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afreemaniii
05-08-2012, 10:03 AM
Was anyone else excited to see an email link to a member survey from the KCBS only to be let down once you started filling it out?

I thought I might be able to provide information that would allow the KCBS to design programs to serve the members, but quickly found out it was merely a marketing survey for their partners. What a shame.

Big Poppa
05-08-2012, 10:48 AM
I filled it out. I choose to believe that if they can convince the foil companies clorox wipes and all that we are a segment that they may be able to create additional programs to benefit us like the Resers, Kingsford, sams, etc.
At least they are asking.

Podge
05-08-2012, 11:02 AM
It's a sponsorship that Sam's has with KCBS, and for them to get something out of that sponsorship, they gave this survey. Sam's just can't give give and give.

afreemaniii
05-08-2012, 11:07 AM
I filled it out. I choose to believe that if they can convince the foil companies clorox wipes and all that we are a segment that they may be able to create additional programs to benefit us like the Resers, Kingsford, sams, etc.
At least they are asking.

Good point. I got 10 minutes into it and gave up. I wasn't able to put the survey into this context after answering the 5th question about bbq sauces. I'll go back and complete the survey later with your goal in mind.

DawgPhan
05-08-2012, 11:10 AM
it is a long survey to be sure, but let's see what sam's can put together when they find out that most teams would rather not get their stuff there.

Fat Freddy
05-08-2012, 11:12 AM
One of the questions was about where you buy the sauce you use and it gave several options. My issue with it was that I order my comp sauce online and that wasnt one of the options and I couldnt go beyond that question unless I answered with one of their options.

Slamdunkpro
05-08-2012, 11:20 AM
I won't answer demographic questions in survey's like that and since there was no way to opt out of those...............

Warthog
05-08-2012, 11:41 AM
I had no problem filling it out. Not sure if it was just for Sam's. I don't buy anything from Sam's. My favorite place to purchase meats is at Restaurant Depot.

Leatherheadiowa
05-08-2012, 11:42 AM
It's a sponsorship that Sam's has with KCBS, and for them to get something out of that sponsorship, they gave this survey. Sam's just can't give give and give.

I hope the " give give and give" was sarcasm. Sam's Club national and the Sam's Club local stores make out like bandits.
I have no problem with Sam's Club sponsoring the events but they aren't hurt in the least. WalMart Corporation has the 19th largest economy in the world when compared to all nations reporting, they can give, give, and give all they want.

I would like to see a member survey that allowed for more input into the dealings and workings of KCBS. I am putting a great deal of faith in the four new candidates to make graudual changes and I am realizing they are doing their best and things take time.

WineMaster
05-08-2012, 12:06 PM
It's a sponsorship that Sam's has with KCBS, and for them to get something out of that sponsorship, they gave this survey. Sam's just can't give give and give.

As Sams and Walmart continue to force small businesses to close, They need to continue to give, give, give! I know alot of small business owners that use to do alot for their communities. I'm sure the evil twins make all that loss up though right.

Jorge
05-08-2012, 12:41 PM
Speaking solely for myself, and not for KCBS or the board...

Somebody please feel free to inform me how you have determined that this survey was done on behalf of Sam's or Wal Mart. As a member of the board that's information that I don't have. What I saw, and participated in was a survey that could help KCBS attract additional partners.

It's not the place of KCBS, to force a PARTNER to 'give, and give, and give'. Financially, they are giving quite a bit to BBQ. Beyond that they are giving a LOT of teams the opportunity to compete in a unique series. Their total investment is beyond sizeable when you look at the costs involved. I was in Midwest City for the first trial event before the series was rolled out the following year. I can tell you that there were executives there from Bentonville and they were seeking feedback from teams about what they could do to better serve them. Is there profit motive there? Absolutely! Is there a benefit to teams if they received some reasonable feedback? Absolutely!

Some of us may not agree on this issue, but Sam's/Wal Mart has been good to BBQ in my personal opinion. If you disagree then I'd love to see another example of anyone willing and able to fund a series that could come close to providing as much opportunity, to as many members, accross the entire country.

