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ThomEmery
04-16-2012, 08:43 AM
http://nationalbbqrankings.com/ranking/1/1

G$
04-16-2012, 08:54 AM
http://nationalbbqrankings.com/ranking/1/1

Funny that a team can be ranked 3rd in the KCBS TOY points list, but 86th in this one. (My only point being this ranking is not the same thing as the KCBS TOY standings. It is an entirely different metric and universe of samples)

DawgPhan
04-16-2012, 09:23 AM
Funny that a team can be ranked 3rd in the KCBS TOY points list, but 86th in this one. (My only point being this ranking is not the same thing as the KCBS TOY standings. It is an entirely different metric and universe of samples)


I dont think that it is trying to be the KCBS TOY or approximate the KCBS TOY standings in anyway. The National BBQ Rankings covers teams that compete in KCBS, FBA, GBA, MBN, and PNWBA events.

If Little Miss BBQ continues to have great weekends they will continue to climb in the National BBQ Rankings and will have another feather in their cap. I also think that top 100 out of more than 1400 teams is pretty awesome by itself. Congrats to Little Miss BBQ on an outstanding so far and best of luck the rest of the year.

musicmanryann
04-16-2012, 09:24 AM
Both are great, and I check out both on a regular basis. I'm a golf guy, and I see the nationalbbq rankings just like the world golf rankings, as it is more long-term and includes all the golf associations around the world. Whereas the KCBS TOY is like the FedEx Cup rankings, only following the current season and is only for the PGA Tour.

Scottie
04-16-2012, 09:28 AM
QUAU isn't a member, but reads here. Lets talk smack... Like his meteoric rise to the top after hanging out at the CSC BBQ Class.... he does make a good prime rib though. Otherwise that McDonald's chicken he makes should be served with a honey mustard sauce... ;)

That should get him to sign up....

deez butts
04-16-2012, 09:49 AM
The rankings seem to have a few issues. Our team is listed as coming in 6th at a comp we weren't at and other teams are listed instead of us at comps that we were at.

Ron_L
04-16-2012, 10:05 AM
The rankings seem to have a few issues. Our team is listed as coming in 6th at a comp we weren't at and other teams are listed instead of us at comps that we were at.

Send them an e-mail and they'll get it straightened out.

huminie
04-16-2012, 10:07 AM
I have found that site to be way too inaccurate to be reliable, and my attempts to try and get a few things straightened out were ignored so I gave up.

JD McGee
04-16-2012, 10:07 AM
Hmmm...we're not even on the list...guess we're not rank enough yet...:twisted:

DawgPhan
04-16-2012, 10:13 AM
Hmmm...we're not even on the list...guess we're not rank enough yet...:twisted:


http://nationalbbqrankings.com/ranking/team/8923

Is that your team? if there are contests that are missing the best way to get them addressed is to contact me through the facebook page. If you are missing PNWBA events I believe that those should be going in over the next couple of weeks since we just got someone setup to enter the PNWBA events.

G$
04-16-2012, 10:16 AM
I dont think that it is trying to be the KCBS TOY or approximate the KCBS TOY standings in anyway.

I think that is what I said.

Nordy
04-16-2012, 10:19 AM
The thing to remember here is this system looks at competitions over the past 104 weeks rolling. So if you sucked last year but are killing it this year, it may still take some time to move up...

JD McGee
04-16-2012, 10:35 AM
http://nationalbbqrankings.com/ranking/team/8923

Is that your team? if there are contests that are missing the best way to get them addressed is to contact me through the facebook page. If you are missing PNWBA events I believe that those should be going in over the next couple of weeks since we just got someone setup to enter the PNWBA events.

Cool...yep that's us...but we've never been to Richmond, CA, we were GC in Portland, OR not 8th...lol! Plus there are about 12 comps not listed...including the The Jack...freaky! :cool:

DawgPhan
04-16-2012, 10:54 AM
Cool...yep that's us...but we've never been to Richmond, CA, we were GC in Portland, OR not 8th...lol! Plus there are about 12 comps not listed...including the The Jack...freaky! :cool:


So the CA is actually Canada. I didnt anticipate Canadian events when I started and that is the work around.

I believe you did win the 2011 Canadian Festival of Chili & BBQ or at least that is what PNWBA has on their website.

I also have you as 1st overall in Portland and 8th in chicken.

If there are contests that are missing that are not PNWBA events please let me know and I would be happy to add them. I did check and I do have the Jack results listed though I did need to make it a bonus contest so I updating that now. However, I only track top 10 finishes in each category and the overall so you wouldn't have the Jack listed under your results if you didnt finish in the top 10 in any category.

