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BABYGOTBUTT
06-25-2012, 11:04 AM
We participated for the first time this weekend in the Safeway BBQ Battle. First off....It was a BLAST!!!! Met a lot of great people and with the exception of load-in, I thought it was run very smoothly. Okay...now for my dumb, embarrasing, stupid mistake..... I used Kale as a garnish for our rib turn-in box. This, as it turns out was very costly not only in the rib category but also in the National Pork Championship that was running concurrently with the KCBS. The Head judge walked up to me after the awards and told me that had we not gotten 1s for appearance for ribs we would have won the National Pork Competition. (ended up in fifth) We also would have been top 5 in the rib category. I am absoultly sick about it and have nobody to blame for not refamilarizing myself with the rules prior to doing the competition. I won't make that mistake again so live and learn I guess. Overall, though got a few calls and had a great time. Thanks to the organizers for all the hard work! John - (BABY-GOT-BUTT)

Florida Farmer
06-25-2012, 11:17 AM
Who won everthing John? I saw the results for the KCBS catagories on their website but was wondering about the others. I was entered but was unable to make it this past weekend. Congratulations on your finish....even with the kale.

Pigs on Fire
06-25-2012, 12:29 PM
I do not understand how teams get the 1's for the garnish.

The only (legal) garnish I have ever heard about includes green leafed or Iceberg lettuce and parsley. I've heard the rules permit cilantro but have never heard of anyone using it nor seen it.

I've only heard and/or read about teams getting the 1's for Kale, Red leaf lettuce, etc.

Why do people keep trying it?

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
06-25-2012, 01:46 PM
I do not understand how teams get the 1's for the garnish.

The only (legal) garnish I have ever heard about includes green leafed or Iceberg lettuce and parsley. I've heard the rules permit cilantro but have never heard of anyone using it nor seen it.

I've only heard and/or read about teams getting the 1's for Kale, Red leaf lettuce, etc.

Why do people keep trying it?

I thought that illegal garnish was a DQ as in no score, as in the box gets taken back to the team. have I been wrong (not the 1st time) all along?

BABYGOTBUTT
06-25-2012, 01:53 PM
Who won everthing John? I saw the results for the KCBS catagories on their website but was wondering about the others. I was entered but was unable to make it this past weekend. Congratulations on your finish....even with the kale.


DC Firefighters won it all.

BABYGOTBUTT
06-25-2012, 01:54 PM
I thought that illegal garnish was a DQ as in no score, as in the box gets taken back to the team. have I been wrong (not the 1st time) all along?


A DQ is all 1s. You do not lose your scores in Taste/Tenderness.

BABYGOTBUTT
06-25-2012, 01:55 PM
I do not understand how teams get the 1's for the garnish.

The only (legal) garnish I have ever heard about includes green leafed or Iceberg lettuce and parsley. I've heard the rules permit cilantro but have never heard of anyone using it nor seen it.

I've only heard and/or read about teams getting the 1's for Kale, Red leaf lettuce, etc.

Why do people keep trying it?

The only reason I tried it is because I ran out of parsley and did not know about Kale. like I said earlier......Dumb on my part!

BABYGOTBUTT
06-25-2012, 01:56 PM
Who won everthing John? I saw the results for the KCBS catagories on their website but was wondering about the others. I was entered but was unable to make it this past weekend. Congratulations on your finish....even with the kale.


The national pork championship I believe was won by Purple Porkers.

pigmaker23
06-25-2012, 02:01 PM
Purple Pork Masters ......:mod:



The national pork championship I believe was won by Purple Porkers.

motoeric
06-25-2012, 02:12 PM
I know that this is small consolation, but you can certainly be really proud of how well you cooked them.

Chalk it up as a lesson and be proud of your performance. It certainly bodes well for your next event.

Eric

mobow
06-25-2012, 02:14 PM
A score of one (1) is a disqualification and requires approval
by a Contest Rep. Grounds for disqualification: All judges
will give a one (1) in Appearance for unapproved garnish,
pooled sauce or less than 6 samples of meat. All judges
will give a one (1) in all criteria for sculptured meat, a
marked turn-in container, foreign object in the container,
incorrect meat. All judges not receiving a sample will give
a one (1) in all criteria.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
06-25-2012, 02:51 PM
youll get em next time!