My .02, and my opinion only.

Podge
05-08-2012, 01:23 PM
"Financially, they are giving quite a bit to BBQ. Beyond that they are giving a LOT of teams the opportunity to compete in a unique series. Their total investment is beyond sizeable when you look at the costs involved."

Pretty much what I was trying to say. taking 10 minutes to fill out a survey for a chance to win $100 gift card seemed reasonable.

Jorge
05-08-2012, 01:27 PM
"Financially, they are giving quite a bit to BBQ. Beyond that they are giving a LOT of teams the opportunity to compete in a unique series. Their total investment is beyond sizeable when you look at the costs involved."

Pretty much what I was trying to say. taking 10 minutes to fill out a survey for a chance to win $100 gift card seemed reasonable.

Quit typing, that Worthless Nut guy is going to show up at some point and want his Jambo wiped down. He may cry like a little girl if you have carpal tunnel syndrome and can't do it:razz:

Podge
05-08-2012, 01:30 PM
Jorge, I have about 6 weeks to get that carpal tunnel under control until I need to wipe that Jambo down again !

nukenight
05-08-2012, 01:48 PM
The problem with the survey was I had to use "Other" for most of my answers. Besides, we don't use Kingsford anything, so why would I want to buy something? They needed a None button on that window.

Smoke Ring
05-08-2012, 03:17 PM
I think the issue is that the survey has little, if nothing, to do with member's concerns or needs. It's all about gathering data for their corporate sponsors. It seems the corporate sponsors have become more important to KCBS than their members. The number one priority seems to be making more money for the big corporations and MMA. Does KCBS care about the members any more?

Slamdunkpro
05-08-2012, 03:34 PM
The problem with the survey was I had to use "Other" for most of my answers. Besides, we don't use Kingsford anything, so why would I want to buy something? They needed a None button on that window.
Yes, with that plus every question being mandatory they're going to get some skewed data.

gmholler
05-08-2012, 04:00 PM
I had to give up - it wouldn't let me select "Other" more than once in a question, but we don't have most of the grocery stores listed in that survey around here!

Lynn H.

boogiesnap
05-08-2012, 04:22 PM
i didn't find it too bad. one good thing, gave the brethren a nod for question 16. :becky:

Smoke'n Ice
05-08-2012, 05:02 PM
Glanced at it twice, once for my membership and once for my wife's, and then opted out with the use of the delete key. It was not worth the chance as the odds are slim and none and we know slim left town.

Now if they were to offer something like a 5% discount on your next membership fee, then I would have filled it out.

ique
05-08-2012, 05:05 PM
Have you ever used alcohol products while preparing or cooking BBQ meats, sauces, or side dishes?

:wave:

Rich Parker
05-08-2012, 05:31 PM
I filled it out and didn't see anything wrong with it.

Smoke'n Ice
05-08-2012, 06:23 PM
Have you ever used alcohol products while preparing or cooking BBQ meats, sauces, or side dishes?

:wave:

Are they wanting to know what percentage of bbq cooks drink? I don't think so but whoever worked this one out did not do any home work or listen to their inner self. When I first started in sales as a sales and applications engineer, I had it hammered into me that the customer, we as members of KCBS are customers, listen to only one radio station, WII FM (What's In It For Me). Maybe a little bit of sales to the membership should have occurred instead of us all guessing the motivation behind this poorly conceived and written survey.

AZScott
05-08-2012, 06:32 PM
Well that was easy. I don't see what the issue is. Sponsors make BBQ competitions happen and if this helps them get more partners and sponsors on board I'm all for it.

bbqbull
05-08-2012, 06:45 PM
I did not receive my survey, thoughts?

Smoke'n Ice
05-08-2012, 06:54 PM
Check your spam directory.

jcog44
05-08-2012, 07:24 PM
I got to the question about what kingsford product I would buy, and couldn't proceed without an answer (none, was not an option).

I voted with my keyboard and quit.

DawgPhan
05-08-2012, 08:02 PM
ahhh...bbq....damned if you do, damned if you dont.