Also a contest is only listed where it counts in the rankings. Meaning that if you finish 5th overall, but dont finish in the top 10 in chicken, the contest would be listed under overall, but not under chicken. The team pages are more of a way to see what contests are earning your points, rather than a list of contests that you competed at.

I dont think that this is the place to discuss further errors with the rankings though. I just thought could explain a little more about what is shown on the team pages in the context of your comments.

Butcher BBQ
04-16-2012, 05:53 PM
I have found that site to be way too inaccurate to be reliable, and my attempts to try and get a few things straightened out were ignored so I gave up.

I have sent several emails and even a PM. I have the same thing going on. They are missing all of my contest from September and October of last year, but they have some from this year.

Rich Parker
04-16-2012, 07:11 PM
QUAU isn't a member, but reads here. Lets talk smack... Like his meteoric rise to the top after hanging out at the CSC BBQ Class.... he does make a good prime rib though. Otherwise that McDonald's chicken he makes should be served with a honey mustard sauce... ;)

That should get him to sign up....

I did see Mike give Beth "a look" when you started on your pork process. It was pretty clear what he meant. Just Saying :tsk:

Scottie
04-16-2012, 08:35 PM
Rich, he became pork cook of the year in KCBS... Coincidence? And he is busy reading all of these messages and texting me, so it's perfect... Hahaha honey mustard chicken... :mrgreen:

I for one applaud the work that goes in to running these sites. It's a ton of work and my hats off for trying.

daveinwestmont
04-16-2012, 10:44 PM
It's not accurate, at least for my results. They called me Muddy Butts BBQ for Willowbrook,IL last year and had some diffrent team winning chicken in Arthur, IL last fall, (which I did), but listed me in the overall results.

Oh well, maybe KCBS will see that they need to maintain an accurate database to track activity!!!!

Rich Parker
04-17-2012, 05:42 AM
Rich, he became pork cook of the year in KCBS... Coincidence? And he is busy reading all of these messages and texting me, so it's perfect... Hahaha honey mustard chicken... :mrgreen:

I for one applaud the work that goes in to running these sites. It's a ton of work and my hats off for trying.

Mike was telling me in Silver Lake how he was trying to have the meat monster imitate a pellet cooker... I think the facts are speaking loudly.

Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2

Scottie
04-17-2012, 08:19 AM
Mike was telling me in Silver Lake how he was trying to have the meat monster imitate a pellet cooker... I think the facts are speaking loudly.

Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2



Ahhhh. A voice of reason.

CBQ
04-17-2012, 09:38 AM
I like that someone is trying to capture this, since BBQBUG no longer is, and KCBS seems to be throwing in the towel, but it IS inaccurate. No contests after August 2011 show up for our team, so we are missing some key results including a GC in our scoring.

huminie
04-17-2012, 10:49 AM
It is certainly an honorable endeavor, and is no doubt difficult to pull off. Even more so to make accurate. But the reality is that if the data isn't accurate, there isn't much value and all the effort is wasted. If teams can't trust that the data is reasonably accurate then it won't be trusted as a source of quality information.

From my personal experience, emails to get data corrected went unanswered and were not acted upon. I could only assume that the site was not being actively maintained so I moved on. If there is a better way to provide information in a way that it can be actionable, then I would be more than willing to put the effort in to provide it. Based on the number of teams reporting issues, and my own research of teams I know of, there is a ton of work to be done before the site can be considered a reliable resource of information. If the owners have a renewed commitment then please let us know how we can help.

It would be great to have site like this that we could trust. I hope this site gets there eventually.

Jorge
04-17-2012, 11:48 AM
Rich, he became pork cook of the year in KCBS... Coincidence? And he is busy reading all of these messages and texting me, so it's perfect... Hahaha honey mustard chicken... :mrgreen:

I for one applaud the work that goes in to running these sites. It's a ton of work and my hats off for trying.

Hey Q.U.A.U., if you want to even it up you can just text me Scottie's recipes.....:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Scottie
04-17-2012, 12:37 PM
Hey Q.U.A.U., if you want to even it up you can just text me Scottie's recipes.....:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:


According to Mike, I use Prego on my chicken. I personally like Prego better than McDonald's honey mustard sauce....

DawgPhan
04-17-2012, 07:26 PM
If there are missing contests for your team and you would like it corrected the fastest way to make that happen would be to send me the missing contest in the following format.

This is an example of a contest I am about to enter. You can copy and paste the printable version from KCBS and do some cleaning up. please then email me the information in a plain text file along with an email with your team name and what contests you are updating.

