fully sponsored by my company - but I didn't ask him to help this time because this was his standard MO at comps; no focus on winning, just socializing. :tsk:

Just Pulin' Pork
06-27-2012, 11:24 AM
We had a lady from the Chamber of Commerce come in our sport while we were working on our Rib turn and when we told her that we were busy and could not talk. She kept talking and finally after telling her again we were busy and we are in the middle of turn ins she got pissed and mumbled something and walked away. We were not trying to be jerks but we were busy. It was a small town contest and I get they want to promote their town but not during turn ins!

Jacked UP BBQ
06-27-2012, 11:38 AM
I talk to people all the time while I am boxing, its not a big deal to me. I understand that some people what their privacy and concentration. You should respect that of other teams though. I think he was a friendly uneducated competitor thats all, I am sure there was no harm intended.

Wrench_H
06-27-2012, 11:55 AM
I tend to agree with Lake Dogs that it was probably a runner that didn't know any better. I bring friends with me to comps to help out with things like running, and some of them probably wouldn't know better and are just being social. That being said, I have let them know that turn in times isn't the time for that.

BABYGOTBUTT
06-27-2012, 12:47 PM
I tend to agree with Lake Dogs that it was probably a runner that didn't know any better. I bring friends with me to comps to help out with things like running, and some of them probably wouldn't know better and are just being social. That being said, I have let them know that turn in times isn't the time for that.

I'll go with just being ignorant.

JayAre
06-27-2012, 02:26 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shigging

fnbish
06-27-2012, 03:07 PM
I finally bought walls for my canopy to keep this from happening if my spot is in a high traffic place.

Muzzlebrake
06-27-2012, 04:36 PM
I talk to people all the time while I am boxing, its not a big deal to me. I understand that some people what their privacy and concentration. You should respect that of other teams though. I think he was a friendly uneducated competitor thats all, I am sure there was no harm intended.

Yelling "F-You" and "your mother!" doesn't count as talking to people all the time.

HarleyGirl14226
06-27-2012, 04:42 PM
Yelling "F-You" and "your mother!" doesn't count as talking to people all the time.

So you did hear me during our rib turn in on Saturday?!

I didn't realize my voice carried that far - Wow. :biggrin1: Of course I was actually yelling something closer to "This is F***ed", and "We're F****ed" - with Kevin telling me to keep it down, there were kids and Grandmothers walking by...

(Sorry - couldn't help myself - hijack off)

LGHT
06-27-2012, 04:51 PM
I think it was pretty ignorant on your part. A fellow cook just making small talk tries to be friendly and probably could have helped you with your box and you blow him off like he's some spectator. I mean is it his fault your running late and are only slicing your meat with 2 min on the clock. Maybe if you where cool about it he could have given you a hand.

Bourbon Barrel BBQ
06-27-2012, 05:14 PM
I think it was pretty ignorant on your part. A fellow cook just making small talk tries to be friendly and probably could have helped you with your box and you blow him off like he's some spectator. I mean is it his fault your running late and are only slicing your meat with 2 min on the clock. Maybe if you where cool about it he could have given you a hand.

Uh no.

Red Valley BBQ
06-27-2012, 05:25 PM
I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they didn't see the box and were just wanting to chat post turn-ins and see how things went. After the last turn-in I know we usually check-in with some of our fellow teams.

Usually I would agree with you, but this contest was different than most. On saturday the KCBS turn-ins were chicken and brisket. But there were two turn-ins AFTER brisket (lamb and potato salad). So, I really have to question the reasoning for stopping at another teams site at that time.

AZScott
06-27-2012, 05:27 PM
I think it was pretty ignorant on your part. A fellow cook just making small talk tries to be friendly and probably could have helped you with your box and you blow him off like he's some spectator. I mean is it his fault your running late and are only slicing your meat with 2 min on the clock. Maybe if you where cool about it he could have given you a hand.

Huh? During turn in's I tend to get testy if another team comes into my site to shoot the breeze while I'm hunched over my box or meat. That is not the time. This is a competition, not a backyard BBQ where we're all chilling out drinking margaritas and eating seven layer dip. That's Friday night. The same could be said for when a team is prepping their meat or "working". Many teams spend countless hours and untold amounts of money to get their processes, techniques, tricks, box presentations, seasonings and sauces exactly where they want them. People should respect that even though they may have zero intention of shigging.

butt head
06-27-2012, 05:51 PM
Yelling "F-You" and "your mother!" doesn't count as talking to people all the time.
since when :wacko:

LGHT
06-27-2012, 05:54 PM
If you don't want to be bothered by other "friendly" cooks just buy some walls for your ez-up so your not bothered. Getting mad at a fellow cook for being friendly and not knowing your a jerk ahead of time is just ignorant plan and simple.

