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Brauma
06-24-2012, 06:52 AM
Grand Champion: 3 EYZ BBQ
Reserve Champion: Wolf's Revenge BBQ

Overall:
1. 3 EYZ BBQ - 637.1422
2. Wolf's Revenge BBQ - 633.7144
3. White Dog BBQ - 632.5716
4. Piedmont Pit BBQ - 631.4278
5. Deguello BBQ - 630.8570
6. 4:20 Q - 627.4282
7. Drilling & Grilling - 624.0000
8. Canoe & Que - 621.7136
9. Black Cat BBQ - 620.5714
10. Rocks Money Pit BBQ - 615.4282
11. Hogback Mtn. BBQ - 610.2854
12. Hickory Prime - 607.9998
13. Hambones by the Fire - 606.8570
14. Flavor Savor - 606.2850
15. Gooney Creek BBQ - 605.1430
16. Pavone Brothers BBQ - 605.1428
17. Jokers & Smokers - 605.1426
18. JD's Smokin' Misfits - 604.5710
19. Cat Sass BBQ - 602.8570
20. Fat Maxine - 602.8568
21. Island Time Grillin' - 593.7136
22. Fat Baby BBQ - 587.4282
23. Grand Slam BBQ - 586.8574
24. Brown Liquor BBQ - 585.1428
25. The Princess and the Pig - 583.4282
26. Sweet-N-Sassy BBQ Compan - 578.2860
27. Big Bad Dads BBQ - 575.9992
28. BBQ Unplugged - 569.1426

Chicken:
1. Black Cat BBQ - 170.8572
2. 3 EYZ BBQ - 166.8570
3. Canoe & Que - 163.4284
4. Pavone Brothers BBQ - 160.5714
5. Gooney Creek BBQ - 160.0004
6. Cat Sass BBQ - 159.4286
7. Deguello BBQ - 159.4286
8. Hickory Prime - 159.4284
9. Fat Maxine - 155.9998
10. Rocks Money Pit BBQ - 155.4286

Ribs:
1. 4:20 Q - 168.5716
2. Drilling & Grilling - 166.2858
3. White Dog BBQ - 162.8572
4. Deguello BBQ - 161.7144
5. Hogback Mtn. BBQ - 159.9998
6. Black Cat BBQ - 158.8570
7. Wolf's Revenge BBQ - 157.7142
8. The Princess and the Pig - 157.1430
9. Island Time Grillin' - 157.1426
10. Piedmont Pit BBQ - 156.5712

Pork:
1. Piedmont Pit BBQ - 165.7142
2. Rocks Money Pit BBQ - 162.8568
3. Canoe & Que - 159.9998
4. Drilling & Grilling - 159.4288
5. JD's Smokin' Misfits - 158.2856
6. Hambones by the Fire - 157.7140
7. 4:20 Q - 156.5712
8. White Dog BBQ - 155.4286
9. Fat Maxine - 155.4284
10. Hogback Mtn. BBQ - 155.4284

Brisket:
1. Wolf's Revenge BBQ - 173.7142
2. Gooney Creek BBQ - 165.7144
3. 3 EYZ BBQ - 163.4284
4. Flavor Savor - 163.4282
5. Deguello BBQ - 160.0002
6. White Dog BBQ - 159.4286
7. Fat Maxine - 157.7144
8. 4:20 Q - 157.7142
9. Piedmont Pit BBQ - 156.0000
10. Canoe & Que - 154.2854

Brauma
06-24-2012, 06:52 AM
Congrats to Dan and Chris and all who walked!

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
06-24-2012, 07:47 AM
3Eyz does it again!! wtg..props to Erik and Ken of white Dog!

congrats to all who walked and survived the storm.

BurninTree BBQ
06-24-2012, 09:37 AM
3Eyz on a roll!!!! WTG

bam
06-24-2012, 10:03 AM
Go 3eyz Go :clap2: congrats to all who got a call.

Rub
06-24-2012, 11:19 AM
Congrats 3 Eyz on another big win!

K-Train
06-24-2012, 12:28 PM
Congrats to 3Eyz and everyone else who walked. This was our best showing to date. 9th chicken, 9th pork, and 7th brisket. If I didn't mess our ribs up zoo badly we may have been top 10 (think I might have poisoned the judges). Great contest site (other then the ground bees, my ankle is still swollen). Got to be next to Brown Liquor for the 2nd time. They're a good bunch of guys to set up near. A well run by John as well you can tell he put a lot of himself into putting this on.
Keith

beerguy
06-24-2012, 02:52 PM
Congrats to Dan and Chris of 3EYZ. Great venue and well run. Being between 3EYZ and Fat Maxine's BBQ, you couldn't ask for better neighbors. I invite everyone to put this contest in their plans for next year.

White Dog BBQ
06-24-2012, 03:52 PM
Definitely a great first year event -- we had a good time. This one has a lot of potential. This part of Virginia is very fortunate -- to have both this event and Que and Cruz so close to each other, they're very lucky!

We'll be back next year!

paulhuff
06-24-2012, 08:32 PM
congrats guys, glad to see you all survived the weather

walrus79
06-24-2012, 09:43 PM
Thank for the shout out Keith, you guys did awesome and were a pleasure to be next to as well. Congrats to Dan and all who walked. We had a blast, but were pretty disappointed with a 12th in brisket being our best turn in and overall being near the bottom. We really thought we put out some good stuff...some very inconsistent oddities on the judging sheets (two 8s and two 5s on appearance for a brisket box for example, I just don't get it!). Oh well, we had a blast and enjoyed a really well run event that I predict will be a must do event in the years to come.

Pigs on The Run
06-24-2012, 10:13 PM
I had the best teams ever at our contest! We love you GUYS! Thanks for everything
Now I am official a Contest Organizer. Whew!

http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/BBQ_Festival_Provides_Economic_Morale_Boost_in_Flu vanna_160138465.html

5-0 BBQ
06-25-2012, 08:18 AM
A 3 Eyz GC without a call in Ribs? You guys are getting dangerous! Keep it going. Congrats

va92bronco
06-25-2012, 08:23 AM
Congrats to everyone. Looked like a huge success.

Pitts
06-25-2012, 09:13 AM
Thank for the shout out Keith, you guys did awesome and were a pleasure to be next to as well. Congrats to Dan and all who walked. We had a blast, but were pretty disappointed with a 12th in brisket being our best turn in and overall being near the bottom. We really thought we put out some good stuff...some very inconsistent oddities on the judging sheets (two 8s and two 5s on appearance for a brisket box for example, I just don't get it!). Oh well, we had a blast and enjoyed a really well run event that I predict will be a must do event in the years to come.

We got some 5's too. Everything else was 7&8's even a couple of 9's. Kept us from being where we thought we should have (would have been).
But we had a great time as well I am sure we will go again next year :)

Big Ugly's BBQ
06-25-2012, 09:28 AM
A 3 Eyz GC without a call in Ribs? You guys are getting dangerous! Keep it going. Congrats

Having a great sponsor helps alot, thanks for everything you do!!

Folks, the BBQ Equipment Store is your one-stop shop for BBQ supplies. If Steve doesn't have it, he will get it. Stop by and say hello sometime!

5-0 BBQ
06-25-2012, 09:34 AM
Having a great sponsor helps alot, thanks for everything you do!!

Folks, the BBQ Equipment Store is your one-stop shop for BBQ supplies. If Steven's doesn't have it, he will get it!Thanks Man. We are happy to help. FYI: I think I may have to adjust the rest of our comps this year to ones you guys are not at. You guys are on a roll! On second thought we would settle for second to you any day. :grin:

FlavorSavor
06-25-2012, 10:30 AM
I'm not complaining or anything like that, but I too thought the scoring was all over the place. Our brisket, for example, took 4th place with the following scores:
777
989
879
987
989
989

Our ribs were really out there. Personally, I thought our ribs were a bit undercooked and over seasoned. But the scoring is all over the place. Weird. Hard to learn anything with a few 5's and 6's in the same row as 8's and 9's.
666
989
877
579
977
688

walrus79
06-25-2012, 10:47 AM
Well that first rib judge was obviously the devil!

Big George's BBQ
06-25-2012, 11:30 AM
Congrasts 3 Eyz WTG White Dog BBQ with 3rd overall

Pigs on The Run
06-26-2012, 08:24 AM
BBQ Bands and Brews Back yard Winners

Heavenly Smokers with Pit Master Bryant Atkins (Scottsville, VA)
Heavy Metal and Fire with Pit Master Thomas Murphy (Manassas, VA)
Meatatarians with Pit Master Michael Chinn (Newport News, VA)
The Pig's Ear with Pit Master Mike Collins (Lynchburg, VA)

Over All

Meatatarians with Pit Master Michael Chinn (Newport News, VA) Grand Champions
Heavenly Smokers with Pit Master Bryant Atkins (Scottsville, VA) Reserved Grand
The Pig's Ear with Pit Master Mike Collins (Lynchburg, VA)
Heavy Metal and Fire with Pit Master Thomas Murphy (Manassas, VA)

Chicken:
Meatatarians with Pit Master Michael Chinn (Newport News, VA)
The Pig's Ear with Pit Master Mike Collins (Lynchburg, VA)
Heavenly Smokers with Pit Master Bryant Atkins (Scottsville, VA)
Heavy Metal and Fire with Pit Master Thomas Murphy (Manassas, VA)

Ribs:
Heavenly Smokers with Pit Master Bryant Atkins (Scottsville, VA)
Meatatarians with Pit Master Michael Chinn (Newport News, VA)
Heavy Metal and Fire with Pit Master Thomas Murphy (Manassas, VA)
The Pig's Ear with Pit Master Mike Collins (Lynchburg, VA)

Pigs on The Run
06-27-2012, 07:35 AM
Ok Here is your Judges comment: Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkU00oWsdrg&feature=youtu.be&noredirect=1

Pigs on The Run
06-27-2012, 10:38 PM
More pics
http://www.fluvannareview.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=69&Itemid=199

tigerpaw
06-28-2012, 03:58 PM
From a judge’s observation:
I was assigned to be there. I saw several judges I knew but I also saw a lot of judges I had never seen before. As is customary, the contest reps asked if we had any new judges in attendance so they could begin process of rearranging. Not to make those that know this already feel slighted like I am talking down to them but maybe for some newer teams this may be of interest.
Some contest reps like to assign you to a table. They do so to spread the wealth so to speak. Have a master judge at a table with a newer judge. Separate family members from same tables which ALWAYS occurs whither they assign a table or not. Try to average out at each table the same amount of events judged so that was table does not have all judges that have worked 10 events while another table has all judges that have worked 50 or more event.
This event people sat where they wanted. They were not pre-assigned. The CR then asked if we had any new judges. Half the tent raised their hands. I am not kidding. Experienced judges, master judges, etc were an almost even split with first time ever judges in the tent. I had never seen so many new first time judges in my experiences at any event.
The CR ended up seating the new judges 3 to a table. There were 5 tables as I recall. I was assigned to table captain. A master judge also agreed to TC. 2 other table captains were also experienced judges. Only one table was TC by a new judge.
At my table I had the new judges move so that each one was beside an experienced judge. I asked each experienced judge to discuss each entry when scoring had been completed to compare notes on their scores. I also reviewed each score card for wide variations in scores. For way majority my table was almost dead on in each. One may be higher on taste and lower on tenderness back and forth. Save one entry. One entry 4 judges marked it way down and filled out comment cards. The other two did not and their scores were a wee bit higher but not 6’s or better.
I thought from what I saw the new judges at my table scored their very consistently with their more experienced counter parts. I think also each was happy to be able to discuss with the person experienced into what they thought of each entry when done and it worked very well.
I cannot say what may have occurred at other tables. But thought it might help to know half of each table was a first time judge so maybe that might help explain the varying scores. Maybe not.

Kit R
06-29-2012, 06:47 AM
From a judge’s observation:
I was assigned to be there. I saw several judges I knew but I also saw a lot of judges I had never seen before. As is customary, the contest reps asked if we had any new judges in attendance so they could begin process of rearranging. Not to make those that know this already feel slighted like I am talking down to them but maybe for some newer teams this may be of interest.
Some contest reps like to assign you to a table. They do so to spread the wealth so to speak. Have a master judge at a table with a newer judge. Separate family members from same tables which ALWAYS occurs whither they assign a table or not. Try to average out at each table the same amount of events judged so that was table does not have all judges that have worked 10 events while another table has all judges that have worked 50 or more event.
This event people sat where they wanted. They were not pre-assigned. The CR then asked if we had any new judges. Half the tent raised their hands. I am not kidding. Experienced judges, master judges, etc were an almost even split with first time ever judges in the tent. I had never seen so many new first time judges in my experiences at any event.
The CR ended up seating the new judges 3 to a table. There were 5 tables as I recall. I was assigned to table captain. A master judge also agreed to TC. 2 other table captains were also experienced judges. Only one table was TC by a new judge.
At my table I had the new judges move so that each one was beside an experienced judge. I asked each experienced judge to discuss each entry when scoring had been completed to compare notes on their scores. I also reviewed each score card for wide variations in scores. For way majority my table was almost dead on in each. One may be higher on taste and lower on tenderness back and forth. Save one entry. One entry 4 judges marked it way down and filled out comment cards. The other two did not and their scores were a wee bit higher but not 6’s or better.
I thought from what I saw the new judges at my table scored their very consistently with their more experienced counter parts. I think also each was happy to be able to discuss with the person experienced into what they thought of each entry when done and it worked very well.
I cannot say what may have occurred at other tables. But thought it might help to know half of each table was a first time judge so maybe that might help explain the varying scores. Maybe not.

Thanks for sharing your observations at Palmyra. I think another way to look at the number of new judges is that it's a good indicator that our sport is gaining popularity i.e. new people are coming into the judging community. And I am all for getting as many new judges into the community as possible as it brings fresh perspectives into the process. I appreciate our existing community of judges, but I also think the established judging community benefits from new faces and perspectives just as much as the competitor community.

We competed there and had nothing in our scores that appeared out of the ordinary to me. Aside from a BIG tumble on pork (4th out of 69 in Swinetastic to 18th out of 28th at Palmyra) the rest of our scores were in line with what we've been getting from a placing perspective. We did get a comment card on our 7th place chicken saying it was too saucy and that the judge couldn't taste the chicken, but that's not out of the ordinary (We DID get a comment card on our 2nd place brisket at Naptown that made me chuckle). These are my personal observations, aside from numerical scores seemed generally low across the board.

walrus79
06-29-2012, 09:44 AM
I'm all for using new judges, hell we (CBJs) were all new at one point and had to start somewhere. I too think it's great for competitive bbq and KCBS that our sport is growing. However, HALF of judges in the tent is unacceptable for me. Every CBJ here knows that a 4 hour class does not make you a judge, it's getting out there and doing it. The experiece, the collaboration and discussions after scoring each meat (actual competition grade meat) are invaluable. To be blunt, I feel like we were judged by an equivalent of people off the street with only limited exposure to what competition bbq, specifically KCBS standard bbq is...half that is. From my experience, finding experience judges isn't hard to do. I just read over on the Covington thread what they're doing in relation to have having had a CBJ class their earlier this year and capping the number of new judges. I applaud that effort and think they won't have the inconsistencies and complaints related to judging Palmyra had. I still had a great time and it was overall a great event, this is just my 2 pennies. And yes, I'd feel the same way if I'd of scored higher!

Pitts
06-29-2012, 10:59 AM
Being new to this whole comp thing I really have little room to comment intelligently, but, it does seem that 50% of the judges being new is a bit unbalanced. I have to believe, however, the Safeway BBQ Battle in DC and the Sams club event in Greensboro had some influence on judges turnout, plus the fact that this was a first event (and mine). Just my .02 as well. Looking forward to next year !

walrus79
06-29-2012, 11:48 AM
Good point Pitts about competing events having an impact on getting experienced judges. But I wonder if it was truly that or giving those spots to the folks who took the local judging class earlier in the year. I see there's a CBJ class in Gettysburg the Thursday before the comp next month. I hope it's not a repeat situation as we'll be there cooking.

Pitts
06-29-2012, 02:17 PM
I see what ur sayin. Interesting.