If you feel particularly charitable and would like to send contests that you did not attend that would be great as well. You can email me @ nationalbbqrankings@gmail.com

Aksarben River City Rodeo & Stock Show BBQ Contest
Omaha, NE
09/23/2011 - 09/24/2011


Overall
1 Swine Assassins
2 Phat Jacks
3 The Smoking Hills
4 Spitfire
5 Woodward Barbeque
6 Grills Gone Wild
7 Leep's BBQ
8 Butler Center BBQ
9 Big T'z Q Cru
10 Truebud BBQ

Chicken
1 Grills Gone Wild
2 Leep's BBQ
3 Truebud BBQ
4 Butler Center BBQ
5 Kev's Chew Chew BBQ
6 Smokehouse 72
7 Quiet Riot
8 Swine Assassins
9 Big Stacks BBQ
10 Tattoo Bob's Bar-B-Q

Ribs
1 The Smoking Hills
2 Flying Wrench Smok'n Pit
3 Swine Assassins
4 Woodward Barbeque
5 Spitfire
6 Omaha's Blowin' Smoke
7 Iowa Outlaw's BBQ
8 Bubba Q's
9 Big T'z Q Cru
10 Simple Dick's

Pork
1 Phat Jacks
2 Spitfire
3 Swine Assassins
4 Bubba Q's
5 Iowa Outlaw's BBQ
6 Woodward Barbeque
7 Big T'z Q Cru
8 Freddies Firebox
9 Butler Center BBQ
10 The Smoking Hills

Brisket
1 The Smoking Hills
2 Swine Assassins
3 Phat Jacks
4 Grills Gone Wild
5 Lucky's Q
6 Pork Patrol BBQ
7 Iowa Outlaw's BBQ
8 Tattoo Bob's Bar-B-Q
9 Leep's BBQ
10 Big T'z Q Cru

DawgPhan
04-18-2012, 07:47 PM
So I apologize if I wasnt clear, but copying and pasting the printable results from the KCBS website is just the start of the process. I need scores, periods, and extra teams removed from the results as well.

So instead of

1. teamname - score

I would get

1 teamname

I certainly appreciate everyone sending in corrections, but sending the names without removing the scores doesnt really help that much. KCBS adding the scores to their results really threw a monkey wrench into the rankings since that information has to be removed before I can parse the names.

Also if anyone who is a board member or knows a board member or maybe previous worked in an IT capacity for KCBS could help me get the results without the score information that would really speed things up.

Anyway, thanks and let me know if you have any questions.

dmprantz
04-18-2012, 08:02 PM
Removing the scores is rediculously simple to automate. Same with periods after the place.

dmp

Butcher BBQ
04-18-2012, 09:43 PM
Well it took me an hour to redo , I can understand why it was requested to be done.

DawgPhan
04-19-2012, 08:40 AM
Removing the scores is rediculously simple to automate. Same with periods after the place.

dmp


Are you volunteering?

Jorge
04-19-2012, 01:43 PM
I like that someone is trying to capture this, since BBQBUG no longer is, and KCBS seems to be throwing in the towel, but it IS inaccurate. No contests after August 2011 show up for our team, so we are missing some key results including a GC in our scoring.

Speaking solely for myself, not for KCBS or the board....

Either I haven't expressed myself clearly enough, or you have information that I do not being a member of the board.

KCBS is not "throwing in the towel". It is our intent to accomplish the task. To accomplish that task tomorrow would require resources that would take time away that are currently devoted to other tasks that benefit members today.

I get it, I'd like to see it yesterday too. We've looked at the issue, including the responsibility that comes with it which IS greater for KCBS than other third parties that have done it in the past, are currently attempting to do it, or that may attempt to do it in the future.

Those are the facts.

dmprantz
04-19-2012, 02:29 PM
Are you volunteering?

I'm leaving it as an exercise to the reader.

dmp

DawgPhan
04-19-2012, 02:37 PM
I'm leaving it as an exercise to the reader.

dmp


why am I not surprised.

Big Poppa
04-19-2012, 02:52 PM
I read these and felt like our team ate a giant bad chili dog...then I saw kcbs and felt better....I applaud the effort and Im sure it will get running more smoothly.

deez butts
04-19-2012, 03:54 PM
Removing the scores is rediculously simple to automate. Same with periods after the place.

dmp


I'm leaving it as an exercise to the reader.

dmp


Instead of just blabbing about how easy it is why don't you help the guy out or point him in the direction of a solution?

DawgPhan
I don't know what language you are using to parse the data but you can find one of these handy dandy regular expression testers for java, perl or whatver and test out your regex.


http://www.roblocher.com/technotes/regexp.aspx (http://www.roblocher.com/technotes/regexp.aspx)

dmprantz
04-19-2012, 03:58 PM
Instead of just blabbing about how easy it is why don't you help the guy out or point him in the direction of a solution?