FYI not all cooks get "testy" some are surprisingly friendly and helpful.

Bourbon Barrel BBQ
06-27-2012, 06:04 PM
If you don't want to be bothered by other "friendly" cooks just buy some walls for your ez-up so your not bothered. Getting mad at a fellow cook for being friendly and not knowing your a jerk ahead of time is just ignorant plan and simple.

FYI not all cooks get "testy" some are surprisingly friendly and helpful.


Or you could just learn some common sense on when not to wander into a fellow competitors campsite.

AZScott
06-27-2012, 06:18 PM
If you don't want to be bothered by other "friendly" cooks just buy some walls for your ez-up so your not bothered. Getting mad at a fellow cook for being friendly and not knowing your a jerk ahead of time is just ignorant plan and simple.

FYI not all cooks get "testy" some are surprisingly friendly and helpful.

Man, I never knew that a team that didn't want to hang out with other cooks while assembling their turn in box during the 10 minute window makes them a jerk. I guess I'm a jerk for 40 minutes at every comp. :becky:

Contracted Cookers
06-27-2012, 06:28 PM
I just spent 700.00 to feed 6 people. I don't need to be bothered while I make their plate

dmprantz
06-27-2012, 06:36 PM
What sucks is when people find an opening in the your sidewalls (three up) to find a way to harrass you during turn ins.

BABYGOTBUTT
06-27-2012, 06:42 PM
I think it was pretty ignorant on your part. A fellow cook just making small talk tries to be friendly and probably could have helped you with your box and you blow him off like he's some spectator. I mean is it his fault your running late and are only slicing your meat with 2 min on the clock. Maybe if you where cool about it he could have given you a hand.

Ignorant? Ingnorant?.....Did you read my post? I Politely told him I could not talk at that moment. I was cutting the meat on schedule....as most people will attest to, you don't bother teams while they are boxing. You make quite a few assumptions in your post that are incorrect. I did not blow him off nor was I running late. Maybe I can come help you with your box when you are boxing without ever having met you. Not.

DawgPhan
06-27-2012, 07:17 PM
Did you have sides up on your tent? Or just out in the open?

If you were just out in the open, maybe you were inviting some dialog...the ole "look what she was wearing" defense.

probably not worth posting on the internet about, but makes a great friday night story to tell at the next contest.

fnbish
06-27-2012, 07:32 PM
If you don't want to be bothered by other "friendly" cooks just buy some walls for your ez-up so your not bothered. Getting mad at a fellow cook for being friendly and not knowing your a jerk ahead of time is just ignorant plan and simple.

FYI not all cooks get "testy" some are surprisingly friendly and helpful.

Oh wait......are you serious here?? I'm thinking this is just messing around, because if not someone else isn't super friendly either :becky:. I don't think the initial post was in that bad of taste. Made sense to me without getting all hot and bothered.

butt head
06-27-2012, 07:51 PM
If you don't want to be bothered by other "friendly" cooks just buy some walls for your ez-up so your not bothered. Getting mad at a fellow cook for being friendly and not knowing your a jerk ahead of time is just ignorant plan and simple.

FYI not all cooks get "testy" some are surprisingly friendly and helpful.
:jaw:

Contracted Cookers
06-27-2012, 07:58 PM
Did you have sides up on your tent? Or just out in the open?

If you were just out in the open, maybe you were inviting some dialog...the ole "look what she was wearing" defense.

probably not worth posting on the internet about, but makes a great friday night story to tell at the next contest.
you and lght need to quit you both know it was dumb

Cue's Your Daddy
06-27-2012, 09:32 PM
I think you don't really mean bad sportsmanship. I don't think what they were doing. Ignorant yes. Dumb. Not sure. But probably meant no harm.

BBQchef33
06-27-2012, 09:41 PM
I think it was pretty ignorant on your part. A fellow cook just making small talk tries to be friendly and probably could have helped you with your box and you blow him off like he's some spectator. I mean is it his fault your running late and are only slicing your meat with 2 min on the clock. Maybe if you where cool about it he could have given you a hand.

If you don't want to be bothered by other "friendly" cooks just buy some walls for your ez-up so your not bothered. Getting mad at a fellow cook for being friendly and not knowing your a jerk ahead of time is just ignorant plan and simple.


