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Slamdunkpro
02-28-2012, 10:39 AM
Anyone else having trouble signing up for the KCBS Smithfield Rib series? It keeps telling me my member number is invalid.:mad2:

rexbbq
02-28-2012, 10:53 AM
I got an email to signup for the rib challenge through pork in the park, but it said to go to kcbs.us to signup. Where are you signing up?

Slamdunkpro
02-28-2012, 10:58 AM
I got an email to signup for the rib challenge through pork in the park, but it said to go to kcbs.us to signup. Where are you signing up?
Here (http://www.kcbs.us/smithfield.php?id=4)

rexbbq
02-28-2012, 11:01 AM
Yeah, my KCBS number is invalid too.

lcbateman3
02-28-2012, 11:07 AM
Same Problem...

4 smokin butts
02-28-2012, 11:35 AM
tried mine andwifes both invalid

Slamdunkpro
02-28-2012, 11:44 AM
I talked to the KCBS office and they're going to email MMA. Interestingly the only numbers I didn't get an invalid# message on were 1, 2, and 3.

HawgNationBBQ
02-28-2012, 12:51 PM
Mine just went through fine.

BurninTree BBQ
02-28-2012, 01:01 PM
invalid

rexbbq
02-28-2012, 01:01 PM
Mine is still invalid

HawgNationBBQ
02-28-2012, 01:04 PM
I went to the KCBS site and signed in. Under resources you can check your profile. I pulled my number directly from there and had no problem.

Slamdunkpro
02-28-2012, 01:10 PM
I went to the KCBS site and signed in. Under resources you can check your profile. I pulled my number directly from there and had no problem.

Just tried that - still invalid

Mike - CSBBBQ
02-28-2012, 01:32 PM
Just tried and it worked :-P

rexbbq
02-28-2012, 01:33 PM
Maybe the site just hates my member number. Still not working.

Jorge
02-28-2012, 01:38 PM
It's being looked into now. Thank you for making the issue known.

Jorge
02-28-2012, 02:53 PM
This program was not intended to be exclusive to KCBS members, and the requirement for a valid membership # has been removed.

Pig Headed
02-28-2012, 03:02 PM
I did mine yesterday, no problem.

Scottie
02-28-2012, 03:07 PM
Man is it nice having a geek on the BOD.... :grin:

Slamdunkpro
02-28-2012, 04:13 PM
Man is it nice having a geek on the BOD.... :grin:
So true.:clap:

Workes now but still wants a KCBS#. Whatever, I'm in!

Mike - CSBBBQ
02-28-2012, 05:16 PM
This program was not intended to be exclusive to KCBS members, and the requirement for a valid membership # has been removed.


May I stir the pot and ask why not?

Tarheel
02-28-2012, 05:25 PM
Hey guys,

I have been told that you do not have to be a member to sign up for this series. Hogfest is part of the series as well and you will have to sign up for each contest individually that you are competing in. This is to ensure record keeping and the correct number of ribs are available at each contest.

If anyone has a problem signing up contact the KCBS office and if for some reason they say you have to be a member please let me know. Also remember there are two days left on the Early Early bird discount for Hogfest when cooking both events. Dont miss it!!

Roy

Tarheel
02-28-2012, 05:29 PM
May I stir the pot and ask why not?

This is one that should be open to everyone. I have several teams that are not members of the KCBS that attend Hogfest and I want all teams to be able to partisipate in this event if they want.

Roy

Slamdunkpro
02-28-2012, 05:43 PM
Not only is KCBS membership not required, but according to the rules you don't have to turn in Smithfield ribs.:confused:

SmokinGuitarPlayer
02-28-2012, 06:40 PM
Mine worked first try. See you in Salisbury

ModelMaker
02-28-2012, 07:36 PM
Didn't Smithfield give our beloved Paula Dean diabetes?
Ed

Sauced!
02-28-2012, 07:46 PM
Not only is KCBS membership not required, but according to the rules you don't have to turn in Smithfield ribs.:confused:

Even better. I normally do spares and I suspect we will get baby backs as part of this series. That will be great if we can turn in whatever we want.