I tend to not help people who make threats of physical violence towards me.

dmp

deez butts
04-19-2012, 04:13 PM
I tend to not help people who make threats of physical violence towards me.

dmp

I didn't see any threats in this thread so I'm going to assume it was from something else. I do not know nor do I care what, where or when. However, if that is the case then why respond at all to this thread just to tell the guy how easy it is? It seems like a pointless exercise and adds nothing to the conversation.

Funtimebbq
04-19-2012, 05:21 PM
I read these and felt like our team ate a giant bad chili dog...then I saw kcbs and felt better....I applaud the effort and Im sure it will get running more smoothly.

I sent info from Vista (8-11), Dana Point, and both Knott's contest as these seemed to be missing. That should help Big Poppa's Smokers as well as Funtime BBQ. Didn't do the others because Funtime was not competing or had no top 10s.

Benny

DawgPhan
04-25-2012, 07:10 AM
If you are going to take the time to send me results please make sure that I am missing the results before you go through the effort. Also please remember that each contest will only appear when you have a top 10 finish in that category. So if you didn't place in the top 10 overall, but did get a chicken call the contest would appear under chicken and not under overall.

Thanks to everyone who has sent in results. I think that i have addressed most everything that came through the facebook page and I am slowly working through emails. Making sure that I am actually missing something before you send it will speed up the process since I wont be chasing down mistakes that aren't there. Also please pay attention to the formatting.

Thanks..oh and the rankings were updated. Pellet Envy moved back into the top 20 with their first grand of the year and Quau stays in the top spot. Hope everyone is enjoying the rankings.

musicmanryann
04-25-2012, 08:20 AM
If you are going to take the time to send me results please make sure that I am missing the results before you go through the effort. Also please remember that each contest will only appear when you have a top 10 finish in that category. So if you didn't place in the top 10 overall, but did get a chicken call the contest would appear under chicken and not under overall.

Thanks to everyone who has sent in results. I think that i have addressed most everything that came through the facebook page and I am slowly working through emails. Making sure that I am actually missing something before you send it will speed up the process since I wont be chasing down mistakes that aren't there. Also please pay attention to the formatting.

Thanks..oh and the rankings were updated. Pellet Envy moved back into the top 20 with their first grand of the year and Quau stays in the top spot. Hope everyone is enjoying the rankings.

Thanks for all the hard work you guys are putting in to this! :thumb:

Balls Casten
04-25-2012, 08:56 AM
First thank you to all those putting time into this. It is obvious that in its present state it is very time consuming.

As Jorge said the real answer is to have this done right from the start which will take a lot more resources than is available now. So looking at how to make it easier right now …

Can contest results be posted on a this forum in a format that will import to the rankings database?

If so .. why not have users post , under a new sub-forum, that they are formating a contest. Then they follow up by posting the contest results in a format that works for those imputing numbers into the rankings. It would then be available for all to see and post a reply if there are any corrections. That way corrections are done before they are posted to the ranking and it puts the time consumming work into the hands of those that have it available or have it available that week.

Balls Casten
04-25-2012, 11:33 AM
OK here is a formula to remove periods, dashes and scores from the KCBS site in excel.
First paste the results from KCBS site into column A in excel. Then paste this formula into column B.


=SUBSTITUTE(LEFT(A1,SEARCH("-",A1)-1),".","")

Balls Casten
04-25-2012, 11:45 AM
Overall Ames 4/21/2012 ...


1 Big T'z Q Cru
2 TippyCanoe BBQ Crew
3 Swine Assassins
4 Smokers Purgatory
5 Midnight Smokers
6 Templeton Rye Woodfellas
7 Lucky's Q
8 Smokey D's Wannabee's
9 4 Dry Pigs
10 Spitfire
11 Smokehouse 72
12 Iowa State Grill Team
13 Mark's Smokin Que
14 Boyle's KC BBQ
15 Woodward Barbeque
16 Honeybadger BBQ
17 Brown Chicken Brown Cow
18 Gothic Town Grillers
19 QU Smokin' Krewe
20 Zs Smokin Bones
21 2 Shay BBQ
22 IOWA OUTLAWS BBQ
23 Sweet Thing Bar-B-Que
24 Rebel Fire Que'n Company
25 Two Little Pigs BBQ
26 Iowa Wild Hogs BBQ
27 Hooligan's
28 Jaestar BBQ
29 Ole Barn BBQ
30 Barbecue Thief




Can not post from excel and have the list apear but if you post it into word then the forum .. it works???
How to post from excel into forum???

Scottie
04-25-2012, 12:47 PM
I tend to not help people who make threats of physical violence towards me.

dmp


Must not be a dawg fan.....

dmprantz
04-25-2012, 01:03 PM
I can't help myself from finding ways to solve problems....