:frusty::frusty:

Bentley
06-27-2012, 09:47 PM
Wow LGHT..I digress.

I think you were close BABYGOTBUTT when you thought ignorant...

Cue's Your Daddy
06-27-2012, 09:49 PM
I do it to Poobah all the time, and he thinks I am a jerk...

HI SACCO

BBQchef33
06-27-2012, 09:51 PM
I do it to Poobah all the time, and he thinks I am a jerk...

HI SACCO


Thinks?


u removed all doubt years ago.. :mrgreen:

Cue's Your Daddy
06-27-2012, 10:00 PM
As the great Sledneck would say.... PFFFTTT.

BBQchef33
06-27-2012, 10:24 PM
i say pffft... he says

yawn....

Lippy
06-28-2012, 06:02 AM
We had a lady walk in our tent as we were doing our brisket box and grabbed a slice and said "Ooooh samples!" We just closed the box and turned it in.

Bourbon Barrel BBQ
06-28-2012, 07:57 AM
We had a lady walk in our tent as we were doing our brisket box and grabbed a slice and said "Ooooh samples!" We just closed the box and turned it in.

I had a judge walk up to my tent and stick his finger in my injection as I was prepping butts and taste it.

Lippy
06-28-2012, 08:05 AM
I had a judge walk up to my tent and stick his finger in my injection as I was prepping butts and taste it.

Wow! It would've been hard not to punch him in the throat.

Bourbon Barrel BBQ
06-28-2012, 08:29 AM
Wow! It would've been hard not to punch him in the throat.

I didn't know he was a judge at the time and I thought he was with some good friends of ours (turns out he wasn't). I didn't want to punch their friend. My teammate was surprised with my self restraint.

JD McGee
06-28-2012, 09:18 AM
We were in the middle of cutting a brisket and boxing the meat with about 2 min to turn-in. Guy walks right up to me and starts asking all sorts of questions. Doesn't wait for an answer just starts asking questions. I POLITELY told him I was busy and could not talk thinking he was one of the many people that attended the DC BBQ Battle this past weekend. He then says, "okay, yeah, I just turn our brisket in". Are you kidding me? wondering if anybody else has had another team member come up to you and start talking BBQ as you are getting a box together during the last minutes?

Yep...last weekend. I was prepping my pork turn in when another team member walked in. I looked up and said "not a good time to visit...I'm in the middle of my turn in box"...to which he/she replied..."I know...I wanted to see how the pros do it". Luckily for me my wife walked in just then and overheard the exchange...she promptly escorted them out of our site...:tsk: I guess I should be flattered to be considered a pro...:becky:

The Cosmic Pig
06-28-2012, 11:12 AM
It seems that too many well-meaning folks come to visit me at all the wrong times, also. Maybe a "do not disturb" sign would work for those high-stress times?

Jorge
06-28-2012, 11:39 AM
I think it was pretty ignorant on your part. A fellow cook just making small talk tries to be friendly and probably could have helped you with your box and you blow him off like he's some spectator. I mean is it his fault your running late and are only slicing your meat with 2 min on the clock. Maybe if you where cool about it he could have given you a hand.


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chickenchoker
06-28-2012, 12:09 PM
we always get walkers in. We deal with it in multiple ways. crank out obnoxious tunes during turn ins.... that usually keeps em out. we also situate the table that we do our turn ins at the back end of our enclosed tent. they would have to walk through 3 or 4 people just to get close enough to see whats goin on.

Podge
06-28-2012, 12:23 PM
I deal with people by locking my RV door ! :)

Trailhound
06-28-2012, 12:41 PM
AZScott I have never seen you being a "Jerk for 40 Minutes" I don't think you know how to.

INmitch
06-28-2012, 01:19 PM
I deal with people by locking my RV door ! :)

Note to self: At Madison make sure boxes are done in time to go beat on Podges RV before his are done....................Then go get a free sample of The Perry Bros brisket.:clap:

butt head
06-28-2012, 02:30 PM
i have a sign that say's beware of attack chef placed above my knives

shirknwrk
06-29-2012, 05:26 AM
Before I started reading this forum, I had no idea of the intensity of competition BBQ or the structure of events... Turn in times, the importance of box preparation, etc. Organizers and the media invite people to "come on down" First time I strolled through a competition, I was expecting food for sale or maybe samples (Like BGE's "Eggfests") While I never would have considered walking into someone's area, I could easily have made a nuisance of myself by asking questions if I had been there near turn in times. Perhaps organizers could help by posting polite "Don't bug the cooks between -- and --"

DawgPhan
06-29-2012, 08:04 AM
Before I started reading this forum, I had no idea of the intensity of competition BBQ or the structure of events... Turn in times, the importance of box preparation, etc. Organizers and the media invite people to "come on down" First time I strolled through a competition, I was expecting food for sale or maybe samples (Like BGE's "Eggfests") While I never would have considered walking into someone's area, I could easily have made a nuisance of myself by asking questions if I had been there near turn in times. Perhaps organizers could help by posting polite "Don't bug the cooks between -- and --"


dont worry some organizers do a really awful job of explaining what the expectations are to the public.