Fornia
06-25-2012, 09:43 PM
Much easier to fix the garnish mistake than the taste and tenderness!

I'd take a lot of confidence in that.

Just curious if you took the CBJ Class? I know that stuck out to my friend and I when we took it before ever competing.

Sorry we didn't get to meet in DC this weekend. Glad to be home, following a shower and much needed sleep in my bed last night. Sure you guys feel the same.

Best Sauce too, right???

MAP
06-26-2012, 06:27 AM
Be proud of the finish, and learn from your mistake.

Fornia
06-26-2012, 02:03 PM
Wondering if any results will be posted for this event? I know where we placed, but would love to see the entire run. Yep,lost my scoring sheets they handed out. :(

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
06-26-2012, 02:29 PM
Wondering if any results will be posted for this event? I know where we placed, but would love to see the entire run. Yep,lost my scoring sheets they handed out. :(

here you go. they were on the KCBS website.


Safeway National Capital Barbecue Battle


STATE CHAMPIONSHIP

Washingtnn, DC
Starts: 06/23/2012
Ends: 06/24/2012
Website: http://www.bbqdc.com (http://www.bbqdc.com/)
KCBS Reps: DENNIS POLSON, JOHN G BUSCH

Prize Money: $16900.00
CBJ Percentage: 100%


Contact Information:
Doug Halo
Phone: 703-799-0523
dhalo001@aol.com (dhalo001@aol.com)


Contest Results: [View Printable (http://www.kcbs.us/results_print.php?id=3552)]

Grand Champion: Firefighting BBQ Team
Reserve Champion: Burning Hot Unknowns

Overall:
1. Firefighting BBQ Team - 675.4286
2. Burning Hot Unknowns - 672.5712
3. Smokin Triggers - 669.1428
4. Jack's Old South - 669.1420
5. Serial Griller - 666.2854
6. Psychedelic Smoke BBQ - 662.2856
7. Stubborn Bull BBQ - 661.1424
8. Cool Smoke - 655.4282
9. Pork Barrel BBQ - 646.8564
10. Walk the Swine - 645.1428
11. Virginia 'Q - 643.9996
12. Purple Pork Masters - 642.2854
13. Dizzy Pig - 639.4284
14. HCDC - 632.5712
15. Baby Got Butt - 631.4294
16. 901 Que - 629.1426
17. Tickled Pig BBQ - 626.8566
18. Low Budget BBQ - 622.2850
19. Myers Meats - 620.5710
20. Beerbecue - 616.5708
21. Lyin Pigs - 610.8568
22. Ernie's BBQ - 610.8566
23. DCQ - 610.2848
24. The Cheeseheads - 606.8564
25. Taste O'South - 603.4284
26. Soulfull Cue - 602.8574
27. Bootheel BBQ - 601.7138
28. Bones'BBQ(BiketotheBeach - 595.9998
29. 1 Bourbon,1 Scotch,1 Bee - 595.4284
30. Hog Bones BBQ - 590.2860
31. Old Towne Pit Crew - 584.5708
32. Old Glory - 579.4278
33. Road Crew BBQ - 567.9996
34. Ribs by Andy - 554.2858
35. Team Crockettfeld - 542.2856
36. 2 Rac of Ribs - 540.0002
37. DD Barbecue Cue'in It - 504.0004
38. Moe & Lou BBQ - 445.7142
39. The HISTORY Cooking Team - 167.4286