=TRIM(REPLACE(REPLACE(A1,FIND(CHAR(1),SUBSTITUTE(A 1,"-",CHAR(1),LEN(A1)-LEN(SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-","")))), LEN(A1)-FIND(CHAR(1),SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-",CHAR(1),LEN(A1)-1-LEN(SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-","")))), ""),FIND(".", A1), 1, ""))

Only removes the first "." and everything including and after the last "-".

DawgPhan
05-15-2012, 07:33 PM
I can't help myself from finding ways to solve problems....

=TRIM(REPLACE(REPLACE(A1,FIND(CHAR(1),SUBSTITUTE(A 1,"-",CHAR(1),LEN(A1)-LEN(SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-","")))), LEN(A1)-FIND(CHAR(1),SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-",CHAR(1),LEN(A1)-1-LEN(SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-","")))), ""),FIND(".", A1), 1, ""))

Only removes the first "." and everything including and after the last "-".


finally got around to trying this and I can't get it to work. I have attached my test file to play around with it.

any thoughts?

Pigs on Fire
05-15-2012, 07:54 PM
Can we just sub it out to India?

DawgPhan
05-15-2012, 07:56 PM
Can we just sub it out to India?

that is probably a much better solution.

dmprantz
05-15-2012, 09:01 PM
Yeah, the one I posted worked great with team names had a had a dash in them...the point was to only remove the last one. Here's one that works with team names with and without dashes. It worked great on the testing spreadsheet (in Excel 2010), and it's a little bit shorter to boot. It takes some shortcuts, but it's good enough for this project.

=TRIM(REPLACE(MID(A1,1,FIND(CHAR(1),SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-",CHAR(1),LEN(A1)-LEN(SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-",""))))-1), FIND(".", A1), 1, ""))

dmp

DawgPhan
05-16-2012, 09:18 AM
Yeah, the one I posted worked great with team names had a had a dash in them...the point was to only remove the last one. Here's one that works with team names with and without dashes. It worked great on the testing spreadsheet (in Excel 2010), and it's a little bit shorter to boot. It takes some shortcuts, but it's good enough for this project.

=TRIM(REPLACE(MID(A1,1,FIND(CHAR(1),SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-",CHAR(1),LEN(A1)-LEN(SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-",""))))-1), FIND(".", A1), 1, ""))

dmp


that works great. thanks.

Balls Casten
06-04-2012, 10:33 AM
Is there anything we can do to help keep this going?

DawgPhan
06-05-2012, 02:05 PM
Well there is always the option of sending me the cleaned results in a text file for any missing contests. We are currently working on updating the rankings for the last couple of weekends. Real life got in the way with vacation and 3 contests in 4 weeks so we got a little behind.

I have been thinking about moving to more of a crowd sourcing model for getting the results in, but that still requires some more thought and then will need development time and money. Anyway, there have been quite a few contests added today and we will continue working to get the rest added.

thanks for checking out the website.

DawgPhan
06-05-2012, 02:14 PM
Also a quick side note...this weekend in Marietta my team was entered as Kudzu BBQ instead of Kudzu Q. Which means that it went into the website as Kudzu BBQ instead of Kudzu Q, so I had to go and fix my own team's results because of it being entered weird in the scoring program. If your name appears differently each contest your NBR rankings are never going to be accurate. If that is you, just remember to check with the rep on friday to make sure it is entered the way you want it.

Sauced!
06-05-2012, 08:35 PM
what about missing contests from the past? how do we get those updates done? i submitted an email on the site but it appeared it errored out when i clicked submit.

DawgPhan
06-06-2012, 08:50 AM
what about missing contests from the past? how do we get those updates done? i submitted an email on the site but it appeared it errored out when i clicked submit.


best way to reach me is either through the facebook page for NBR or through nationalbbqrankings@gmail.com

I might not respond, but I will take a look at the issue as time allows.

thanks.

Chad

DawgPhan
06-25-2012, 07:55 AM
I have had some people ask for a team search function and I am trying to get an idea of how everyone would want that to work.

A couple of options are if you are on the overall rankings page it would search the overall rankings and highlight your name. same with the other rankings. Sort of a beefed up ctrl+f feature.

Another option would be that you search your team name from anywhere and it takes you to the team page which has all your rankings on it?

Which way would you rather it work?

BMinahan
06-25-2012, 08:15 AM
I emailed you a month ago about moving our scores to our correct team name. I know you are busy and I don't want to "pester" you.

From: Bill Minahan
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:38 PM
To: 'nationalbbqrankings@gmail.com'
Subject: My Team

Hi.
Great job on your site. However, we are listed twice.
Que and One Half Men <> Que and A Half Men

The correct listing should be Que and a Half Men.

