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Meat Man
03-06-2012, 10:22 PM
We are a new team and have been using MAK pellet grills for competition. They are a fantastic piece of equipment. Dependable, consistent heat, and the smoke output is great. We are looking to move up to a larger grill (probably the new MAK 4 Star). FE seems to be the most popular pellet grill used for competition, though there are some other manufactures that are making pellet grills that would be great for comps, most notably Yoder. Is there anything else we should be looking at.

AZScott
03-06-2012, 10:53 PM
Will, I love the FEC 100. It has 4 shelves that can fit full hotel pans, is dependable, uses 2/3 a 20# bag of pellets per comp, you can cook all your meats on it, and it's easy to put in the bed of a truck. I don't know of another pellet smoker I would use for comps since I like the fact the FEC is vertical and has a small footprint.

If you want to chat email or pm me.

LoneStar Smoke Rangers
03-06-2012, 10:56 PM
If you have to go with a pooper, for competition, you will not beat the FEC 100 and FEC 120 for pellet smokers.

GQue
03-06-2012, 11:04 PM
Just something to consider along with the other good suggestions - Memphis is coming out with an elite that is much larger than the pro sometime this year should be about the same price as an FEC100

djqualls
03-06-2012, 11:07 PM
Will, I love the FEC 100. It has 4 shelves that can fit full hotel pans, is dependable, uses 2/3 a 20# bag of pellets per comp, you can cook all your meats on it, and it's easy to put in the bed of a truck. I don't know of another pellet smoker I would use for comps since I like the fact the FEC is vertical and has a small footprint.

If you want to chat email or pm me.


+1
What Scott said

Ron_L
03-06-2012, 11:16 PM
The request is for a recommendation for a pellet grill, but so far most of the responses are recommending a pellet smoker, not a grill.

Meat Man, are you looking for a recommendation for a grill or a smoker?

Meat Man
03-06-2012, 11:43 PM
We are looking for a dedicated comp pellet smoker.

route66
03-07-2012, 02:06 AM
If I had a choice I would follow Scott's advice as the FEC100 works great for me and better for Scott. Look at the KCBS TOY Standings and Scott and his beautiful Wife are tops in the Nation having placed 2 Reserve Grand and a Grand Championship in their last three Competitions against some Great Teams. The FEC100 is a nice smoker and will make your Q more consistent. I do like the Mak for grilling.

SmokinGuitarPlayer
03-07-2012, 08:33 AM
Meat Man ...if you decide on a FEC100 you should contact me by IM . I have a display model that we need to "turn" . FB/SGP

Meat Man
03-07-2012, 08:56 AM
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

BC Squared
03-07-2012, 09:25 AM
Wish you were closer to KC SGP!

SmokinGuitarPlayer
03-07-2012, 10:00 AM
EASY SHIP ON PALLET STILL GOOD DEAL interested IM me .

Muzzlebrake
03-07-2012, 10:48 AM
I've been using an FEC for a few years now, no complaints at all that I can think of. Dependable, reliable and consitant and easy to clean and maintain.

I have also now have a Yoder 640 that I plan on using as this year too. So far I really like the Yoder too. It's maybe a little more versatile, I can crank up the heat and grill or sear something if I need to. Very solid and well built unit. I am very impressed at how well it seems to hold heat and recover temps.

HarleyGirl14226
03-07-2012, 11:29 AM
Really interested in what you decide on Meat Man... We also compete on a MAK 2 Star plus 2 22" WSM's and were looking to expand into either a Yoder 640 or another MAK. Have you heard anything on when the MAK 4 Star is going to become available?

Meat Man
03-07-2012, 11:40 AM
Spoke with MAK yesterday, 10 - 12 weeks. After experiencing a grease fire last weekend, looking hard at the FEC 120.

AZScott
03-07-2012, 11:47 AM
In front of the fire marshall no less. :clap:

Will, I think it was David Bouska that mentioned that one issue with the 120 is that the convection produces a slightly drier exterior of the meat. I think that was mentioned over on the Cookshack forum but I don't have any first hand experience with it. It's entirely your call but the 100 is a proven smoker while the 120 is still a new product. Plus the 100 is quite a bit less expensive.

Meat Man
03-07-2012, 12:03 PM
Yea, thats a big fan up top. Have you any experience with their smaller smokers?

Big Poppa
03-07-2012, 12:20 PM
Will we cook on MAK one stars and never had a grease fire...we were 22nd in chick and 25 in pork with 17 cooks for 2011...We still love them...If you had a grease fire are you sure that your pit was clean....Sorry you had the troubles!