HoDeDo
02-28-2012, 09:33 PM
And if anyone needs a pork in the park entry, see me! I have one goin' cheap! :)

K-Train
02-29-2012, 09:30 AM
Been fixed. I was able to register today. Thanks

Scottie
02-29-2012, 09:58 AM
This is one that should be open to everyone. I have several teams that are not members of the KCBS that attend Hogfest and I want all teams to be able to partisipate in this event if they want.

Roy


Here is my thinking, and it didn't start with Smith field... it started with Rancher Reserve. These 'contests' should only be open to KCBS members. Its OUR marketing company that is seccuring the sponsors and promoting this amongst the KCBS community (internet). Once again we should let nonmembers get the same benefit as paying members? I call BS. Doesn't mean teams can't sign up for your contest Roy, just shouldn't get the same benefits as KCBS members.

Jorge
02-29-2012, 11:41 AM
Here is my thinking, and it didn't start with Smith field... it started with Rancher Reserve. These 'contests' should only be open to KCBS members. Its OUR marketing company that is seccuring the sponsors and promoting this amongst the KCBS community (internet). Once again we should let nonmembers get the same benefit as paying members? I call BS. Doesn't mean teams can't sign up for your contest Roy, just shouldn't get the same benefits as KCBS members.

I think I'll start calling you "GC"...."Gas Can":razz:

Mike - CSBBBQ
02-29-2012, 12:59 PM
Here is my thinking, and it didn't start with Smith field... it started with Rancher Reserve. These 'contests' should only be open to KCBS members. Its OUR marketing company that is seccuring the sponsors and promoting this amongst the KCBS community (internet). Once again we should let nonmembers get the same benefit as paying members? I call BS. Doesn't mean teams can't sign up for your contest Roy, just shouldn't get the same benefits as KCBS members.


Kinda what I was thinking and it may get a few more teams to join.

Scottie
02-29-2012, 02:31 PM
I think I'll start calling you "GC"...."Gas Can":razz:


It does have a nice ring to it....

Heck I don't know which BOD approved it. I just pulled out a shot gun for a bigger pattern....:icon_shy

I will state this wasn't a slam on the BOD. Just my thoughts as a lifetime member of KCBS, I'd rather get some benefits that others don't pay for. I know non-KCBS members don't come tribute to MMA's bottom line, so why get same benefits...

I do appreciate the response though Jorge. At least I know someone is reading :thumb:it....

Tarheel
02-29-2012, 02:50 PM
Kinda what I was thinking and it may get a few more teams to join.

Mike, & Scottie,
The ultimate decission with all of these extra series is with the sponsor, if I am a sponsor like Smithfield I want as many teams as possible involved in this. That equates to more return on there investment. It is not our marketing dollars ,it is the sponsor paying for it. KCBS is getting the benifit of the sponsors willingness to get involved with there advertizing money.

As an orginizer I want every team at my event to be afforded the chance to partisipate, excluding any of them sheads a bad light on my contest. Not to mention that is one more thing I would have to track.

Things like the sams club where the KCBS is taking a bigger role in should be member only.

Pig Headed
02-29-2012, 03:57 PM
And if anyone needs a pork in the park entry, see me! I have one goin' cheap! :)

I'll take it. PM me with details please.

Scottie
02-29-2012, 06:40 PM
I hear ya Roy.

dmprantz
02-29-2012, 07:06 PM
Non members do contribute. Entering comps requires sanctioning. The more teams, the more reps. For every team there needs to be a judge. For every six teams there needs to be a table captain. There should also be alt judges on stand-by proportional to the number of teams. Each of those represents a cbj and/or tc class tuition as well as current kcbs membership. Big picture guys.

Mike - CSBBBQ
02-29-2012, 08:32 PM
Non members do contribute. Entering comps requires sanctioning. The more teams, the more reps. For every team there needs to be a judge. For every six teams there needs to be a table captain. There should also be alt judges on stand-by proportional to the number of teams. Each of those represents a cbj and/or tc class tuition as well as current kcbs membership. Big picture guys.

You are correct. Guess I'm just always looking to improve the benefits for the membership.