Please combine the scores. Regards.

Nordy
06-25-2012, 09:15 AM
I think it'd be great just to be able to search a team name and then click on that result to pull up the team page...

DawgPhan
06-25-2012, 09:47 AM
I emailed you a month ago about moving our scores to our correct team name. I know you are busy and I don't want to "pester" you.

From: Bill Minahan
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:38 PM
To: 'nationalbbqrankings@gmail.com'
Subject: My Team

Hi.
Great job on your site. However, we are listed twice.
Que and One Half Men <> Que and A Half Men

The correct listing should be Que and a Half Men.

Please combine the scores. Regards.


I merged the two teams. Thanks.

Also a reminder if you see that your team name is not exactly the same every time you compete, you should check with the reps on friday @ the cooks meeting to make sure that they have it right in the scoring program. Otherwise there will continue to be problems with your rankings. Just a PSA for everyone. It has even happened to my team.

Pigs on Fire
06-25-2012, 09:54 AM
I think it'd be great just to be able to search a team name and then click on that result to pull up the team page...

That's Easy. Go to http://www.nationalbbqrankings.com/ranking

Scroll to the bottom. Click >>Show All Teams<<

After it loads, hit CTRL+F to bring up the small search box in the lower left of your screen. Type some of the team name.

For example, you type in "The Gra", your screen will go to "The Grateful Pig" and it will be highlighted. Click on that team and all their history is there with their rankings.

JD McGee
06-25-2012, 10:01 AM
Wow! Not many of our competitions have been submitted...we show 3 out of 14 for last year...and 1 out of 5 for this year...oh well...so much for that. :tsk:

DawgPhan
06-25-2012, 10:20 AM
Wow! Not many of our competitions have been submitted...we show 3 out of 14 for last year...and 1 out of 5 for this year...oh well...so much for that. :tsk:


Are you missing KCBS or PNWBA events?

JD McGee
06-25-2012, 10:33 AM
Are you missing KCBS or PNWBA events?

Both...

DawgPhan
06-25-2012, 10:44 AM
Both...


Do you want to tell me or should I try guessing?

JD McGee
06-25-2012, 11:48 AM
Do you want to tell me or should I try guessing?

Lol! Sorry...I didn't know you wanted the list...here you go...:becky:

KCBS...2011

Orleans Casino USA BBQ Championship
http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2011&month=5&id=2962

The Jack
http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2011&month=10&id=3129

KCBS 2012

ACM BBQ Throwdown
http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2012&month=3&id=3546

PNWBA...

2011 results can be found here... http://www.pnwba.com/results_page.htm

Missing 2011 Comps...

Australia Day
Pacific Northwest BBQ Championship (Rose Festival)
McKinley Springs BBQ Showdown
Aloha Thriftway Classic
Cheney Jubilee BBQ Championship
Chehalis (Cascade Country Cookoff)
Whistler (Canadian National BBQ Championship)
Stevensville Creamery Picnic
Evergreen State BBQ Championship
Treetop Skewered Apple (Yakima)

Missing 2012 Comps... results are here...http://www.pnwba.com/ under the show all events and results link


Washington State Spring BBQ ChampionshipApril 28 -29, 2012Monroe, WA
1st Annual Cloverdale Cowboy Cook-OffMay 19 - 20, 2012Cloverdale, BC
OR State Championship BBQ CompetitionJune 16 - 17, 2012Aloha, OR
BC Festival of Chili and BBQJune 23 - 24, 2012Langley, BC

DawgPhan
06-25-2012, 12:03 PM
Lol! Sorry...I didn't know you wanted the list...here you go...:becky:

KCBS...2011

Orleans Casino USA BBQ Championship
http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2011&month=5&id=2962




http://nationalbbqrankings.com/contest/show_contest/1733


The Jack
http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2011&month=10&id=3129http://nationalbbqrankings.com/contest/show_contest/1974



KCBS 2012

ACM BBQ Throwdown
http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2012&month=3&id=3546http://nationalbbqrankings.com/contest/show_contest/2006



I am still trying to get all the kinks ironed out the PNWBA results and have them enter their results directly into the website. Just a reminder that you will only be listed at a contest when you finish in the top 10 in a category or the overall. So for example while you did compete at the Las Vegas contest in May 2011 you didnt finish in the top 10 in any category so the contest would not be listed on your team page. You did finish 11th in pork though so congrats, I am sure that was a paid walk at that event.

Pelkster
06-25-2012, 02:08 PM
I just took a look and my team is listed twice. It should be KC and the Smokeshack Band. I am also listed as KC & the SmokeShack Band. Can you merge the two into the first one? Thanks for all of the hard work you do on this site!

dhuffjr
06-25-2012, 03:07 PM
I sent an email today. One team listed on our page in error. Smokin' vs Scramblin and with questions on missing contests.

HarleyGirl14226
06-26-2012, 08:58 AM
The 5th Artery is missing three contests - Can they be added?

Brockport 7/30/11 - 7/31/11
http://kcbs.us/events.php?year=2011&month=7&id=2792

Taste of Country Buffalo 8/5/11 - 8/6/11
http://kcbs.us/events.php?year=2011&month=8&id=3037

Oinktoberfest 9/23/11 - 9/24/11
http://kcbs.us/events.php?year=2011&month=9&id=2918

BMinahan
06-27-2012, 06:38 AM
Thanks for updating. I will be sure that our name in the future is correct.

Bill Minahan
Que and a Half Men

deez butts
06-27-2012, 12:07 PM
Our team is missing some results as well.

Rochester NY 26/May/2012 The listing has The Half Chickens in 5th place. It was Pork Butt & Chicken Legs in 5th place.

Eliot ME 13/Aug/2011 the listing has 10th place ribs as The Half Chickens and it was Pork Butt & Chicken Legs.
Eliot ME 13/Aug/2011 the listing has 1st place pork as The Half Chickens and it was Pork Butt & Chicken Legs.

nukenight
06-27-2012, 12:54 PM
This ranking system only counts KCBS and Florida type of contests. For all the great cooks who participate a Texas-style event, like those sanctioned by IBCA, Texas Gulf Coast, Lonestar, etc., this system leaves them totally out in the cold. Just in the last 13 months, I won a contest and finished in the top 5 two other times and my team is nowhere to be found on this list. Frankly, this ranking system has no meaning because it organically leaves off cooks who participate in Texas-based events. Frankly, you need to include cooks who participate in contests sanctioned by all organizations in a national ranking. Otherwise, this ranking system is basically meaningless.

DawgPhan
06-27-2012, 07:08 PM
This ranking system only counts KCBS and Florida type of contests. For all the great cooks who participate a Texas-style event, like those sanctioned by IBCA, Texas Gulf Coast, Lonestar, etc., this system leaves them totally out in the cold. Just in the last 13 months, I won a contest and finished in the top 5 two other times and my team is nowhere to be found on this list. Frankly, this ranking system has no meaning because it organically leaves off cooks who participate in Texas-based events. Frankly, you need to include cooks who participate in contests sanctioned by all organizations in a national ranking. Otherwise, this ranking system is basically meaningless.


Honestly, everyone I have ever had the pleasure of meeting who competes in Texas and spoken with about the National BBQ Rankings has acted exactly the way you have.

I always tell them that I would love to include other sanctioning bodies in the rankings if I can get some help entering those results.

I have yet to have anyone offer to assist me in entering these results. I am just one guy spending his own money and time to try and do something neat for competition BBQ. I can't be all things to all people. Sorry you find the rankings meaningless....I kinda like em.

for the record, I include KCBS, FBA, GBA, MBN, and PWNBA (when I can get it sorted) I am pretty sure I have a sanctioned event from every state, including texas in the rankings and teams from across the country. I feel pretty good about calling it the National BBQ Rankings.

Sauced!
06-27-2012, 08:44 PM
Our team is missing results from a contest last year.

Carolina Smoke Off Gastonia, NC

http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2011&month=10&id=2830

Sauced! BBQ
1st in pork, 6th in chicken and 10th overall.

DawgPhan
06-28-2012, 07:43 AM
I would prefer that if you have missing contests you email them to me @ nationalbbqrankings@gmail.com

If I dont answer your email immediately, dont fret. I am going through emails and making corrections. I will get to it eventually. By posting here I might not see it, or I might forget about it once it gets bumped to another page. If I have an email it is there staring at me until it gets fixed.

thanks

DawgPhan
07-26-2012, 10:29 AM
So I have been pulling some stats from the database that I think are kinda interesting. Thought that I would mention it in case anyone missed it on facebook.

Most chicken, ribs, pork, brisket, Grands, and total wins since 2006. I published the top 5 on facebook and the top 25 on the nationalbbqrankings.com homepage.

The thing that stood out the most to me was Pellet Envy and Lotta Bull both have 37 grands since 2006. That is nearly averaging a Jack Auto every year for 6 years.

http://nationalbbqrankings.com/

Kit R
07-26-2012, 10:47 AM
I would prefer that if you have missing contests you email them to me @ nationalbbqrankings@gmail.com

If I dont answer your email immediately, dont fret. I am going through emails and making corrections. I will get to it eventually. By posting here I might not see it, or I might forget about it once it gets bumped to another page. If I have an email it is there staring at me until it gets fixed.

thanks

I'm from Texas but live in Virginia and compete in the mid-Atlantic. I really appreciate the time and effort you've put into this undertaking. Got a few missing ones myself I'll email to you. Keep up the great work.