Chicken:
1. Serial Griller - 174.8574
2. 901 Que - 172.5714
3. Burning Hot Unknowns - 171.4284
4. Firefighting BBQ Team - 170.2856
5. Myers Meats - 169.7140
6. Virginia 'Q - 166.8570
7. Pork Barrel BBQ - 166.8570
8. Jack's Old South - 166.8568
9. DCQ - 165.1428
10. Hog Bones BBQ - 164.5716
11. Dizzy Pig - 164.0000
12. Stubborn Bull BBQ - 164.0000
13. Smokin Triggers - 164.0000
14. Baby Got Butt - 163.9998
15. Walk the Swine - 162.2858
16. Cool Smoke - 162.2856
17. Tickled Pig BBQ - 160.5712
18. Low Budget BBQ - 160.5712
19. Soulfull Cue - 160.0000
20. Psychedelic Smoke BBQ - 159.4282
21. Purple Pork Masters - 156.5712
22. Ernie's BBQ - 154.2858
23. Bones'BBQ(BiketotheBeach - 153.7140
24. HCDC - 151.9996
25. Road Crew BBQ - 148.0000
26. Lyin Pigs - 147.9998
27. Old Towne Pit Crew - 147.9998
28. Bootheel BBQ - 146.8568
29. 2 Rac of Ribs - 146.2860
30. Taste O'South - 146.2856
31. 1 Bourbon,1 Scotch,1 Bee - 146.2856
32. Beerbecue - 145.1428
33. The Cheeseheads - 142.8568
34. DD Barbecue Cue'in It - 140.5712
35. Team Crockettfeld - 140.0000
36. Old Glory - 135.4282
37. Ribs by Andy - 129.7144
38. Moe & Lou BBQ - 0.0000
39. The HISTORY Cooking Team - 0.0000


Ribs:
1. Burning Hot Unknowns - 177.7144
2. Psychedelic Smoke BBQ - 173.1430
3. Purple Pork Masters - 172.0002
4. Serial Griller - 167.4286
5. HCDC - 166.8572
6. Cool Smoke - 166.8572
7. Stubborn Bull BBQ - 165.7142
8. Firefighting BBQ Team - 163.4288
9. Beerbecue - 162.8570
10. Jack's Old South - 161.1426
11. 901 Que - 160.5716
12. The Cheeseheads - 160.5714
13. Tickled Pig BBQ - 160.0000
14. Dizzy Pig - 160.0000
15. Taste O'South - 159.4284
16. Smokin Triggers - 158.8572
17. Low Budget BBQ - 158.2856
18. Walk the Swine - 157.7142
19. Lyin Pigs - 157.1430
20. Virginia 'Q - 157.1430
21. Ernie's BBQ - 157.1426
22. Pork Barrel BBQ - 155.4286
23. Bootheel BBQ - 154.8572
24. Myers Meats - 154.8572
25. Old Towne Pit Crew - 152.5712
26. DCQ - 152.0000
27. Soulfull Cue - 151.4286
28. Moe & Lou BBQ - 151.4286
29. Old Glory - 150.8570
30. Bones'BBQ(BiketotheBeach - 150.2856
31. Hog Bones BBQ - 149.1430
32. Ribs by Andy - 145.7142
33. Baby Got Butt - 144.5726
34. 1 Bourbon,1 Scotch,1 Bee - 144.5716
35. Road Crew BBQ - 135.9998
36. 2 Rac of Ribs - 134.8570
37. Team Crockettfeld - 126.8570
38. DD Barbecue Cue'in It - 100.0008
39. The HISTORY Cooking Team - 0.0000


Pork:
1. Smokin Triggers - 171.4284
2. Firefighting BBQ Team - 170.8572
3. Jack's Old South - 167.9998
4. Burning Hot Unknowns - 166.8570
5. Walk the Swine - 165.7144
6. Baby Got Butt - 164.0000
7. Serial Griller - 163.4282
8. Tickled Pig BBQ - 162.2854
9. Stubborn Bull BBQ - 162.2854
10. Psychedelic Smoke BBQ - 161.7142
11. Myers Meats - 161.1426
12. Cool Smoke - 159.9998
13. Dizzy Pig - 159.4286
14. HCDC - 159.4284
15. Virginia 'Q - 158.2854
16. Pork Barrel BBQ - 158.2854
17. The Cheeseheads - 155.4286
18. 1 Bourbon,1 Scotch,1 Bee - 152.5712
19. 901 Que - 151.4284
20. Ernie's BBQ - 151.4284
21. Lyin Pigs - 151.4282
22. Purple Pork Masters - 150.8570
23. Low Budget BBQ - 150.8568
24. Taste O'South - 150.2858
25. Old Towne Pit Crew - 148.5714
26. Soulfull Cue - 148.0000
27. Bones'BBQ(BiketotheBeach - 147.4288
28. Ribs by Andy - 146.2858
29. Old Glory - 146.2856
30. Beerbecue - 146.2854
31. DCQ - 145.7136
32. Bootheel BBQ - 144.5714
33. Road Crew BBQ - 140.0000
34. Moe & Lou BBQ - 138.2854
35. Hog Bones BBQ - 137.7144
36. Team Crockettfeld - 134.8570
37. DD Barbecue Cue'in It - 129.7142
38. 2 Rac of Ribs - 119.9998
39. The HISTORY Cooking Team - 20.0000