BTW Fred..... Meat Man is a retailer himself.

AZScott
03-07-2012, 12:38 PM
Yea, thats a big fan up top. Have you any experience with their smaller smokers?

Nope. The 100 is the smallest pellet smoker they have. The other ones use an electrical heating element.

Nordy
03-07-2012, 02:49 PM
I don't own one but I've had product off of a FEC 120. Is is drier? Maybe... I didn't notice a significant difference. Maybe what I cook in my FEC100 is dry... haha!

The 120 is a very even cooking chamber and it supposedly recovers well after opening the door. If you happen to see the Cookshack team at a contest, Stuart is going to cook on a 120 this year.

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SmokinOkie
03-07-2012, 03:30 PM
... Have you any experience with their smaller smokers?

Are you asking about their FE Pellet Grills? FEPG500 & FEPG1000

I have the FEPG1000, so it does a great job as a multi-task grill/smoker. I do pizza's on it, I'll smoke just one rack of ribs when I don't want to fire up the FE100.

I'd ask, what are you wanting to use it for? Think categories and capacity.

There is a direct side for the hot heat and an indirect side for smoking, baking etc.

Any specific questions I'll try to help.

Meat Man
03-07-2012, 03:39 PM
Hey BP we just ran out of room, had 2 butts and 2 18lb packers on the one star, one of our foil wrapped butts had a leak and dripped down onto the brisket and into the fire pot somehow. We'll use a foil pan next time. One thing about the new MAK flame zone pan it's solid and slips into the body.

Big Poppa
03-07-2012, 05:34 PM
Did anyone notice Meat Man slip in that he gets 18 pound packers? Show off!

GreenDrake
03-07-2012, 05:54 PM
Did anyone notice Meat Man slip in that he gets 18 pound packers? Show off!

Snake River sent me a comp case of packers last year for the Skewered Apple in Yakima....both were over 20lbs. Biggest dang packers I have ever seen.

Shake'nBake
03-07-2012, 06:11 PM
Pg 500 or pg 1000 if you want a grill and smoker on the same pit. Fec100 is hard to beat for a comp smoker. Memphis are higher maintenance as far as keeping them clean.

Balls Casten
03-08-2012, 07:58 AM
New Yoder480 here and love it after only 3 cooks.

MrWenzel
03-08-2012, 11:40 AM
I had a pellet smoker and had to send it back. So I've been trying to make the same decision as you. You hear the good and the bad about a lot of pellet smokers. So it is hard to figure out what we should buy. I understand where you are coming from as to how hard it is to pick the right one. I'm really leaning towards getting a FEC 100. I like the size of it for holding a lot more meat then the smaller grills. The FEC 100 doesn't give you the same wide range of temps that some of the grills give you, but your are looking for a smoker not a grill. You should get in touch with the SmokinGuitarPlayer and see what he is able to do for you and if your not going to I would be interested in it.
Good Luck and keep us updated.

big matt
03-08-2012, 12:04 PM
Did anyone notice Meat Man slip in that he gets 18 pound packers? Show off!Were cooking a 20#er this weekend..and it looks awesome..going on the MAK again.

Meat Man
03-08-2012, 12:17 PM
MAK Four Star grill. A serious piece of equipment. Ordered it today.
1000 sq. inches, 2 fire pots, 170 to 650 degrees, pellet boss, wi-fi, 8 probes, 2-20 lbs pellet hoppers, expandable up to 6000 sq. inches. solid 304 stainless, and bulit like a tank by MAK grills. The Four Star was the winner of the 2012 Vesta, Heart and Home Show.


http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i372/Wilsonclanslc/adaa369d.jpg

AZScott
03-08-2012, 12:21 PM
Will, that's an awesome smoker!

Meat Man
03-08-2012, 12:39 PM
Thanks Scott, we won't be fighting space anymore.

Muzzlebrake
03-08-2012, 12:57 PM
Looks like a very nice cooker, good luck with it.
What was the deciding factor that made you go with the MAK? I'm not familiar with their products, can you tell me more about the wifi capabilities?

Meat Man
03-08-2012, 04:44 PM
it is going to be a web based app.

GreenDrake
03-08-2012, 06:51 PM
That had to run close to $9k....wow.

SmokinOkie
03-09-2012, 10:36 AM
If you're talking expandability, CS also makes a line of True Charbroilers, in 12", 24", 36" and 48" models. Looks to be similar to the Maxx 4 Star (hopper in the front, multiple pots).

I have a 36" and love it. Can get it HOT and we love grilled foods on it. This style (Maxx or CS) will be pricey, but they are awesome cooking machines.