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CarbonToe
09-07-2005, 05:26 AM
Well where do I start, moved from 1 bed basement flat with no garden to a 3 bed house on the south coast with garden about 2.5 years ago. Decided I wanted to cook outdoors and surf (but the surfings another story!). Bought a Weber One-Touch Platinum (57cm) charcoal Kettle.

Started maranating and making sauces and cooking meat directly but my style soon changed over to indirect hot smoking of various food stuffs (with/without sauces, rubs, glazes, etc).

This shift had mainly occured after reading the Dinosaur Barbecue cookbook and then BBQ USA (Steven Raichlen) from cover to cover!!! And I've cooked nearly all the Dino recipes and at least 25 recipes from the USA book. (Holiday's in Sugarloaf also has a lot to answer for - mainly my love of Beans!!!)

I'm now looking at purchasing a dedicated smoker as keeping the Weber loaded up and at a stedy low temp for 6hours+ is hard work. I can't believe how lucky you guys are with a) meat prices and cuts and b) smoker prices and choice. (You can at least double the US price for the equiv pit in the UK). Going into a UK butcher with a description of a US style cut and asking them to reproduce it makes them smile, ie Ribs here have very little meat as they are mainly a by product of selling belly, so asking for the whole rack but remove the belly skin and fat normally gets the required cut (but fills the freezer to the amusment of the other half!)

Well I'll prob post in the other part of the forums soon as I'm not sure which smoker to go for, I've narrowed it down to either the Brinkmann Vertical Smoker (http://www.brinkmannsmokers.co.uk/vertical_smoker.htm) [I'd love a smoke king deluxe but at $850 its a bit beyond my grasp!!] or the Weber Bullet (but then loading it looks awkward compared with the Brink Vert).

Thanks for reading my ramblings.

T

Aeynghus
09-07-2005, 05:37 AM
Greetings Brother CarbonToe!

MrSmoker
09-07-2005, 06:19 AM
Welcome to the Family,Brother T

chad
09-07-2005, 06:38 AM
Welcome to the neighborhood.

Sounds like you need to hook up with a local metal shop and convince them they "need" a project! :D

As you've probably noticed, our bunch has just about every cooker or contraption known to the bbq world. And, typical of colonialists, we've got opinions about everything! :D

For example: if you normally cook for one or two people the WSM is really hard to beat. Well built, easy to clean, and maintains the temperature almost as if it has a thermostat (which, actually, can be added!). http://www.thebbqguru.com/

rbsnwngs
09-07-2005, 07:24 AM
welcome aboard T

VitaminQ
09-07-2005, 07:57 AM
Welcome, brother-from-across-the-pond!

spicewine
09-07-2005, 08:11 AM
Welcome Bro Toe!!!

icemn62
09-07-2005, 08:41 AM
The world IS getting smaller day by day. Welcome to the brother from the UK

tommykendall
09-07-2005, 09:25 AM
Welcome Carbon

Smoker
09-07-2005, 10:03 AM
Welcome,

You need to move somewhere a little more meat friendly.

BBQchef33
09-07-2005, 10:20 AM
Did I just see $850 for a smoke king deluxe? Holy brinkman batman! At the current prices, we will be able to trade u a gallon of gas for that though. :evil:

Unless your really lookig for high volume, the Weber bullet is a great smoker for a family, You can easily cook for 6-8 on it. And if its a more reasonable price, i'd reconsider that options. Loading isnt that bad. If you dont want to load from the top, both racks come out, load the rack, and put it back in. Loading was never a problem i have heard someone mention.

Welcome to our side of the atlantic. Enjoy!!!

Trout_man22
09-07-2005, 11:16 AM
Welcome

jt
09-07-2005, 12:14 PM
Welcome to the fray!

rbinms33
09-07-2005, 12:19 PM
Welcome aboard, T!

chad
09-07-2005, 12:24 PM
Check out www.virtualweberbullet.com for lots of info about the Weber Smokey Mountain - good "user" site for this often misunderstood cooker. :D

slat
09-07-2005, 12:27 PM
Welcome to the group. Glad to see we are getting more worldly. Great to have you. Look forward to your posting.

BBQ_MAFIA
09-07-2005, 07:48 PM
Welcome to the group.

Can you smoke mushy peas?

frognot
09-07-2005, 07:53 PM
Welcome aboard, my Brother!

The_Kapn
09-07-2005, 07:55 PM
Welcome from across the big pond :lol:

TIM

BrooklynQ
09-07-2005, 07:57 PM
Welcome

CarbonToe
09-08-2005, 11:22 AM
Did I just see $850 for a smoke king deluxe? Holy brinkman batman! At the current prices, we will be able to trade u a gallon of gas for that though. :evil:

Don't get me started on Petrol (Gas). We are currently tipping £1 per litre - Thats $7.2 per gallon and that with the excellent rate of $ to £'s!!!

CarbonToe
09-08-2005, 11:25 AM
Can you smoke mushy peas?

You like mushy peas? Urrrggghhhhhh

I did make a really good chilli last week using smoked steak meat!!

BBQ_MAFIA
09-08-2005, 11:42 AM
[quote=BBQ_MAFIA]Can you smoke mushy peas?

You like mushy peas? Urrrggghhhhhh

I've never actually ate Mushy Peas. I just didn't understand them.

We had a few employee's from the UK that worked in our Amsterdam office. They told me that Mushy Peas were a big deal in the UK and that everyone ate them. In fact, they frequently had their families ship cans of the Peas to the office as the local Marks and Spencer in Amsterdam did not carry them . The guys were always excited about getting their shipments.