Brisket:
1. Smokin Triggers - 174.8572
2. Jack's Old South - 173.1428
3. Firefighting BBQ Team - 170.8570
4. Stubborn Bull BBQ - 169.1428
5. Psychedelic Smoke BBQ - 168.0002
6. Cool Smoke - 166.2856
7. Pork Barrel BBQ - 166.2854
8. Purple Pork Masters - 162.8570
9. Beerbecue - 162.2856
10. Virginia 'Q - 161.7142
11. Serial Griller - 160.5712
12. Walk the Swine - 159.4284
13. Baby Got Butt - 158.8570
14. Burning Hot Unknowns - 156.5714
15. Moe & Lou BBQ - 156.0002
16. Dizzy Pig - 155.9998
17. Bootheel BBQ - 155.4284
18. HCDC - 154.2860
19. Lyin Pigs - 154.2858
20. Low Budget BBQ - 152.5714
21. 1 Bourbon,1 Scotch,1 Bee - 152.0000
22. Ernie's BBQ - 147.9998
23. The Cheeseheads - 147.9996
24. The HISTORY Cooking Team - 147.4286
25. Taste O'South - 147.4286
26. DCQ - 147.4284
27. Old Glory - 146.8570
28. Bones'BBQ(BiketotheBeach - 144.5714
29. 901 Que - 144.5712
30. Tickled Pig BBQ - 144.0000
31. Road Crew BBQ - 143.9998
32. Soulfull Cue - 143.4288
33. Team Crockettfeld - 140.5716
34. 2 Rac of Ribs - 138.8574
35. Hog Bones BBQ - 138.8570
36. Old Towne Pit Crew - 135.4284
37. Myers Meats - 134.8572
38. DD Barbecue Cue'in It - 133.7142
39. Ribs by Andy - 132.5714

Fornia
06-26-2012, 03:11 PM
Thanks Sal! I never really visit the kcbs site, wasn't even thinking.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
06-26-2012, 03:30 PM
Thanks Sal! I never really visit the kcbs site, wasn't even thinking.


no prob! awesome showing.

congrats to all.

Fornia
06-26-2012, 03:56 PM
Thanks man! We're really liking the Backwoods we picked up the night of the BBQ Bootcamp you did.

BABYGOTBUTT
06-26-2012, 05:24 PM
Much easier to fix the garnish mistake than the taste and tenderness!

I'd take a lot of confidence in that.

Just curious if you took the CBJ Class? I know that stuck out to my friend and I when we took it before ever competing.

Sorry we didn't get to meet in DC this weekend. Glad to be home, following a shower and much needed sleep in my bed last night. Sure you guys feel the same.

Best Sauce too, right???
Yeah. We won best sauce which was exciting. I have not taken a judges class but I really want to when I can squeeze it in. I am just now recovering. Long weekend. Who were you with?

Fornia
06-26-2012, 10:19 PM
Who were you with?

Awesome job on the sauce!

Our team is Psychedelic Smoke BBQ. We were near the end, next to Dizzy Pig.

MAP
06-27-2012, 06:15 AM
Yeah. We won best sauce which was exciting. I have not taken a judges class but I really want to when I can squeeze it in. I am just now recovering. Long weekend. Who were you with?

I see you are from Leonardtown. Way to represent St. Marys county. You make the third Comp team that I know from down here.