Scottie
02-29-2012, 09:29 PM
Why else would we pay dues? If we can do just as much as a non-member, what benefit do we have? I dintvthink we get a discount on Tabasco anymore..... ;)

dmprantz
02-29-2012, 09:30 PM
I think having reasons to be a member is a good thing, and I'm not even arguing that this should be open to non-members. My only point was that just because you aren't a member doesn't meant that you don't help may Mike McCloud's Salary.

dmp

Tarheel
02-29-2012, 09:34 PM
I hear ya Roy.

Come on then and jump in, double the fun, double the money, double the points.:mrgreen:

I will put you in a good spot with good power and water.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
03-01-2012, 09:12 AM
Non members do contribute. Entering comps requires sanctioning. The more teams, the more reps. For every team there needs to be a judge. For every six teams there needs to be a table captain. There should also be alt judges on stand-by proportional to the number of teams. Each of those represents a cbj and/or tc class tuition as well as current kcbs membership. Big picture guys.

just thinking out loud. if there are no members is there a need for an organizationan and with out benifits ( whether they are for charity or personal gain) why be a member?

make any sense? I struggle with the question of "why buy the cow when I can milk it for free" every time I get a renewal request.

dmprantz
03-01-2012, 09:45 AM
if there are no members is there a need for an organizationan and with out benifits...why be a member?


I think there is a very big question here which has been asked several times and still needs to be answered: What is the "business" of the KCBS? Before you answer, look at a parallel: What is the "business" of your local gas utility company? They provide natural gas to your home or business and charge you for it. Are they in the business of being plumbers? Generally no, though they may have a few on hand for customers who don't have their own plumber. Are they in the business of HVAC and appliance sales, installation, and service? Again, no, though some such companies do participate in those services to supplement the main line business. My main point is that they may do things "on the side," but the companies' main business is what they do and brings in their income even if there are side businesses available.

So I return to the KCBS. What is their main "business?" It is sanctioning BBQ competitions. Part of that is providing a rules, juding, and scoring system to the competition, and part is providing a program for training and certifying judges to go along with that system. As a NPO, they should be able to pay their bills and stay afloat through that main business from sanctioning fees, CBJ/TC training fees, and CBJ/TC membership dues.

So the question comes up constantly, should I as a team pay a membership fee to be in the KCBS? Is the KCBS in the business of providing me with a service? I would say "no" they are not, because they provide a service to the contest organizer, and I already pay the contest organizer. Do they provide a service to CBJs and TCs? Yes, but they pay the KCBS to receive that service and then volunteer their time to the organizer. It all comes down to a constantly battled question of should I join KCBS or not as a team? Does the KCBS provide me with anything for that membership, or am I paying for what the KCBS provides me by entering a compeition and paying the entry fee? The extra bennefits are nice, but they are a side issue really. Just because you wanted to support your local gas company overpaid to buy your heater from them, doesn't mean I should feel obligated to do the same. What are they going to provide me for the extra money, especially in this economy?

All this said, I think there is a very good reason for cooks to join the KCBS should they choose, and it has nothing to do with gaining bennefit from the KCBS as some have stated: Because of how the CBJ/TC program is setup, they must be current members to receive their bennefits, and then they have the right to vote and be heard. Cooks can receive their bennefit without paying, but then don't get a vote. In order to prevent the KCBS from being run completely by judges and organizers (Yes, I think that would be a bad thing), cooks should be members so that their voices can be heard. That's my opinion, but I reserve the right to change it.

Here's the thing though, this is moot in the context of my post. All I was trying to say is that even if you aren't a member that doesn't mean that your entry into a comp doesn't help fill the coffers of the KCBS and MMA. Argue the rest until the cows come home, but I don't think you can refute that statement.

Thanks,

dmp

Wrench_H
03-01-2012, 11:52 AM
When signing up, it mentions a $500 rebate for a case of meat will be sent to you. Has anyone received this or know any further info about it?

Tarheel
03-01-2012, 05:59 PM
When signing up, it mentions a $500 rebate for a case of meat will be sent to you. Has anyone received this or know any further info about it?

I am not sure about that one, I am checking on it, it almost looks like a typo.

BasicPatrick
03-01-2012, 10:55 PM
I wen to sign up but there are no comps in New England on the list...wait a minute...there are no New England comps on any of the partner programs. Why again did I pay for my membership???