LGHT
06-29-2012, 12:10 PM
Not all cooks are like old female dogs looking to bite your leg if you get too close so don't get the wrong impression. Comps are about fun, food, drink and having a good time. Unfortunately some cooks get too wrapped up into the comp side and forget to have fun, but most are friendly and don't bite.

butt head
06-29-2012, 03:51 PM
Not all cooks are like old female dogs looking to bite your leg if you get too close so don't get the wrong impression. Comps are about fun, food, drink and having a good time. Unfortunately some cooks get too wrapped up into the comp side and forget to have fun, but most are friendly and don't bite.
:blah::blah::blah:

BABYGOTBUTT
06-29-2012, 04:00 PM
Not all cooks are like old female dogs looking to bite your leg if you get too close so don't get the wrong impression. Comps are about fun, food, drink and having a good time. Unfortunately some cooks get too wrapped up into the comp side and forget to have fun, but most are friendly and don't bite.

Unfortunately those who do, do and those that don't like to pretend they do. Absolutely comps are about having fun, otherwise those who do compete would not do it. but, at the moment of turn in, all focus should be on the box and that should be respected. I take it from your posts you are a judge and have not gone through the sleepless nights and endless work it takes to get to the moment of turn-in. Otherwise I think you would have a little empathy for the need not to be interrupted during boxing. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me.

Pappy Q
06-29-2012, 04:14 PM
Not all cooks are like old female dogs looking to bite your leg if you get too close so don't get the wrong impression. Comps are about fun, food, drink and having a good time. Unfortunately some cooks get too wrapped up into the comp side and forget to have fun, but most are friendly and don't bite.

I can't tell if your serious or just trying to stir the pot. Your welcome to your opinion but if you really think it's okay to do what you say.....all I can say is WOW! If you are an actual competitor (which I doubt) and your reason for competing is just to party, consider this - between entry fees, meat cost, supplies cost, travel expenses, time off work etc. I easily have a $1000 invested in a contest. I'm there to have a good time but if the intent was to party hard, I'd stay home and invite the friends over for a hell of a party at $1000. I won't come in your site at a contest and ruin your party so don't come into mine and ruin my cook.

BABYGOTBUTT
06-29-2012, 05:24 PM
:clap2:I can't tell if your serious or just trying to stir the pot. Your welcome to your opinion but if you really think it's okay to do what you say.....all I can say is WOW! If you are an actual competitor (which I doubt) and your reason for competing is just to party, consider this - between entry fees, meat cost, supplies cost, travel expenses, time off work etc. I easily have a $1000 invested in a contest. I'm there to have a good time but if the intent was to party hard, I'd stay home and invite the friends over for a hell of a party at $1000. I won't come in your site at a contest and ruin your party so don't come into mine and ruin my cook.

:clap2::clap2:

Smokin Mike
06-29-2012, 10:26 PM
I can't tell if your serious or just trying to stir the pot. Your welcome to your opinion but if you really think it's okay to do what you say.....all I can say is WOW! If you are an actual competitor (which I doubt) and your reason for competing is just to party, consider this - between entry fees, meat cost, supplies cost, travel expenses, time off work etc. I easily have a $1000 invested in a contest. I'm there to have a good time but if the intent was to party hard, I'd stay home and invite the friends over for a hell of a party at $1000. I won't come in your site at a contest and ruin your party so don't come into mine and ruin my cook.

Thank you Sir!, you explained it perfectly :clap:

CMALANGA
07-06-2012, 12:01 PM
I talk to people all the time while I am boxing, its not a big deal to me. I understand that some people what their privacy and concentration. You should respect that of other teams though. I think he was a friendly uneducated competitor thats all, I am sure there was no harm intended.

Of course it's not problem for you. You spend the night before turn-in in Atlantic City, show up 5 minutes before turn in and win the damn event. Envious? Yes, yes I am.:grin: