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WineMaster
05-25-2012, 05:09 PM
What do ya think

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t298/WineGod/Brisket.jpg

Smokin Hebrew
05-25-2012, 05:15 PM
It looks very nice to me. The burnt ends look very appetizing and the box is not over crowded.

NRA4Life
05-25-2012, 05:25 PM
looks good to me

Jaybo77
05-25-2012, 06:10 PM
Looks very good. And clean

Contracted Cookers
05-25-2012, 06:18 PM
9 looks very good

big brother smoke
05-25-2012, 06:46 PM
9 from this standpoint.

KevinK
05-25-2012, 08:25 PM
Slices look very moist and burnt ends look very appetizing. I would give this a 9.

Harbormaster
05-25-2012, 08:43 PM
That's a 9.

How was it?

MattG
05-26-2012, 05:45 AM
9 Very Nice Box

WineMaster
05-27-2012, 09:04 AM
I think the burnt ends held the scores low.

jbrink01
05-27-2012, 09:51 AM
9........

bbq.tom
05-27-2012, 11:32 AM
I'd give this box a 9 also!

Looks excellent! Slices look moist and the BEs look great too.

smalls65
05-27-2012, 03:27 PM
9!!!!!!!!!!! You are ready..now go get em!!!!! :thumb:

BRBBQ
05-27-2012, 03:44 PM
9 to me:thumb:

bigabyte
05-27-2012, 03:46 PM
I would give it a 9

Podge
05-27-2012, 04:55 PM
9!.. looks great !!.. if I were a judge, and saw this, this would tell me that the cook has an eye for detail, and it'll probably taste as good as it looks !!

bam
05-27-2012, 06:24 PM
9 to me :clap2:

MWRobison
05-27-2012, 09:16 PM
Looks good, the garnish is restrained, which is good-many boxes are over-full of garnish IMHO. The burnt ends are a lot darker, which may be a photograph issue- they probably look (looked?) better "live".

Mike Robison
KCBS 61436

accuseal
05-27-2012, 09:25 PM
9 for sure.

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juslearning
05-27-2012, 09:40 PM
8. I like a full box but not all do.

Limp Brisket
05-27-2012, 10:23 PM
I'd be pissed with an 8.

DMDon
05-27-2012, 10:57 PM
The first things that caught my eye
1. the slices look moist and juicy
2. The slices look out of order. What I mean is they don't look like sequential pieces.
3. the burnt ends are nice and shiney
4 the are not all the same size and facing the same direction.

How did they both taste?

CivilWarBBQ
05-28-2012, 01:28 AM
I'd be pissed with an 8.

Absolutely.

That box is a 9 or the judge needs glasses.

we did it bbq
05-28-2012, 02:09 AM
It would be a 9 with me, burnt ends are nice looking.

CookingandCleaning
05-28-2012, 08:43 AM
So its better to not have sequencial slices?

Fourthwind
05-28-2012, 08:59 AM
Appearance I would give a 9. Looks appetizing, but I will be really honest with you when I say that on average burnt ends are dangerous to scores. Next time you do this, box up your meat the way you do for comp. Let it sit in the shade for ten minutes, then open it up for one minute. Then close back up for another 5 minutes. then put a piece of sliced and burnt end on a piece of paper on a table. Let sit for 3 to 5 minutes, and then taste your food. Burnt ends can get tough when they get cold, and we as judges have to average the score in a box if there are multiple meats. When I looked at your box, my absolute first thought in my head was I hate cold burnt ends.

esselle
05-28-2012, 09:21 AM
Very nice 9 here.

DerrickG
05-28-2012, 01:48 PM
That's a 9!
juslearning...how more full can a box get?
You judge on what is presented...not how full a box is.

Smokedelic
05-28-2012, 03:06 PM
Appearance I would give a 9. Looks appetizing, but I will be really honest with you when I say that on average burnt ends are dangerous to scores. Next time you do this, box up your meat the way you do for comp. Let it sit in the shade for ten minutes, then open it up for one minute. Then close back up for another 5 minutes. then put a piece of sliced and burnt end on a piece of paper on a table. Let sit for 3 to 5 minutes, and then taste your food. Burnt ends can get tough when they get cold, and we as judges have to average the score in a box if there are multiple meats. When I looked at your box, my absolute first thought in my head was I hate cold burnt ends.
Where were you taught that "we as judges have to average the score in a box if there are multiple meats"?