Plowboy
07-26-2012, 02:58 PM
So I have been pulling some stats from the database that I think are kinda interesting. Thought that I would mention it in case anyone missed it on facebook.

Most chicken, ribs, pork, brisket, Grands, and total wins since 2006. I published the top 5 on facebook and the top 25 on the nationalbbqrankings.com homepage.

The thing that stood out the most to me was Pellet Envy and Lotta Bull both have 37 grands since 2006. That is nearly averaging a Jack Auto every year for 6 years.

http://nationalbbqrankings.com/

That is why those guys are at the top of the game. Really enjoyed your analysis on the Top 25 list. I believe we just missed out on the top Grand Championships list. By my count, we should have 13 for KCBS and a couple more for non-KCBS. Far from 37, though.

Other factors that don't jump out from just the top 25 rankings are the number of contests cooked to achieve the numbers. In comparison, I cook about 3/4 of the same number of contests as some of the teams on the list. Slap Yo Daddy didn't start until after 2006, I believe. He's running those numbers on a full year or two less than others on the list. I'm sure there are other examples of what I'm talking about. Fun to look at, though. Nice work. :clap2:

I was surprised that we didn't make the pork list with the strong pork years we had in 2008-2009 and equally surprised that we made the list in brisket. I didn't realize we had that many brisket wins over those years. Sometimes you just keep doing this and don't see the forest for the trees until someone points it out. Assumptions that we or others have of our performance (or the performance of others) can be misguided by perception, good or bad, and not by the factual numbers. Interesting stuff indeed.

Podge
07-26-2012, 03:16 PM
That is why those guys are at the top of the game. Really enjoyed your analysis on the Top 25 list. I believe we just missed out on the top Grand Championships list. By my count, we should have 13 for KCBS and a couple more for non-KCBS. Far from 37, though.

Other factors that don't jump out from just the top 25 rankings are the number of contests cooked to achieve the numbers. In comparison, I cook about 3/4 of the same number of contests as some of the teams on the list. Slap Yo Daddy didn't start until after 2006, I believe. He's running those numbers on a full year or two less than others on the list. I'm sure there are other examples of what I'm talking about. Fun to look at, though. Nice work. :clap2:

I was surprised that we didn't make the pork list with the strong pork years we had in 2008-2009 and equally surprised that we made the list in brisket. I didn't realize we had that many brisket wins over those years. Sometimes you just keep doing this and don't see the forest for the trees until someone points it out. Assumptions that we or others have of our performance (or the performance of others) can be misguided by perception, good or bad, and not by the factual numbers. Interesting stuff indeed.

If I had one more brisket win, and I'd be tied with Scottie for 25th. I've got 30 contests in since my first, 1st in brisket in 2007. I wish I could've done more contests like a lot of you guys.

DawgPhan
07-26-2012, 04:30 PM
I was looking at some sort of winning percentage metric the other night. I have to do some more digging on that one. I also want to look at the traveling teams compared to teams that mainly win in a particular state. But I think it is interesting to see how things shake out. I really didn't expect Pellet Envy and Lotta Bull to have the most Grands. I thought that it would be Jack's Old South. Anyway, fun stuff. Glad you guys have enjoyed it.

Shady
07-26-2012, 04:38 PM
I got a 15th in a comp in Oklahoma that we never went to, I think it helped my rating.

DawgPhan
09-14-2012, 01:07 PM
Just noticed that the National BBQ Rankings got a mention in the Bullsheet this month. They did a article on Rub and mentioned the rankings among his many accolades.

I can't confirm it, but I believe that Rub also holds the record for highest point total in the rankings history. I know he was up there. Pretty sure he was over 700 at one point and might have gotten close to 800 points. That is pretty impressive.

Anyway, thanks Rub for the mention, I thought that it was pretty cool when I read it.

JD McGee
09-14-2012, 01:22 PM
Thanks for the hard work! I see our KCBS cooks are in there but we are still missing 6 PNWBA cooks...

Rub
09-17-2012, 04:03 PM
Just noticed that the National BBQ Rankings got a mention in the Bullsheet this month. They did a article on Rub and mentioned the rankings among his many accolades.

I can't confirm it, but I believe that Rub also holds the record for highest point total in the rankings history. I know he was up there. Pretty sure he was over 700 at one point and might have gotten close to 800 points. That is pretty impressive.

Anyway, thanks Rub for the mention, I thought that it was pretty cool when I read it.

Thanks Chad, Michael McDearman did a great job on the article.
Did you see my email about the last FBA contest?