I figure if your going to eat Mushy Peas you might as well try smoking them. :lol:

Guido

qman
09-08-2005, 01:30 PM
Welcome to the neighborhood, CarbonToe. Enjoy the ride.

ckkphoto
09-08-2005, 01:48 PM
Welcome aboard! :D

rookiedad
09-08-2005, 08:59 PM
hi and welcome
phil

VitaminQ
09-09-2005, 07:39 AM
Can you smoke mushy peas?

You like mushy peas? Urrrggghhhhhh

I did make a really good chilli last week using smoked steak meat!!

There used to be an English restaurant here in Tulsa, OK of all places. They had an excellent steak and kidney pie. I don't know how "authentic" it was, but I sure liked it. Fish and ships were so-so. But they had really good mushy peas. I don't know why, but I loved them. I think the place is gone, now. It never was too busy, and I just can't imagine it being a success here in redneck-land.

jt
09-09-2005, 08:31 AM
I did make a really good chilli last week using smoked steak meat!!
Did you use beans? :twisted:

rookiedad
09-09-2005, 08:41 AM
i think mushy peas and smoke go together like white and rice. make pea soup with a big old smoked ham bone in it and cook it until it is the consistancy of mashed potatos. mmm!
frequently had their families ship cans of the Peas to the office

cans!? i thought that was made with peas from the bag. how is it done over there?
phil

CarbonToe
09-09-2005, 08:47 AM
I did make a really good chilli last week using smoked steak meat!!
Did you use beans? :twisted:

Yep, I like it that way!!! :lol:

I do frown on Rice with chilli though, its got to be french bread ripped into chunks!!

Arlin_MacRae
09-09-2005, 09:37 AM
Welcome, M8! I spent two years near Oxford and BBQ generally just wasn't a menu choice. ;)
Lead the way, make the waves, start a Qing revolution!

So does CarbonToe make us a truly international brotherhood? Can we get a discount on gas or something now??

Arlin

Neil
09-10-2005, 05:54 AM
Welcome aboard Carbontoe, enjoy what you learn and share what you know.

Bigdog
09-10-2005, 08:19 AM
Welcome CarbonToe. Have you thought about a Weber Smokey Mountain (WSM)? You can buy them at Amazon for $179 with free shipping. Have no idea if they ship to the UK or not. This smoker is one of the best small smokers available, and many competition and backyard cooks use them.

CarbonToe
09-12-2005, 06:50 AM
Welcome CarbonToe. Have you thought about a Weber Smokey Mountain (WSM)? You can buy them at Amazon for $179 with free shipping. Have no idea if they ship to the UK or not. This smoker is one of the best small smokers available, and many competition and backyard cooks use them.

I originally was looking at one of those, but the top loading put me off, and thats why I ended up looking at the Brinkmann products.

If I order from Amazon.com I'll get charged 17.5% tax + a $15 customs charge + a high delivery charge from Amazon (thats assuming they delivery bulky items to the UK, their website is vague!). The UK one used to stock them by doesn't any more.

If I went with a WSM, they retail in the UK for about $450!!! And they are really hard to find second hand or on eBay as people don't tend to invest that much money on a specialist item if they arent going to use it!

I have been reading the Virtual WSM site for a while, but the people there are mainly WSM users so they are going to be biased. I would like advice from people who have used and lived with both,

Shall I drop a post in QTalk and start of a discussion on the Pros and cons or the Brinkmann Vertical Smoker (http://www.brinkmannsmokers.co.uk/vertical_smoker.htm) Vs the WSM (http://www.weber.com/bbq/pub/grill/2005/charcoal/cg_sg_smk.aspx). The Brinkmann is about $50 cheaper and looks better built and I cannot test or see them for myself as I don't live near any stockists!!!! So comparative price isn't really an issue (except for the expense!). And also to muddy the water, is the Brinkmann Smoke King Deluxe worth the extra $400 over the Vertical (ie $845). [I'm also yet to find any alternatives in the UK to the Brinkmann and Weber products]. I've checked around a few local Iron/Steel workers but the Smoker concept is totally alien and commisioning one (once I've found some plans) would cost more than the BSKD as it's a one off cusom job.

Ta Guys.

Trout_man22
09-12-2005, 07:30 AM
There is two sites you might want to visit the first is so-so the second is one you might find more helpful.

Trout

www.britishbarbecue.co.uk
http://www.oscarenterprises.f2s.com/main_page_build_a_pit.html#BuildingPlan

CarbonToe
09-12-2005, 07:45 AM
Thanks, I didnít spot the planís on that site. I did buy the Building Barbecues and Outdoor Kitchens from Amazon but I wasnít impressed. It should be called ĎBuilding enclosures to slot your purchased BBQ intoí!!!!!

Unfortunately I donít possess the skills or equipment to make a steel BBQ and getting one built is more expensive than buying a Brinkmann one. I donít want a brick one as I want to take the BBQ with me when I move.

Solidkick
09-12-2005, 08:13 PM
Welcome! You know, you could be my long lost distant cousin.......you do have the BBQ in your genes.......

nmayeux
09-12-2005, 10:35 PM
Welcome, and I'd be interested if you have used any curry with some of your recipes.
Noah

CarbonToe
09-13-2005, 01:59 AM
Welcome, and I'd be interested if you have used any curry with some of your recipes.
Noah

Chicken Tikka Masala sir? (That great british invention!)

Yes, more in the past that recently. I used to maranate a lot of meat for direct grilling with wet curry maranade. A basic dry curry rub tastes fab on whole chicken if applied about 4 hours before smoking.

Bill-Chicago
09-13-2005, 07:14 AM
Fish and ships were so-so. .

What turned you off V, the fish or the ships?

Welcome Carbon Toe