Smokedelic
05-28-2012, 03:08 PM
8. I like a full box but not all do.
Curious as to where you received instructions to score a box down if it's not full of meat?

CivilWarBBQ
05-28-2012, 07:27 PM
Where were you taught that "we as judges have to average the score in a box if there are multiple meats"?

I've heard that sentiment expressed by several instructors in CBJ classes. The base idea is that a judge should sample every different type of meat in each box, if possible. So for example, if there are six or more burnt ends and slices in a box, the judge should sample both and return a composite score based on the total entry, not a score based on just one of the offered types. The exception is in a case where there is not sufficient meat in the box for each judge to take a sample of each type, such as a mixed chicken box with three drums and three thighs.

Hence I personally follow the maxim of "only put your best in the box": i.e. If the burnt ends aren't great, we leave them out.

stevenw106
05-29-2012, 06:59 AM
nice box

Lake Dogs
05-29-2012, 10:50 AM
Curious as to where you received instructions to score a box down if it's not full of meat?

I dont think he was judging on that, specifically, just giving a tip or two. Appearance scores are simple: what is or isn't appetizing to you, and then applying a score based upon HOW appetizing it is (or isn't).

If he finds it, averages being averages, more appetizing to see a box full of great meat, then he does. If someone finds a box with 6 little pieces in there more appetizing, then they do. Not right, nor wrong.

Truth be told, I've given lots of 7's and 8's for chicken that frankly wasn't appetizing at all to me. That's the real ***** of it. See, to me, if it doesn't look like chicken, then I have to ask myself, if it's not chicken, WTF is it? That's not good, frankly. I ask you, honestly, when you look at a Christmas tree and see those BEAUTIFUL red shining ball ornaments, do you think to yourself "Damn, I REALLY HAVE TO EAT THAT!!!!". I think not. So, rather than give them like a 4 on a Christmas Tree display, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that it is actually chicken hidden underneath their display and score them more for actual presentation of the unknown-stuff vs. the appearance and appetizing nature of the meat.
Taste has no bearing on this score. I've had some christmas balls that tasted like wonderful BBQ'd chicken, and I've others that tasted like wonderful sauce (this ain't a sauce contest), and others that were real purdy but didn't taste worth a ****.

There are no rules (other than the minimums) as to how much meat you should put in there, or that all should be arranged this way or that, or that all should be the same approximate size [you'll hear and read this a LOT], or that all should.... It's just whatever is appetizing to the judge, who on that day is the beholder.

CMALANGA
05-29-2012, 11:11 AM
looks like a 9

hamiltont
05-29-2012, 11:12 AM
I'm pretty sure I'd give it a 9. It looks quite appealing and makes me want to dive right in. Cheers!!!

Diva Q
05-29-2012, 12:22 PM
Makes me want it.

9 without a doubt.

rweller
05-29-2012, 04:11 PM
. Burnt ends can get tough when they get cold, and we as judges have to average the score in a box if there are multiple meats. When I looked at your box, my absolute first thought in my head was I hate cold burnt ends.

Who told you, you are suppose to average the score in a box if there are multiple meats in a box??? I know a lot of judges do that but I was never taught that.

Personally I think your box looks great. I'd score a 9

Stoke&Smoke
05-29-2012, 04:24 PM
Solid 9! very clean box!

smokinobbq
05-29-2012, 10:17 PM
Looks good i would give it a 9

DerrickG
05-29-2012, 10:41 PM
Minimum slices plus one...if it gets dropped.
Nice glaze on the burnt ends...i wish mine came out that good!
Good job!

CivilWarBBQ
05-30-2012, 03:08 AM
Who told you, you are suppose to average the score in a box if there are multiple meats in a box??? I know a lot of judges do that but I was never taught that.

Personally I think your box looks great. I'd score a 9

See my comments a couple posts up.

Wrench_H
05-30-2012, 12:08 PM
I'd give it a 6.

Sincerely,
Judge 6


Seriously though, that is a 9. Nice box.

DerrickG
05-30-2012, 10:43 PM
That judge 6 gets me every time!

Crash
05-31-2012, 04:13 AM
9 here...solid box.