BABYGOTBUTT
06-27-2012, 06:42 AM
I see you are from Leonardtown. Way to represent St. Marys county. You make the third Comp team that I know from down here.
Mike,

I think you already know me from the Elk's Club. Big John. You cook with Morgan, right?

BABYGOTBUTT
06-27-2012, 06:43 AM
Awesome job on the sauce!

Our team is Psychedelic Smoke BBQ. We were near the end, next to Dizzy Pig.
Yeah...you guys rocked it out. Great job of the competition. I'll see you out on the BBQ trail.

Fornia
06-27-2012, 08:21 AM
Yeah...you guys rocked it out. Great job of the competition. I'll see you out on the BBQ trail.

Thanks! We're real proud of our showing....given this was our 4th KCBS contest and 1st time doing on-site, we're still flying high from it all. We've had some success so far this year in chicken, but it scored lowest for us in DC.

Great to see ribs, pork, and brisket were improved however.

Looking forward to meeting you down the trail!

BABYGOTBUTT
06-27-2012, 12:40 PM
Thanks! We're real proud of our showing....given this was our 4th KCBS contest and 1st time doing on-site, we're still flying high from it all. We've had some success so far this year in chicken, but it scored lowest for us in DC.

Great to see ribs, pork, and brisket were improved however.

Looking forward to meeting you down the trail!

This was our 3rd competition. We got into it late last year. You did a bootcamp w smokin gnome? How was that and does he do many?

Fornia
06-27-2012, 01:41 PM
This was our 3rd competition. We got into it late last year. You did a bootcamp w smokin gnome? How was that and does he do many?

That's awesome!

No....actually picked up our cooker the night he was doing a BBQ Bootcamp at Mason-Dixon BBQ. I know they do a number of them, not sure if the Gnomes help with all. Sal was a nice guy when we picked it up, offering advice and cold beverages (water!) for our long ride home that night.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
06-27-2012, 01:48 PM
This was our 3rd competition. We got into it late last year. You did a bootcamp w smokin gnome? How was that and does he do many?

the boot camp probably sucked. He just picked up a new cooker. Eric runs several boot camps there. I am doing a h&f brisket in August ( I think), if you contact the shop someone there should be able to give you date and by who.

FashionBiff
06-27-2012, 02:30 PM
I know that this is small consolation, but you can certainly be really proud of how well you cooked them.

Chalk it up as a lesson and be proud of your performance. It certainly bodes well for your next event.

Eric

What Erick said, besides sheat happens we all have done it in one form or another.

BABYGOTBUTT
06-27-2012, 03:37 PM
the boot camp probably sucked. He just picked up a new cooker. Eric runs several boot camps there. I am doing a h&f brisket in August ( I think), if you contact the shop someone there should be able to give you date and by who.


Thanks.

LGHT
06-27-2012, 03:59 PM
What that's pretty silly. If you where a CBJ you wouldn't have made that mistake. I'm still amazed that more cooks don't at least take the class and judge 1-2 events just to understand what goes on in the most important part of a comp the TENT.

9Q1
06-29-2012, 10:11 AM
John and crew...it was great meeting you guys this past weekend. You guys did a great job!! Janie and I had a blast and really enjoyed the setting. We finally made the 14 hour trip back home in Arlington, TN (just outside of Memphis) with no issues. Hope our paths cross again...now that I'm signed up here, I can keep tabs on you guys. Take care and stay in touch.
Chris & Janie
9Q1

BABYGOTBUTT
06-29-2012, 12:25 PM
John and crew...it was great meeting you guys this past weekend. You guys did a great job!! Janie and I had a blast and really enjoyed the setting. We finally made the 14 hour trip back home in Arlington, TN (just outside of Memphis) with no issues. Hope our paths cross again...now that I'm signed up here, I can keep tabs on you guys. Take care and stay in touch.
Chris & Janie
9Q1
It was really nice meeting you too Chris and Janie. Meeting good folks like yourselves makes the whole expierence worth it. Glad you made it home safely. I am just now feeling back to normal. Talk to you soon!!!!!!!!